Springbokke next 4 years to 2027

[OomStruisbaai]

They'll have to cut that 41 players for the next 3 games tour.

[Sards]

They'll have to cut that 41 players for the next 3 games tour.

Dweba is an easy cut. Herself too.

[OomStruisbaai]

They'll have to cut that 41 players for the next 3 games tour.

Dweba is an easy cut. Herself too.

Ja Hendricks. Cost us the test. Vokken doos.

[OomStruisbaai]

The Springboks returned home on Sunday where they will have a few days off to rest and recuperate after the opening leg of the competition, with Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber’s touring squad set to depart for Australia on Thursday.

[_Os_]

Die game is oor, ons het verloor!

Well I expect this. Losses is good because it grounded you.
To lose against the All Blacks isn't that bad even on Ellispark.

It's obvious that we need to cut out old wood like Elton Jantjies and Jesse Kriel. Duanne Vermeulen and Frans Steyn probably next. We need to bring young blood through.


Our box kick shite plan need to be cut. Tonight the All Blacks waited for this.

The Wallabies is our next test. Will be nice to knock them over.

So players that didn't even play or were immediately injured are cut, but Dweba who did play remains a starting player I guess?

Oom, you've lost it.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ox, Dweba can be cut, tried and failed, ditto Hendricks, just like Coetzee. New ones must be tried.

[Sards]

And.......
Roos cut as tour group finalized.
Poor lad. It's his Sharks background and development

Dweba and Moerat continue earning a bok salary to alleviate the pressure on the Stormers wage bill and get to travel.

[Sards]

They'll have to cut that 41 players for the next 3 games tour.

Dweba is an easy cut. Herself too.

Ja Hendricks. Cost us the test. Vokken doos.

In the last 10 minutes. Ja , vokken doos
2 tries from kak box kicks......Eisch Eisch Eisch

[boere wors]

And.......
Roos cut as tour group finalized.
Poor lad. It's his Sharks background and development

Pains me to say, but Duane is past it. Wiese and Roos should be our 8s. I would have liked to see Roos given another chance at 8 in our 1st choice XV.

[Sards]

And.......
Roos cut as tour group finalized.
Poor lad. It's his Sharks background and development

Pains me to say, but Duane is past it. Wiese and Roos should be our 8s. I would have liked to see Roos given another chance at 8 in our 1st choice XV.

We all love Thor. But he is getting on now.

Ja. I would have preferred Roos.

I see Herschel is included in the squad with Reinach included. I don't get it. 4 scrumhalves. They never get injured. Rather cut the underperforming one and add another wing.

We only have Moodie, Mapimpi, Jesse and Gelant. Jesse is not a wing.

With that squad it's clear they are going to go again with the 6 2 split

[Sards]

Props
Steven Kitshoff (Stormers)
Vincent Koch (Wasps)
Frans Malherbe (Stormers)
Ox Nche (Sharks)
Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92)

Hookers:
Joseph Dweba (Stormers)
Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears)

Locks:
Lood de Jager (Wild Knights)
Eben Etzebeth (Sharks)
Salmaan Moerat (Stormers)

Loose forwards:
Pieter-Steph du Toit (Verblitz)
Siya Kolisi (Sharks)
Elrigh Louw (Bulls)
Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs)
Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers)
Duane Vermeulen (Ulster)

Utility forwards:
Deon Fourie (Stormers)
Franco Mostert (Honda Heat)

Scrumhalves:
Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles)
Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks)
Herschel Jantjies (Stormers)
Cobus Reinach (Montpellier)

Flyhalves:
Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo)
Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers)

Centres:
Lukhanyo Am (Sharks)
Damian de Allende (Wild Knights)
Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins)

Outside Backs:
Canan Moodie (Bulls)
Warrick Gelant (Racing 92)
Willie le Roux (Verblitz)
Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks)

Utility backs:
Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles)
Frans Steyn (Cheetahs)
Damian Willemse (Stormers)

[assfly]

Roos must have done something to piss off JN.

[Sards]

Roos must have done something to piss off JN.

Ja. It looks to me that Rassienaber can't handle X factor players. They want Zombies that tow the line.

Oh BTW Fourie has been included as cover for Hooker......

[OomStruisbaai]

Roos must have done something to piss off JN.

He is still young. He'll get his chance. Thomas Tank has been longer in the squad, he probably done more to piss off JN.

[boere wors]

It would be about time now to start squad development. The goal after RWC2019 was to win the Lions series, which was accomplished. And developing a winning habit, which is being missed. Time to move on.

[ia801310]

Roos must have done something to piss off JN.

He is still young. He'll get his chance. Thomas Tank has been longer in the squad, he probably done more to piss off JN.

At least he is now tied to the Boks

[handyman]

It would be about time now to start squad development. The goal after RWC2019 was to win the Lions series, which was accomplished. And developing a winning habit, which is being missed. Time to move on.

RWC is next year.

[boere wors]

It would be about time now to start squad development. The goal after RWC2019 was to win the Lions series, which was accomplished. And developing a winning habit, which is being missed. Time to move on.

RWC is next year.

Exactly.

[handyman]

It would be about time now to start squad development. The goal after RWC2019 was to win the Lions series, which was accomplished. And developing a winning habit, which is being missed. Time to move on.

RWC is next year.

Exactly.

Too late for that.

[boere wors]

RWC is next year.

Exactly.

Too late for that.

You think we will win anything with the same 23 that played the RWC final, Ox for beast and kwagga for Louw?

[assfly]

Two hookers and four scrumhalves

I get Fourie as a potential replacement, but hasn't he been playing in the loose trio for the last few years?

[boere wors]

Two hookers and four scrumhalves

I get Fourie as a potential replacement, but hasn't he been playing in the loose trio for the last few years?

Doesnt matter. When has Jesse last played wing? Or Damien fullback? Or kwagga blindside? Or trevor loosehead? Or Duane at all?

[Wilson's Toffee]

Rasnaber still have to make space for Goosen, Snyman, and one or two others, before RWC 2023 ....

[OomStruisbaai]

AJ have a nice summary of our loose forwards. Fourie by far our best 6 flanker all season. Kolisi is a luxury in the Bok team.

[handyman]

Exactly.

Too late for that.

You think we will win anything with the same 23 that played the RWC final, Ox for beast and kwagga for Louw?

Sure, we decimated the all blacks with them just last week.

[handyman]

Rasnaber still have to make space for Goosen, Snyman, and one or two others, before RWC 2023 ....

Snyman will make a big difference if fit.

[OomStruisbaai]

Springbok dirt trackers playing against Munster and Bristol

[assfly]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

[boere wors]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

Or until RWC 2023. We are stuck with him.

[FalseBayFC]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

The believers will say we just need to play Francois Steyn and Willie le Roux more. And box kick more. If they had their way they'd resurrect some 90's "yster" like Adrian Richter and we'll be unbeatable.

[Chilli]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

The believers will say we just need to play Francois Steyn and Willie le Roux more. And box kick more. If they had their way they'd resurrect some 90's "yster" like Adrian Richter and we'll be unbeatable.

Well we have Fourie and Duane........

[ia801310]

Agree with this from Planet Rugby, the whole Bok game plan is built on getting a lead and then suffocating the opposition. That doesn't work if you ship 10 points in the first 10 mins of every match. Also it is obvious to anybody that the Boks are, for whatever reason, not picking their best XV or XXIII

https://www.planetrugby.com/rugby-champ ... -on-track/

"For the Springboks, the message is simple. Pick your best players to start and make sure you have the firepower to score tries. The issues are so obvious that it’s unfathomable why the management cannot see what the solutions are. South Africa are in a precarious place; another loss in a week’s time and make no mistake, the pressure with be on Jacques Nienaber to a level he’s rarely experienced."

I also agree with this Keohane article

https://www.keo.co.za/same-old-boks-mis ... eneration/

They need to ship out some of the dead wood and give youth a chance.

[Sards]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

[ia801310]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

I assume what would happen is either

1. Rassie steps in again as the main man or
2. Jake White steps in to get to the World Cup

[OomStruisbaai]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

I assume what would happen is either

1. Rassie steps in again as the main man or
2. Jake White steps in to get to the World Cup

Dobson to take over immediately. He show the mettle to combat the politics.

[Sards]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

I assume what would happen is either

1. Rassie steps in again as the main man or
2. Jake White steps in to get to the World Cup

If Rassie steps in we are just as much in the kak. It's his game plan. White is the only option really. In a caretaker role

[Sards]

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

I assume what would happen is either

1. Rassie steps in again as the main man or
2. Jake White steps in to get to the World Cup

Dobson to take over immediately. He show the mettle to combat the politics.

No thanks. Let someone not under SARUs administration step in.

[Blake]

So JN is now at a 46% win ratio.

I could see it staying this way until the end of the year.

I think we will drop lower. We barely beat Wales at home so winning north is not certain.
I don't fancy our chances against Argentina and still a game against Australia.

We are in the poo.

If we lose 2 of our next 3 Rassnabber must go immediately to give us a chance next year

I assume what would happen is either

1. Rassie steps in again as the main man or
2. Jake White steps in to get to the World Cup

LOL...neither Rassie nor Jake want the gig, so good luck with that.

[handyman]

The only change I would think about is Nienaber back to assistant and Rassie coaching the team.

[OomStruisbaai]

Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.