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Slick wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:30 pm Suddenly getting a horrible sick feeling about this evening
I'm even more confident now. Probably because I've put 4 beers down range so far
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Dogbert wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:03 pm Just keep telling yourself that it's only a game
If only
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:05 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:30 pm Suddenly getting a horrible sick feeling about this evening
I'm even more confident now. Probably because I've put 4 beers down range so far
😂
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Slick wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:30 pm Suddenly getting a horrible sick feeling about this evening
I just assume Scotland will lose. I am never disappointed, and occasionally pleased.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:04 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:35 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:26 am

Siones instead of Huwipolotou is interesting - they're both essentially 13s so Toonie going for to opposite solution to Franco Smith. In attack, those numbers shouldn't mean much. Will be interesting to see if Jones can make us forget Harris' defence though.
I don't think England will be very attack focused to be fair as it's the hardest install. Borthwick's England is going to be fix the defence and kick the leather aff it and kick chase kick chase kick chase, target the breakdown after the kick chase. Townsend will know this so maybe Jones is in there as the game breaker.

Also I think Graham has been our best attacking weapon the last year so with him out adding some threat is a good plan.
I think you are right that England will kick a lot Neeps. I am looking forward to seeing Hogg knock back kicks from the 22 with interest and Finn brining out his excellent tactical kicking game from midfield. I think Tuipolotu might also surprise England with his short kicking game, he's certainly surprised me.
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That's why he and Graham are our first choice wingers and always will be until they drop off. Very few of our back 3 options can do that.
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Big D wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:15 pm That's why he and Graham are our first choice wingers and always will be until they drop off. Very few of our back 3 options can do that.
Absolute powderpuff from England but still a quality score.
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Pretty disappointed to end that half behind, but generally not too much to be annoyed about in that half.
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Yep. Kicking poor but that's a lot to do with pressure.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:34 pm Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
I think a few have been fairly average. We've missed too many tackles and allowing them to get quick ruck ball.

England got up the field far too easily at the end.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:34 pm Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
He's been average. We all remember games where he was shit. They didn't look like this, we were usually thirty points down.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:34 pm Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
His kicking has been

Not the time to go into this but Duhans defence is also a real liability
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Biffer wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:37 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:34 pm Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
He's been average. We all remember games where he was shit. They didn't look like this, we were usually thirty points down.
Have a feeling he’s going to turn it on now
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Slick wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:37 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:34 pm Finn has been a bit shit too tbh
His kicking has been

Not the time to go into this but Duhans defence is also a real liability
Duhan hasnt been at fault despite the tries being his side. He had to come in due to lack of urgency for others to move across. Gray and Ritchie didn't work hard enough for the 2nd try.

For the 1st he has to come in as the England 13 is in space outside the Scottish centres and would have a walk in for the 2nd the inside defender is pulled out of line leaving a 3 on 1 v Duhan.
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As he then misses a tackle.
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Yasssss
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We're definitely asking our wingers to bite in. Few times both have looked out of position in the line.
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I am enjoying this 0%.
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Fucking yaldi
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An away BP.win is always a good win.

Plenty for both those sides to work on.
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F~CK YEAH!!

Cracking game with the right result
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Monkey off the back from any snide digs about the last one being during covid too.
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YAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSS
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Big D wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:32 pm Monkey off the back from any snide digs about the last one being during covid too.
Ex fucking zactly!!!!
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Didn't catch all of the game as I was at an 80th birthday party but fucking superb, absolutely amazing!!! Yaaaaassssssss!
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Duhan's tries were things of beauty - big Richie's part in the second would have been good from an international centre on ten minutes into the game, from a 30+ year old lock on 70 minutes it was nothing short of sensational
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Awesome! Did not see that coming. A BP win is fantastic, especially given we made plenty of mistakes. A vintage win, arguably without a vintage Finn performance
Left hand down a bit
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It’s on boys
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Ben White was really good.
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Well done on the great win. Fun test match as well.
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You do realise this means we'll lose to Wales?
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A bit worried how easily we gave up territory, especially as we were clearly not fully competing at the rucks. I also thought Finn was a bit average but it never got to the stage he was problematic. On the face of it Ritchie and Crosbie had poor games but that could just be the impression left by the tactics.

I would actually stick with the same front 5. I like WP being given 50 minutes and Zander coming on. I would imagine Watson will be back and Ritchie will move to the blindside. As others have said big Richie's hands in the try were superb and he was a real menace in the lineout.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:38 pm Ben White was really good.
Yep, has always been sharp off the bench so definitely deserves the start, certainly since Price has been terrible since the Lions.
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Big D wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:32 pm Monkey off the back from any snide digs about the last one being during covid too.
Yup. If you look back on the last three games at Twickenham, first we had the crazy comeback for the draw (and almost win). Then we actually did win, but without fans. And now we’ve beaten them with the place packed. The fear is well and truly gone. If only we could have closed out the NZ game, that one might be gone too!

Please, please, can we just not throw next week’s game away. I honestly can’t recall when Scotland last won our first two games.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:01 pm A bit worried how easily we gave up territory, especially as we were clearly not fully competing at the rucks. I also thought Finn was a bit average but it never got to the stage he was problematic. On the face of it Ritchie and Crosbie had poor games but that could just be the impression left by the tactics.

I would actually stick with the same front 5. I like WP being given 50 minutes and Zander coming on. I would imagine Watson will be back and Ritchie will move to the blindside. As others have said big Richie's hands in the try were superb and he was a real menace in the lineout.
Easy to criticise Crosbie and Ritchie but they did keep the English forwards quiet for large parts of the game. Whilst they weren't flashy they stuck in and did the hard donkey work close in. Sometimes it is just roll the sleeves up and dig in type of game for these guys. I'm not sure I would make many changes for next week other than on the bench with Fagerson and Watson coming in.
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Our RWC group now include the teams ranked #1, #4 & #5
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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dpedin wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:01 pm A bit worried how easily we gave up territory, especially as we were clearly not fully competing at the rucks. I also thought Finn was a bit average but it never got to the stage he was problematic. On the face of it Ritchie and Crosbie had poor games but that could just be the impression left by the tactics.

I would actually stick with the same front 5. I like WP being given 50 minutes and Zander coming on. I would imagine Watson will be back and Ritchie will move to the blindside. As others have said big Richie's hands in the try were superb and he was a real menace in the lineout.
Easy to criticise Crosbie and Ritchie but they did keep the English forwards quiet for large parts of the game. Whilst they weren't flashy they stuck in and did the hard donkey work close in. Sometimes it is just roll the sleeves up and dig in type of game for these guys. I'm not sure I would make many changes for next week other than on the bench with Fagerson and Watson coming in.
I can only presume the breakdown tactics were a way of tightening up on the discipline and it largely worked so it's nice not seeing us get whistled off the park.

I get so pissed off at refs giving nonsense scrum penalties. The one against Nel in the first half was just nonsense and the one where Cole's head popped up virtually facing backwards was equally as bad.
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dpedin wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:01 pm A bit worried how easily we gave up territory, especially as we were clearly not fully competing at the rucks. I also thought Finn was a bit average but it never got to the stage he was problematic. On the face of it Ritchie and Crosbie had poor games but that could just be the impression left by the tactics.

I would actually stick with the same front 5. I like WP being given 50 minutes and Zander coming on. I would imagine Watson will be back and Ritchie will move to the blindside. As others have said big Richie's hands in the try were superb and he was a real menace in the lineout.
Easy to criticise Crosbie and Ritchie but they did keep the English forwards quiet for large parts of the game. Whilst they weren't flashy they stuck in and did the hard donkey work close in. Sometimes it is just roll the sleeves up and dig in type of game for these guys. I'm not sure I would make many changes for next week other than on the bench with Fagerson and Watson coming in.
Not sure I’d agree with Watson coming on to the bench, I thought Dempsey was very good when he came on and deserves another go next week.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:34 pm
dpedin wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:01 pm A bit worried how easily we gave up territory, especially as we were clearly not fully competing at the rucks. I also thought Finn was a bit average but it never got to the stage he was problematic. On the face of it Ritchie and Crosbie had poor games but that could just be the impression left by the tactics.

I would actually stick with the same front 5. I like WP being given 50 minutes and Zander coming on. I would imagine Watson will be back and Ritchie will move to the blindside. As others have said big Richie's hands in the try were superb and he was a real menace in the lineout.
Easy to criticise Crosbie and Ritchie but they did keep the English forwards quiet for large parts of the game. Whilst they weren't flashy they stuck in and did the hard donkey work close in. Sometimes it is just roll the sleeves up and dig in type of game for these guys. I'm not sure I would make many changes for next week other than on the bench with Fagerson and Watson coming in.
Not sure I’d agree with Watson coming on to the bench, I thought Dempsey was very good when he came on and deserves another go next week.
I thought Watson was right back on track last week for Edinburgh. If fit he has to be back, especially against Gatland's dads army.
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