Calcutta Cup match thread

[tc27]

England have had a few home refs recently but jeez.

[OomStruisbaai]

Schoooemmmann!

[C69]

Why take Smith off?

[FalseBayFC]

Jeez England fucked that one.

[BnM]

Even with run of play we didn't deserve it with all the errors. Not sure what we were playing at today. Well done Scotland.

[Paddington Bear]

Hmm. Think we won three pens at those scrums at the end but there we are. Better team won, Scotland’s defence was excellent. England’s attack clueless. Enjoy Scots

[Ymx]

Ha ha. Good old Benny boy didn’t want it to finish on scrum pen.

[Big D]

Some didn't want Graham picked for this game

He was the real motm IMO. Set up the try, held up the maul and a big turnover there.

Big critic of MFagerson but he was good today.

[Flockwitt]

Well played Scotland

[Tichtheid]

Never in doubt really

[TheFrog]

O'Keefe can't referee a scrum. Why are England trying to get the penalty here?

Because their coach took the only player off, capable of scoring from open play ?

QED !

England disintegrated the way French teams tend to do under pressure. Amazing.

[Crash669]

Congratulations Scotland.

[Ymx]

Eddie taking Marcus Smith off

[convoluted]

Just how did Scotland do that???

Of all the football codes, only Rugby can conjure up the twists and turns we saw in that last 15 minutes.

[dkm57]

FOCK YEAH!!!

[JM2K6]

Congrats Scotland.

I have been awake since 5:30 nursing a hangover from 9 hours of drinking, and started the day 230 miles & four trains away. That was not a kind match for me to watch. Bizarre game but no complaints about the result, definitely a rearguard action but took your chances and didn't lose your heads. Despite the England pack being miles on top in open play and at the maul, Scotland did enough at the lineout and capitalised on England's many errors and disciplinary lapses. The team looked like they had clearer heads and trusted a gameplan they believed would win.

Disappointed that Smith wasn't great today but there were a lot of weird decisions being made by England players and especially by Eddie Jones. Time for a rant on the England rugby thread.

[Blackmac]

Hmm. Think we won three pens at those scrums at the end but there we are. Better team won, Scotland’s defence was excellent. England’s attack clueless. Enjoy Scots

Nah, in the second one Schoeman clearly got the upper hand.

[Big D]

Ref was honking (clear squint through before England try and probably 2 penalties to 1 penalty at that last scrums being two obvious areas), game wasn't great but Scotland would normally lose them.

[TheFrog]

When is the last time England beat Scotland?

[Yr Alban]

Thank feck for that. Was watching the score on Twitter, will watch the actual game later.

[Big D]

Congrats Scotland.

I have been awake since 5:30 nursing a hangover from 9 hours of drinking, and started the day 230 miles & four trains away. That was not a kind match for me to watch. Bizarre game but no complaints about the result, definitely a rearguard action but took your chances and didn't lose your heads. Despite the England pack being miles on top in open play and at the maul, Scotland did enough at the lineout and capitalised on England's many errors and disciplinary lapses. The team looked like they had clearer heads and trusted a gameplan they believed would win.

Disappointed that Smith wasn't great today but there were a lot of weird decisions being made by England players and especially by Eddie Jones. Time for a rant on the England rugby thread.

Cheers pal. Been sick this week, 8 year old caught covid and now I have it so been a long week. This is a question bit of sunshine at the end of the week.

We were just a bit more clinical.

[sockwithaticket]

When is the last time England beat Scotland?

Distressingly long ago.

[Big D]

When is the last time England beat Scotland?

Two years ago.

[Blackmac]

Some didn't want Graham picked for this game

He was the real motm IMO. Set up the try, held up the maul and a big turnover there.

Big critic of MFagerson but he was good today.

Yeah Graham was excellent and Matt was by far the best of the backrow. I know Watson made his tackles but he was well off the breakdown pace.
Almost embarrassed to win that but as usual we did our best to fuck it up in the final 5 minutes.

[Yr Alban]

When is the last time England beat Scotland?

Last time out at MF. But that’s their only win in the last 5.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

Christ, not sure how we won that. England fans should be livid.

[Big D]

Some didn't want Graham picked for this game

He was the real motm IMO. Set up the try, held up the maul and a big turnover there.

Big critic of MFagerson but he was good today.

Yeah Graham was excellent and Matt was by far the best of the backrow. I know Watson made his tackles but he was well off the breakdown pace.
Almost embarrassed to win that but as usual we did our best to fuck it up in the final 5 minutes.

I think in hindsight v that backrow we should be brave and pick Darge over Ritchie. That's a nippy back row that England had out.

[TheFrog]

Strange thing is that you can't even say that lack of experience is the reason England lost as things went pear shaped when Eddie brought the older heads on.

Amish Watson almost killed it for Scotland though...

[PCPhil]

Wish an interview question was. “So Eddie, 7 points ahead and dominating. Then you made the substitution to change the play of the team and then lost by 7. What do you think was the momentum swing in the match? ……….twat”

[TheFrog]

Cowan-Dickie must be a very lonely man now.

[Big D]

Thr unseen factor in that game was the pressure Scotland and the fans put on themselves "now or never" and all that bollocks.

Will be under the same pressure next week in Cardiff. I expect it to catch up with us at somepoint.

[BnM]

Livid maybe but not because we lost it's because how.

[NeilOJism]

Shamelessly cross-posted from t’other place:

Yep, congrats sweeties (think I’ll stick with typo!(

HTF did we lose that??

Some promising signs from the lads, though - we need some midfield heft, a SpaceX jobbie strapped to Ben Youngs, Lawes and Launchbug back (and an uncrocked and in-form Sam Underhill) and Adam R in the 23.

With the above and some time together I’m quietly excited for the future.

I’m also pissed, so...

Wish I was in Edinburgh tonight!

But, above all - thanks, jocks, I enjoyed that - and hearty congratulations!

[tc27]

Happy to give a PT at in the last ten based on an assumption of the players intent but bottle a clear scrum pen at 79 how many times eg?


Anyroad well-done Scotland.

[PCPhil]

Yeah, well done Jocks.

[JM2K6]

Ref was honking (clear squint through before England try and probably 2 penalties to 1 penalty at that last scrums being two obvious areas), game wasn't great but Scotland would normally lose them.

Honestly he missed two neck rolls on Curry before he got round to that final one, and two high tackles on Simmonds by Fagerson, and there was one passage where Curry won a penalty after the ref had missed like 4 offences (including a not straight!) - so there were a few things that went against us but probably most of them were fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. He was desperate not to make a decision at that final scrum and had previously missed the Scottish player diving onto a knocked-on ball from miles offside, but then had also missed that the penalty he gave to Stuart should've been the other way round. Very strange behaviour in stoppage time with the scrums. Bit chickenshit IMO.

Nothing I can point to and say "ah, that's changed the result". Some things he was super hot on. Some things he just didn't seem able to pick up at all. Definitely wasn't the reason why it was 20-17 to Scotland in the last minute. Even if we'd gotten a penalty at the scrum, we were a mess.

[JM2K6]

Congrats Scotland.

I have been awake since 5:30 nursing a hangover from 9 hours of drinking, and started the day 230 miles & four trains away. That was not a kind match for me to watch. Bizarre game but no complaints about the result, definitely a rearguard action but took your chances and didn't lose your heads. Despite the England pack being miles on top in open play and at the maul, Scotland did enough at the lineout and capitalised on England's many errors and disciplinary lapses. The team looked like they had clearer heads and trusted a gameplan they believed would win.

Disappointed that Smith wasn't great today but there were a lot of weird decisions being made by England players and especially by Eddie Jones. Time for a rant on the England rugby thread.

Cheers pal. Been sick this week, 8 year old caught covid and now I have it so been a long week. This is a question bit of sunshine at the end of the week.

We were just a bit more clinical.

More clinical, a bit smarter, and a bit cooler under pressure. Hope the bug isn't too bad for you. Enjoy the weekend!

[Tichtheid]

Congrats Scotland.

I have been awake since 5:30 nursing a hangover from 9 hours of drinking, and started the day 230 miles & four trains away. That was not a kind match for me to watch. Bizarre game but no complaints about the result, definitely a rearguard action but took your chances and didn't lose your heads. Despite the England pack being miles on top in open play and at the maul, Scotland did enough at the lineout and capitalised on England's many errors and disciplinary lapses. The team looked like they had clearer heads and trusted a gameplan they believed would win.

Disappointed that Smith wasn't great today but there were a lot of weird decisions being made by England players and especially by Eddie Jones. Time for a rant on the England rugby thread.

*tips hat*

I don't think we'd have many complaints if the result had gone the other way tbh

[Blackmac]

Happy to give a PT at in the last ten based on an assumption of the players intent but bottle a clear scrum pen at 79 how many times eg?


Anyroad well-done Scotland.

It wasn't that clear. The overhead shot showed Schoeman getting well on top and starting the turn.

Plus he missed the blatant squint line out that led to your try

[petej]

Livid maybe but not because we lost it's because how.

Would you be more or less livid after a game in which Farrell kicked the ball away all game we didn't try to play at all and we still lost.