Heineken Champions/Challenge Cup 2022 Semi-Finals Weekend

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Bollox
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For the life of me I don't understand why Lowe shaves the parts of his head he does while letting the rest grow super long.

Desperately want Toulouse to get some time on the ball and put Leinster under stress
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All too easy, this is going to get ugly for Toulouse.
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Sexton not doing badly for a guy who's getting a bus pass at the end of the season
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Close game then? :eh:
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Jelonch :sick:

It's a measure of how much a mismatch this is viewed as in that the FR picks are 96% for Leinster by 10+. The sort of margin you'd see for Eng v Ita.
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Bullshit call that
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ASMO wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 2:38 pmBullshit call that
Yup. You will see that at 40 breakdowns a game.

Anyway, knew this would be a bumming hence wasn't bothered about getting back in time to see it. One of those games where if I'd been offered a free ticket and it was down the road, I would have passed!
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Thank you.
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Thanks but how do you get passed all the site when on a phone. Unusable right now :-( and I fucking paid for this game!
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freddie wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 2:42 pm
Thanks but how do you get passed all the site when on a phone. Unusable right now :-( and I fucking paid for this game!
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No sign of La Soule or Frog to comment on Leinster's ruck speed? Commentary calling it "ridiculous" with average being under a second. Where are Jelonch, Cros and Elstadt in slowing this down? Bearing in mind that Baille, Marchand and Dupont are among the best, non back rowers at turnovers in world rugby.
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Toulouse offering zero threat, 1 out rugby, Leinster can defend that all day without breaking sweat
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Should the trip in of Ntamack been a penalty and maybe yellow?
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Marylandolorian wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:13 pm Should the trip in of Ntamack been a penalty and maybe yellow?
Nah, it was just a minor collision when you looked at it real time, & there was no changing of line, or stride
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Where Leinster are very good is when it's on they up the pace and intensity immediately.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:16 pm Where Leinster are very good is when it's on they up the pace and intensity immediately.
they're moving the attacking line, faster than it's possible to move any defense; & if you just line up across the pitch they'll blast thru you
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Toulouse are just a shambles
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That passage of play illustrates perfectly how rubbish Toulouse are, there is absolutely no drive, no energy and dare i say it, no desire
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ASMO wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:26 pm That passage of play illustrates perfectly how rubbish Toulouse are
yeah, secure a turnover with a great tackle, & then go backwards 40m
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Warburton's right that it shouldn't be playing the 9, but that's absolutely a penalty for coming in at the side.
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ASMO wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:26 pm That passage of play illustrates perfectly how rubbish Toulouse are, there is absolutely no drive, no energy and dare i say it, no desire
Now you see why Dupont is under so much pressure. He is sandwiched between a backrow which provides no protection and a FH who provides zero attacking threat and no tactical kicking to relieve pressure. Frankly, I would not give much of a sh*t except most of that ineffective contingent are currently dead cert starters for France.
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Ntamack :lol:

FFS
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The ref don't like Toulouse
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Ntamack :lol:

FFS
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Ntamack :lol:

FFS
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Ntamack has had a shocker, everything he has touched has turned to shit
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ASMO wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:42 pm Ntamack has had a shocker, everything he has touched has turned to shit
He's a luxury you can't afford at this level of the game
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Toulouse have given up "contesting" the breakdown in favour of keeping defenders wide but
a) It just speeds up Leinster ball
b) Errr...... when you are 2 scores down with f**k all on the clock, ceding loads of easy possession to the opposition is not an option
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FM, Ntamack found touch :shock:
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Honestly, that score flatters Toulouse.
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There's a striking difference in accuracy from the teams
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Absolute arse reaming.

WTF was Ntamack doing jogging back for that kick through?
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:51 pm There's a striking difference in accuracy from the teams
You mean one side had it, the other had none
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Toulouse are NOT shit. Leinster are very good.
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ASMO wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:51 pm There's a striking difference in accuracy from the teams
You mean one side had it, the other had none

The mauled try was good, they did well to keep the ball carrier on the park, but apart from that they didn't offer much at all, the first try was an interception in all but name, a lucky run-in.
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PCPhil wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:53 pm Toulouse are NOT shit. Leinster are very good.

That's a fair point, Leinster's defence didn't give them a sniff.
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PCPhil wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:53 pm Toulouse are NOT shit. Leinster are very good.
No, they're not Worcester, but they're not good. Lots of very good players in variable form and looking like they're barely coached.

Leinster are very good.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:56 pm
PCPhil wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:53 pm Toulouse are NOT shit. Leinster are very good.
No, they're not Worcester, but they're not good. Lots of very good players in variable form and looking like they're barely coached.

Leinster are very good.
Yep, the 2022 EC winners
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PCPhil wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 3:53 pm Toulouse are NOT shit. Leinster are very good.
Leinster are largely the Irish national team. Trouble is Toulouse is too much of the French national team: a thing I have a real problem with because in France, pull on a red shirt and you are automatically guaranteed a cap. I hope that Galthie and co watched this and it starts to dawn upon them that some of these players should not be in the French set up.

IN
Dupont, Baille, Marchand, Mauvaka and I'd even consider Ramos in some circumstances as a utility cover.

OUT
Ntamack, Tauzin, Jelonch, Cros (unless you have enough cover around him to do some breakdown work i.e. you set out with someone just for a high tackle rate.. although you already have Woki and Le Roux for than and both can play lock too).
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