2023 Six Nations
What a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as wellPaddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.
Yeah, happy to debate a yellow card as it was probably more reflex than intent, but I guess it's tricky territory when refs are guessing as to player's intent.Big D wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm I don't think he meant harm but think the ref is right as per laws.
Over the hills and far away........
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Paddington Bear
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Fuck off, you’d have whined for years if Wales had had thatC69 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:52 pmWhat a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as wellPaddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Not where player safety is concerned princess.Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:54 pmFuck off, you’d have whined for years if Wales had had thatC69 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:52 pmWhat a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as wellPaddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.
The game will die if head shots are allowed.
Look at the group actions being taken atm by players with dementia.
I am on the side of player safety. I have seen professionally what happens to head contacts.
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Paddington Bear
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There’s nothing in this at all, we probably would have faded in the last 20 anyway. What a waste, what a farce, you can’t play rugby like this
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Spot on as usual ER.
It fucking should be it was a nothing!!
Louw’s fault for throwing such a shithouse pass that Keenan had to turn and grovel to collect it.
His shape was lead by going for the ball.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pmDon't go for the ball and certainly don't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head. This stuff is not complicated anymoretc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
So the advice is not to go for the ball?
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Duty of care, standing up and elbow to head. Dangerous end of.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pmDon't go for the ball and certainly don't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head. This stuff is not complicated anymoretc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
Clearest red by the laws of the game.
It was more like a brace for impact. Surely there was mitigation in that the Irisher was so low.tc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
He probably should not have turned side on to that collision though, that was how he might have avoided it.
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Well, he could've committed to making a tackle. Even if Keenan never gathered the ball and Steward was thus tackling a man without it, that's a penalty only offence.tc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
There's certainly an argument that maybe it should be a yellow, rather than a red, not least for Keenan's height/body position, but Steward chose to come steaming in towards a player not clearly in possession of the ball and made a late decision to brace for contact rather than make a tackle. It's a reckless action the outcome of which is not really under his control.
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Well he could have not closed the gap to the point where wasn't going to be able to carry out a legal tackle ?tc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
He was left with the choice of being fact to fact & probably having a head-on-head incident, result Red Card; or what he did, & turning, & shouldering the attacking player in the head, result Red Card.
Fair point. If Keenan had run into Steward’s hip and sparked out, ref would have blown for the scrum.Openside wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pmThe whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.
Except the ball was still live and play continued.Openside wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pmThe whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.
Ffs he didn’t lead with his elbow it was beside his body Keenan was running head down. I am not one of the rugby is going soft brigade but I find that decision mystifying it didn’t happen at speed that is at worst a YC but rugby incident for me.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:58 pmElbow to the head. Are you all on the wind upOpenside wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:57 pm Oh dear there will now have to be an asterisk by Irelands Grand Slam.
High degree of danger my arse!!
Pound to a penny there will be no ban .
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They made the decision because of the day it is. What a joke
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
The ball was live.Sandstorm wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:04 pmFair point. If Keenan had run into Steward’s hip and sparked out, ref would have blown for the scrum.
That’s it for me.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pmdon't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head.tc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
No just no.Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:06 pm They made the decision because of the day it is. What a joke
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Glacial ball from the ruck.
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Other than not turn sideways and present his shoulder?tc27 wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.
