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robmatic wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:10 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:04 pm JK Rowling is not particularly left wing.
Oh, there we go, a Labour party donor and feminist is now no longer particularly left wing.
Neither of those things determine where she is on the political spectrum. There are right wing feminists and Labour party donors.

What she says, what she does, the things she actually supports, the people she supports vs the ones she doesn't, and the fact that she's referred to herself as a centrist... Those are decent signifiers.

Labour as a whole covers a very wide range of viewpoints and political beliefs.
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Muttonbird wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:57 am
ia801310 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm This 100%

Lone Skum is daft. It's amazing such stupid idiots become so wealthy. The ego of the man imagining he is the centre and everyone else has moved around him. With new crayons he should do another with the centre in the middle (the clue is in the name).

In those stick drawings, he acknowledges a huge number of voters have now moved to the left of him. Well, that is a good thing, for the socially responsible left! Also, he acknowledges the right has moved away from the centre at exactly the same rate as he has accused the left of doing. And he moved with them.

Someone should take this clown's Twitter account from him.
He grew up with the privilege of wealth, private education and the apartheid system and is now the richest man in the world.

He's about as in touch with reality and the life of the average person as a member of the British royal family.
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Hugo wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:42 pm
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:57 am
ia801310 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm This 100%

Lone Skum is daft. It's amazing such stupid idiots become so wealthy. The ego of the man imagining he is the centre and everyone else has moved around him. With new crayons he should do another with the centre in the middle (the clue is in the name).

In those stick drawings, he acknowledges a huge number of voters have now moved to the left of him. Well, that is a good thing, for the socially responsible left! Also, he acknowledges the right has moved away from the centre at exactly the same rate as he has accused the left of doing. And he moved with them.

Someone should take this clown's Twitter account from him.
He grew up with the privilege of wealth, private education and the apartheid system and is now the richest man in the world.

He's about as in touch with reality and the life of the average person as a member of the British royal family.
I think that is actually an insult to the British Royal family.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:17 am
Muttonbird wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:57 am
ia801310 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm This 100%

Lone Skum is daft. It's amazing such stupid idiots become so wealthy. The ego of the man imagining he is the centre and everyone else has moved around him. With new crayons he should do another with the centre in the middle (the clue is in the name).

In those stick drawings, he acknowledges a huge number of voters have now moved to the left of him. Well, that is a good thing, for the socially responsible left! Also, he acknowledges the right has moved away from the centre at exactly the same rate as he has accused the left of doing. And he moved with them.

Someone should take this clown's Twitter account from him.
Its because he's a Saffer, isn't it?
Yes.
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_Os_ wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:25 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:09 pm Eldan you need to fix the quotes, you've fucked them so hard that it's incredibly difficult to reply to you, even after I've deciphered what you're trying to say.

Needless to say, you can't agree with everything I'm saying then say that nevertheless the "culture war" is a real thing.
I agree, only it's been played by both sides.
Again the "I agree" then disagreeing with everything. More backbone, please.

The "both sides" defence is also bullshit. The Biden administration and the Trump administration isn't evidence both sides are equally irrational and without solutions. Same for Johnson and Starmer. Lets go back to your original point I replied to "fringe campus theories have come into/infiltrated into the corporate mainstream and are impactin on society" (which you tried to wriggle out of by claiming you like me had really said the primary motivation for a big corporate was making money, when that's not what you said), for your "both sides" defence to work we have to believe the ex-president of the fucking US the sole superpower and some washed up professor at a nowhere university in the US somewhere are the same thing. They're not the same thing.
I've not compared Biden with Trump. I ahve discussed the overall state of left and right. of which the actual parties and their leaders are only part of it. Teh entirity fo yoru arguement is absed upon Presidents, not the overall political picture. I've discussed plenty fo times how Biden is very much a corporate Dem, not at all on the left.


My point is Musk has a vested interest in no solutions being reached that help the least well off, because that inevitably means Musk paying more. Therefore Musk supports all the "culture war" bullshit, because it's all a meaningless Potemkin created by the right to advance their interests (which are increasing productivity and sharing that with no one), they distract people by exploiting their fears/bigotry/racism, whilst stealing from those same people. For Musk the right hasn't moved one inch to the right since 2008 and is the norm, that's his view of the world, so that's what his agenda at Twitter will be about perpetuating.

Fucked if I know what your point is. That you agree with this, but no it's actually all wrong and Musk is actually no worse or something. Fuck knows.
I don't think the meme Musk presented is the story in it's entirity. It does reflect how many people strongly see the criticism they get from vocal sections of the left in recent years despite not moving politically how mainstream media sentiment and the social media environment has gone. I'd wager the right hasn't really changed since the Tea Party movement in the Obama days. And back then I was saying it's the right who went nuts then and is still wrong on Roe vs Wade, social health care, minimun wage etc.

I would disagree the culture war bullshit is all created by the right. It's common place many liberals have highlight how intolerant vocal sections of the left to anyone without a puritan view.
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Looks like the board got the boot with the deal going through.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:04 pm Looks like the board got the boot with the deal going through.
Not surprised, it was getting a bit catty.

Although most normal people would have thicker skin. He's notably quick to take offence, old Elon.
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Can look forward to all the lefty "extremists" getting culled and the platform turning into another outpost of stormfront.
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inactionman wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:35 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:04 pm Looks like the board got the boot with the deal going through.
Not surprised, it was getting a bit catty.

Although most normal people would have thicker skin. He's notably quick to take offence, old Elon.
He's saving the human race, bro.
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This should turn out well....

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She claims that after this, her Twitter account has been zero'd. No content left on it.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1579 ... 63488.html
Thought this was an excellent thread by kamil galeev on musk and nonviolent entrepreneurs being selected out by violent ones in most societies.
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petej wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:35 am https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1579 ... 63488.html
Thought this was an excellent thread by kamil galeev on musk and nonviolent entrepreneurs being selected out by violent ones in most societies.
Thanks for that :thumbup:

It's a very clever piece. :thumbup:
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:48 am
_Os_ wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:25 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:22 pm

I agree, only it's been played by both sides.
Again the "I agree" then disagreeing with everything. More backbone, please.

The "both sides" defence is also bullshit. The Biden administration and the Trump administration isn't evidence both sides are equally irrational and without solutions. Same for Johnson and Starmer. Lets go back to your original point I replied to "fringe campus theories have come into/infiltrated into the corporate mainstream and are impactin on society" (which you tried to wriggle out of by claiming you like me had really said the primary motivation for a big corporate was making money, when that's not what you said), for your "both sides" defence to work we have to believe the ex-president of the fucking US the sole superpower and some washed up professor at a nowhere university in the US somewhere are the same thing. They're not the same thing.
I've not compared Biden with Trump. I ahve discussed the overall state of left and right. of which the actual parties and their leaders are only part of it. Teh entirity fo yoru arguement is absed upon Presidents, not the overall political picture. I've discussed plenty fo times how Biden is very much a corporate Dem, not at all on the left.


My point is Musk has a vested interest in no solutions being reached that help the least well off, because that inevitably means Musk paying more. Therefore Musk supports all the "culture war" bullshit, because it's all a meaningless Potemkin created by the right to advance their interests (which are increasing productivity and sharing that with no one), they distract people by exploiting their fears/bigotry/racism, whilst stealing from those same people. For Musk the right hasn't moved one inch to the right since 2008 and is the norm, that's his view of the world, so that's what his agenda at Twitter will be about perpetuating.

Fucked if I know what your point is. That you agree with this, but no it's actually all wrong and Musk is actually no worse or something. Fuck knows.
I don't think the meme Musk presented is the story in it's entirity. It does reflect how many people strongly see the criticism they get from vocal sections of the left in recent years despite not moving politically how mainstream media sentiment and the social media environment has gone. I'd wager the right hasn't really changed since the Tea Party movement in the Obama days. And back then I was saying it's the right who went nuts then and is still wrong on Roe vs Wade, social health care, minimun wage etc.

I would disagree the culture war bullshit is all created by the right. It's common place many liberals have highlight how intolerant vocal sections of the left to anyone without a puritan view.
The right hasn’t changed since the Tea Party movement? Fucking hell.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Talk of 50% cuts in Dublin.
I'm sure other companies will accept the largesse gratefully.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:30 pm Talk of 50% cuts in Dublin.
I'm sure other companies will accept the largesse gratefully.
Just read an Australian news story saying that all local employees have been logged and locked out.

Musk is about to show us all his Trump style business genius.
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We've all I'm sure made those drunken purchases, & regretted it the next day; but I can't say as I ever overpaid by $25Bn to buy a vanity project !

This is just a narcissistic bell end, buying himself the worlds largest megaphone, because he's decided the rest of the planet is really interested in his opinions.

However smart Musk is, I'm sure he isn't as smart as he thinks he is, & buying twitter just proves this. He's about to turn it into myspace.
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... according to internal sources it appeared the “entire” curation team across Twitter had been dismissed, although the system lockouts made it difficult to be certain. Twitter’s curation team plays a key role in coverage of “civic integrity” events such as elections, breaking news and sports, ensuring users have vetted information presented as moments, trends and topics products. It is viewed internally as a key filter against misleading posts.

The employee added that flags from partner news organisations about possible misinformation on the platform were going unanswered. “The platform is likely to become more toxic with less healthy information to counter the disinformation or misinformation narratives,” said the employee, who was speaking on condition of anonymity.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... venue-drop
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:06 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:38 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:30 pm Talk of 50% cuts in Dublin.
I'm sure other companies will accept the largesse gratefully.
Just read an Australian news story saying that all local employees have been logged and locked out.

Musk is about to show us all his Trump style business genius.
Well I think he is a massive fucking dick and nowhere near the genius his bros think he is but tech is about to getting pretty sketchy for a while. Stripe are run by the Collison brothers and are the anti Musks but they are getting rid of 14% of staff as a first measure.
At least with Stripe, there's going to be a plan, & 14% is a big number, but with Twitter it's 50%, & he decided it last week, so there's no chance that there's any rhyme or reason to who gets cut, & who gets kept.

The only discernible pattern so far is that he's taking an axe to anyone, or any project involved in moderation, so we can all see what the plan is.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:09 pm Of course he is. People could leave but they won't as they are addicted. I had a brief Internet addiction to Zynga Poker years ago and then got addicted to PR. It's set up to draw us in. These days I watch films again, read and run. I'm like an advert in some sci-fi movie
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There is some alternative to Twitter coming around, Blue Sky or something like that.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm There is some alternative to Twitter coming around, Blue Sky or something like that.
Well there's going to be a few thousand people who are experts in setting up an SM platform appearing on the jobs market soon, & it's not like Twitter has a secret sauce that's unique, they just got there first, & now they've a clown in charge, who's doing his best to drive away many of the content creators on the platform
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm There is some alternative to Twitter coming around, Blue Sky or something like that.
Well there's going to be a few thousand people who are experts in setting up an SM platform appearing on the jobs market soon, & it's not like Twitter has a secret sauce that's unique, they just got there first, & now they've a clown in charge, who's doing his best to drive away many of the content creators on the platform
Like... Jack Dorsey, the guy who started Twitter? :lol:

https://punchng.com/ex-twitter-ceo-dors ... -platform/
Founder and former CEO of microblogging website, Twitter, Jack Dorsey, has launched a new social media platform, “Bluesky”.

This came barely a week that a United States business tycoon and owner of Tesla vehicles, Elon Musk, acquired the ownership of Twitter for $44 billion on April 14, 2022, and completed it on October 27, 2022.


Dorsey’s Bluesky has garnered over 30,000 users in just two days after the announcement of the new app.

Report has it that Bluesky gives creators independence from platforms and developers and the freedom to design, allowing users to choose their experience as it gives users control of their algorithms.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:47 am This should turn out well....

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She claims that after this, her Twitter account has been zero'd. No content left on it.
Fake news?
Her account still seems to be there.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:48 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm There is some alternative to Twitter coming around, Blue Sky or something like that.
Well there's going to be a few thousand people who are experts in setting up an SM platform appearing on the jobs market soon, & it's not like Twitter has a secret sauce that's unique, they just got there first, & now they've a clown in charge, who's doing his best to drive away many of the content creators on the platform
Like... Jack Dorsey, the guy who started Twitter? :lol:

https://punchng.com/ex-twitter-ceo-dors ... -platform/
Founder and former CEO of microblogging website, Twitter, Jack Dorsey, has launched a new social media platform, “Bluesky”.

This came barely a week that a United States business tycoon and owner of Tesla vehicles, Elon Musk, acquired the ownership of Twitter for $44 billion on April 14, 2022, and completed it on October 27, 2022.


Dorsey’s Bluesky has garnered over 30,000 users in just two days after the announcement of the new app.

Report has it that Bluesky gives creators independence from platforms and developers and the freedom to design, allowing users to choose their experience as it gives users control of their algorithms.
Dammit !!!

I knew I should have include a lobotomy clause in the takeover contract .....

Who could possibly have anticipated that he would just create a Rev 2.0 :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:02 pm

Fake news?
Her account still seems to be there.
She was saying all the content had gone, not the account itself.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:06 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:02 pm

Fake news?
Her account still seems to be there.
She was saying all the content had gone, not the account itself.
Ah okay. Good to know the largest megaphone on the internet is in good hands anyway.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:11 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:06 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:02 pm

Fake news?
Her account still seems to be there.
She was saying all the content had gone, not the account itself.
Ah okay. Good to know the largest megaphone on the internet is in good hands anyway.
It's on auto-pilot at the moment, as it seems like no-one is working for the last 24 hrs, hence nothing getting updated.

The megaphone will get a lot smaller, or at least less reliable in the next year, as one of the demands Musk has made is to reduce their fixed costs by a billion next year, which will be a good trick, because fixed costs is basically their compute & network costs, & with the increase in power costs they are all going up, so all they can do is reduce & cross their fingers.
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So he's going to turn the place into Parler?
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He's been in a few tight corners before has old Musk. His twitter persona makes him sounds like a right clueless git but he must have a fairly tight team behind him.
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Anyone use Mastodon?

Or views on other sites?

I’ve chucked my name into bluesky, the new platform Jack Dorsey is building (how did Musk not put a clause in that he couldn’t do that for a few years? Fairly standard in buyouts).
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:00 am Anyone use Mastodon?

Or views on other sites?

I’ve chucked my name into bluesky, the new platform Jack Dorsey is building (how did Musk not put a clause in that he couldn’t do that for a few years? Fairly standard in buyouts).
Well he sacked everybody so there's no agreements in place.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 pm Bluesky was funded by Twitter. I'd like to be clearer about how it's really structured. Having said that I never joined Twanker so why would I care
I hate Twitter in some ways and avoid interacting with people on it, but living in Turkey it's basically the only way to keep track of the domestic news as TV and newspapers are completely under the thumb of the government.
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Biffer wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:00 am Anyone use Mastodon?

Or views on other sites?

I’ve chucked my name into bluesky, the new platform Jack Dorsey is building (how did Musk not put a clause in that he couldn’t do that for a few years? Fairly standard in buyouts).
Dorsey announced he was leaving long before Musk started the process of buying Twitter.
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Well in Ireland at least it's confirmed that Twitter have broken employment law with these layoffs, & I have to say their redundancy offer is pretty derisory for a tech sector employer.

Two weeks per year above the statutory number is the bullshit.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/1 ... 9-twitter/
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That does not look good.
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Not sure that anyone is surprised, Musk was always a bog standard central casting libertarian robber baron, he just happened to jump aboard a hot topic with Tesla and rode it to the Moon.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:46 pm Well in Ireland at least it's confirmed that Twitter have broken employment law with these layoffs, & I have to say their redundancy offer is pretty derisory for a tech sector employer.

Two weeks per year above the statutory number is the bullshit.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/1 ... 9-twitter/
Big surprise. Expect Musk to be railing against the "socialist" government soon.
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