Ashes / Proteas vs India

[OomStruisbaai]

Disappointing last day. Credit to Bavuma who lead by example. Now to get over the mental block.

[FalseBayFC]

That fizzled out rather tamely. The Indian pacers bowled well. Our guys haven't played cricket since June and the batting showed that.

[FalseBayFC]

That fizzled out rather tamely. The Indian pacers bowled well. Our guys haven't played cricket since June and the batting showed that.

[Sards]

Not sure that any technique will be able to withstand this pitch.

Both sides had to play on it. That's no excuse.

Our national cricket is quite pathetic.

Kids don't bother. Don't blame them.

Not sure re the cricketers coming through provincially but it's going to take at least a decade to become a really good side again with the talent I have seen coming through just here in die kaap. Unless we lose all these kids to overseas teams

[OomStruisbaai]

Not sure that any technique will be able to withstand this pitch.

Both sides had to play on it. That's no excuse.

Our national cricket is quite pathetic.

Kids don't bother. Don't blame them.

Not sure re the cricketers coming through provincially but it's going to take at least a decade to become a really good side again with the talent I have seen coming through just here in die kaap. Unless we lose all these kids to overseas teams

We lost a generation because of Kolpak. Well that ended so we will hopefull get some experience players back.

I am hugely impress with Jansen. South Africa always have the cricket structures to produce good cricket talent.

[Big Nipper]

Not sure that any technique will be able to withstand this pitch.

Both sides had to play on it. That's no excuse.

Our national cricket is quite pathetic.

Kids don't bother. Don't blame them.

Not sure re the cricketers coming through provincially but it's going to take at least a decade to become a really good side again with the talent I have seen coming through just here in die kaap. Unless we lose all these kids to overseas teams

We lost a generation because of Kolpak. Well that ended so we will hopefull get some experience players back.

I am hugely impress with Jansen. South Africa always have the cricket structures to produce good cricket talent.

What does Sards know about cricket anyway. We had a jittery start, and have played hardly any tests this year. By the end of the test we showed we can compete and beat the Indians. I predict a good win in the next test. Sards should just rather STFU on this thread, his trolling is pathetic

[Sards]

Both sides had to play on it. That's no excuse.

Our national cricket is quite pathetic.

Kids don't bother. Don't blame them.

Not sure re the cricketers coming through provincially but it's going to take at least a decade to become a really good side again with the talent I have seen coming through just here in die kaap. Unless we lose all these kids to overseas teams

We lost a generation because of Kolpak. Well that ended so we will hopefull get some experience players back.

I am hugely impress with Jansen. South Africa always have the cricket structures to produce good cricket talent.

What does Sards know about cricket anyway. We had a jittery start, and have played hardly any tests this year. By the end of the test we showed we can compete and beat the Indians. I predict a good win in the next test. Sards should just rather STFU on this thread, his trolling is pathetic

Dude. I am a very committed parent and have 2 kids that play and a friend of my eldest who I support and get to all the tournaments we get invited to. My wife scores for the team. I stand in as manager when the manager is not available. For any of the age groups. I go to every match every weekend. Split between both boys. Including umpire duty which I try avoid because of my poor eyesight. I understand every format from 6 a side to 5 day although we don't play 5 day

[Big Nipper]

Watching 12yr olds play mini cricket does not make you an expert on cricket.

[Sards]

Watching 12yr olds play mini cricket does not make you an expert on cricket.

I have watched both from KFC mini cricket right through to now junior club cricket. I think I understand the basics quite well thank you. Including managing a team, team selection and match reports. I also score if my wife and noone else is available. Although I try avoid it, the print on the scoresheets is tiny and vague as vok and trying to pair batsman and bowler to the ball faced is not fun. Normally I keep clues like , yellow shoes or blue socks etc. .

A little more than you would understand on your couch.
Over to you for your superior experience history.

I managed the under 10s and 11s this season in their first matches this past season until we appointed a permanent manager. I prefer to be free to watch without worrying about the match from the management perspective.

Thanks to all the boys and parents that made the trek out to the Southern Suburbs. The result of this match was never going to be as important as the lessons learnt. This was the first game the team played together so it was an opportunity to see what the kids strengths are and what they need to work on. Gabriel took the captaincy for this game and won the toss and elected to field. Far too many extras. I feel the boys have now realized how important it is to keep the bowling accurate and minimize the wides and no balls. What we did see was some good bowling from Norman, Divan , Gabriel and Zak. Definitely an area to build on. For the batting there is a lot of work to be done and a few unlucky outs. Tristan shone here today. Some great shots. For the fielding Zak was outstanding. And took the match ball because of his bowling, fielding and for his tied second highest score shared with Caleb. I think the boys know each other after this match and the team can build from this.

...my first match report from under 11s. The kid Gabriel is now the team captain and Tristan scored runs consistently through the season.
In the under 10s I also identified the captain. Who is still captain to this day.

[handyman]

Not sure that any technique will be able to withstand this pitch.

Both sides had to play on it. That's no excuse.

Our national cricket is quite pathetic.

Kids don't bother. Don't blame them.

Not sure re the cricketers coming through provincially but it's going to take at least a decade to become a really good side again with the talent I have seen coming through just here in die kaap. Unless we lose all these kids to overseas teams

Precisely why I posted that the first morning where India scored 80 odd without loss was the big difference.

[Sandstorm]

Proteas looked rusty, but had some good sessions and the bowlers can only keep improving.
Not delighted with the batting line-up, especially having Maharaj in there on pitches that don't turn. Rather put another batsman in.
Also think we need more pace than Mulder can produce.

De Kock heads off to see his baby born, so likely Verreynne in. Rinky doesn't like him, so I hope he goes really well.

[OomStruisbaai]

This is not a good Indian side. Surely we can take them. Prepare a mamba and win the toss.

[Sandstorm]

This is not a good Indian side.

I agree. It's a bloody good Indian side.

Surely we can take them.

If we play out of our skins, probably.

Prepare a mamba

In 3 days? No chance.

Besides, their quicks are better than ours at the moment; especially without Nortje

and win the toss.

Yes please

[FalseBayFC]

Proteas looked rusty, but had some good sessions and the bowlers can only keep improving.
Not delighted with the batting line-up, especially having Maharaj in there on pitches that don't turn. Rather put another batsman in.
Also think we need more pace than Mulder can produce.

De Kock heads off to see his baby born, so likely Verreynne in. Rinky doesn't like him, so I hope he goes really well.

Seems QDK has announced his retirement from all Test cricket with immediate effect. Going the route of ABDV.

[Sards]

Proteas looked rusty, but had some good sessions and the bowlers can only keep improving.
Not delighted with the batting line-up, especially having Maharaj in there on pitches that don't turn. Rather put another batsman in.
Also think we need more pace than Mulder can produce.

De Kock heads off to see his baby born, so likely Verreynne in. Rinky doesn't like him, so I hope he goes really well.

Seems QDK has announced his retirement from all Test cricket with immediate effect. Going the route of ABDV.

Shit show at the Proteas

[FalseBayFC]

[OomStruisbaai]

Proteas looked rusty, but had some good sessions and the bowlers can only keep improving.
Not delighted with the batting line-up, especially having Maharaj in there on pitches that don't turn. Rather put another batsman in.
Also think we need more pace than Mulder can produce.

De Kock heads off to see his baby born, so likely Verreynne in. Rinky doesn't like him, so I hope he goes really well.

Seems QDK has announced his retirement from all Test cricket with immediate effect. Going the route of ABDV.

Not surprised at all. He should have done this during the T20 WC.

[Enzedder]

Can us Kiwis join the big boys on this thread for our little hitabout against Bangladesh starting tomorrow?

[Insane_Homer]

de Kock GONE!

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/quin ... ts-1294885

Quinton de Kock has announced a sudden retirement from Test cricket with immediate effect "to spend more time with his growing family". de Kock was due to miss the second and third Tests against India on paternity leave but has decided to step away from the longest format entirely. He remains available to play white-ball cricket for South Africa.

[Sandstorm]

Can us Kiwis join the big boys on this thread for our little hitabout against Bangladesh starting tomorrow?

Of course. Welcome Brother.

[Sandstorm]

de Kock GONE!

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/quin ... ts-1294885

Quinton de Kock has announced a sudden retirement from Test cricket with immediate effect "to spend more time with his growing family". de Kock was due to miss the second and third Tests against India on paternity leave but has decided to step away from the longest format entirely. He remains available to play white-ball cricket for South Africa.

Don’t forget his back is fucked, playing keeper for nearly 2 days straight won’t help that.

[OomStruisbaai]

Can us Kiwis join the big boys on this thread for our little hitabout against Bangladesh starting tomorrow?

Your welcome. The mockers hate us NPR cricket supporters. Maybe the Black Caps can change this.

[Big Nipper]

I think QdK focusing on white ball cricket is the best for our chances at the next World Cup. We have the immensely talented Ryan Rickleton who is a great keeper too. He has been in sublime form in the 4 day format for 2 years. Hopefully he steps up. There is no use having De Kock trundling in at 6 or 7, with a game to save, and having him skipping down the track at Siraj after 2 balls. Need a guy willing to guts it out and spend sessions out there

[Sards]

When you are having major issues it is always good to have a clean out and give more ambitious youngsters a chance. Otherwise they have their talent suppressed for years. I don't watch local cricket as I don't have time. There must be some kids knocking hard on the door and hungry

[OomStruisbaai]

When you are having major issues it is always good to have a clean out and give more ambitious youngsters a chance. Otherwise they have their talent suppressed for years. I don't watch local cricket as I don't have time. There must be some kids knocking hard on the door and hungry

Our team have only youngsters. Missing experience players like Faf, AB de Villiers. QdK is a vokken big loss. He is like AB a match winner.

[Sards]

When you are having major issues it is always good to have a clean out and give more ambitious youngsters a chance. Otherwise they have their talent suppressed for years. I don't watch local cricket as I don't have time. There must be some kids knocking hard on the door and hungry

Our team have only youngsters. Missing experience players like Faf, AB de Villiers. QdK is a vokken big loss. He is like AB a match winner.

This is what I never understood. The lack of willingness to take chances. Who knows. Sometimes a step up from domestic to international defines a player.

[handyman]

When you are having major issues it is always good to have a clean out and give more ambitious youngsters a chance. Otherwise they have their talent suppressed for years. I don't watch local cricket as I don't have time. There must be some kids knocking hard on the door and hungry

Our team have only youngsters. Missing experience players like Faf, AB de Villiers. QdK is a vokken big loss. He is like AB a match winner.

This is what I never understood. The lack of willingness to take chances. Who knows. Sometimes a step up from domestic to international defines a player.

The level of play at our domestic level is nowhere near that of England or Australia. We can more often than not put a decent 11 out, but our depth is not great.

We're at a low point now and we need a few youngsters to come through fast. Sitting with quite a few journeymen.

[Sards]

Our team have only youngsters. Missing experience players like Faf, AB de Villiers. QdK is a vokken big loss. He is like AB a match winner.

This is what I never understood. The lack of willingness to take chances. Who knows. Sometimes a step up from domestic to international defines a player.

The level of play at our domestic level is nowhere near that of England or Australia. We can more often than not put a decent 11 out, but our depth is not great.

We're at a low point now and we need a few youngsters to come through fast. Sitting with quite a few journeymen.

I've seen it often enough. When you are constantly playing weak opposition your game is off. Some players prefer the ball coming onto them faster. And more accurately. I have noticed with my youngest he struggles against poor bowling but put him against older more accurate bowling and he thrives. I am sure it's the same with Older kids

[tabascoboy]

Wow, the full extent of England's shiteness in test cricket this year

England cricket teams have become accustomed to being forcefully disintegrated by a tour of Australia.

For the fifth time in six tours, they have lost the urn at the earliest available opportunity, this time in record-breakingly swift fashion.

It took just 852.3 overs, the smallest quantity of cricket ever required for Australia to win the Ashes at home after a third Test lasting just 180 overs and four balls - also making this the earliest any team has ever lost a five-Test series.

England supporters of a statistically sensitive disposition should look away now, as I attempt to put numerical perspective on a savage series defeat at the end of a year of startling decline...

No team has ever lost more Tests in a calendar year than the nine defeats suffered by England in 2021.
England have been bowled out for under 150 a joint-record eight times this year.
England batters reached 25 runs 91 times in 2021. Root converted 10 of his 18 into half-centuries, including six three-figure scores. The rest made 22 fifties from 73 scores of 25, with just one hundred - Burns against New Zealand.
England still have only two players who have posted half-centuries in this Ashes.
Only three of England's 15 Tests this year did not feature a duck by one of their openers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59825697

But I'm sure that structuring our domestic season almost exclusively around the shortest forms of the game has nothing to do with it...

[FalseBayFC]

Our team have only youngsters. Missing experience players like Faf, AB de Villiers. QdK is a vokken big loss. He is like AB a match winner.

This is what I never understood. The lack of willingness to take chances. Who knows. Sometimes a step up from domestic to international defines a player.

The level of play at our domestic level is nowhere near that of England or Australia. We can more often than not put a decent 11 out, but our depth is not great.

We're at a low point now and we need a few youngsters to come through fast. Sitting with quite a few journeymen.

The lure of the IPL and the other T20 pro leagues are a new reality the Proteas have to deal with. And like it or not the quotas are always going to complicate our selections a bit.

We are doing nicely on the bowling front with a good variety of spin and some good pace prospects. One of Verreyne or Rickelton should come good for the wicket keeping spot for the foreseeable future. Elgar will need to be replaced eventually but Markram is a proven long term prospect. It would be great if Keegan P comes good, he certainly looks to have the goods.

Rebuilding a batting lineup is no easy task and we desperately need Markram in particular to go from a 40 average player to a 50 average bat. Once there is a batsman to anchor the innings it takes the pressure of noobs and allows others to play themselves into form.

[OomStruisbaai]

Another x Saffer Conway scoring a ton for the Black Caps.

[OomStruisbaai]

PROTEAS ODI SQUAD VS INDIA

Temba Bavuma (captain, Imperial Lions), Keshav Maharaj (vice-captain, Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Quinton de Kock (wicketkeeper, Momentum Multiply Titans), Zubayr Hamza (Six Gun Grill Western Province), Marco Jansen (Gbets Warriors), Janneman Malan (Gbets Paarl Rocks), Sisanda Magala (Imperial Lions), Aiden Markram (Momentum Multiply Titans), David Miller (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Lungi Ngidi (Momentum Multiply Titans), Wayne Parnell (Six Gun Grill Western Province), Andile Phehlukwayo (Hollywoodbets Dolphins), Dwaine Pretorius (North West Dragons), Kagiso Rabada (Imperial Lions), Tabraiz Shamsi (Momentum Multiply Titans), Rassie van der Dussen (Imperial Lions), Kyle Verreynne (Six Gun Grill Western Province).

Betway ODI series vs India schedule

19 January 22 1st Betway ODI vs India Eurolux Boland Park, Paarl

21 January 22 2nd Betway ODI vs India Eurolux Boland Park, Paarl

23 January 22 3rd Betway ODI vs India Six Gun Grill Newlands, Cape Town

[FalseBayFC]

David Miller needs to voetsek. I've defended him in the past but he just hasn't delivered.

[Big Nipper]

Jesus when last did we win a fucking toss against India

[FalseBayFC]

Interesting XI. Seems Jansen and Mulder will be competing for the all rounder slot. I'm OK with that. Its healthy for the team. Having Jansen batting at 7 is a little scary though.

[handyman]

Interesting XI. Seems Jansen and Mulder will be competing for the all rounder slot. I'm OK with that. Its healthy for the team. Having Jansen batting at 7 is a little scary though.

Yeah, I'm worried about our batting line up. Let's hope the bowlers do the job upfront to take some pressure off.

Regarding the allrounder slot, Jansen is still a pup, but I love the variation that he adds to the bowling line up. Didn't know he was that comfortable with the bat.

[Insane_Homer]

Olivier back, shyte first over.

[FalseBayFC]

We're missing Nortje's 150km/h stuff. It keeps batsmen on their toes. Olivier bowling in the 120km/h range.

[handyman]

We're missing Nortje's 150km/h stuff. It keeps batsmen on their toes. Olivier bowling in the 120km/h range.

Can't agree more. You just cannot relax against Nortje. I believe he should also be partly credited for other bowlers wickets. Love his heart, just keep running in hard and bowling as fast as he can all day long.

[FalseBayFC]

KG starting to find a good line and length here.