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Big D wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:36 pm Edinburgh put them away but the Ospreys were very poor. Partly due to Edinburgh playing well but partly due to being pish.
Though worrying by how much the scrum fell apart after the starting front row went off.
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Edinburgh's next game against Ulster at the Kingspan will probably provide a better indicator on where Edinburgh 's level truly is.

A win in Ulster would be a good way to finish a poor season
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Dogbert wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:41 pm Edinburgh's next game against Ulster at the Kingspan will probably provide a better indicator on where Edinburgh 's level truly is.

A win in Ulster would be a good way to finish a poor season
I don't see us dogging it out and getting anything over there.
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Are they playing for anything?
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Jock42 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:19 pm Are they playing for anything?
Ulster - very much so

Currently 2nd , but only 1 point ahead of the Stormers . If Ulster win with a try bonus point , then they take 2nd no matter what Stormers do ( Stormers are at home against Benneton for their final game.)

Being 2nd in the league , as far as I am aware would mean that Ulster would not meet Leinster until the final , which is a pretty decent incentive
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Nel, Schoeman, Gilchrist, Duhan and Darcy all should get the tap on the shoulder this week and told they're done and to report back fit for the start of the world cup camp.

Pointless playing them this week.
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Good on the SRU for not charging for many kids tickets for the warm ups.

Bought a two ticket package for me, Mrs Big D and the sprogs for the Italy and Georgia games. £120 total for silver tickets so £30 a head for adults and kids for nowt.
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Ollie Leatherbarrow, who was outstanding for the U20s in 2022, has signed for Newcastle (from Exeter). A big abrasive number 8. If he gets gametime he is like nothing we currently have in our squad IMO.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:22 am Ollie Leatherbarrow, who was outstanding for the U20s in 2022, has signed for Newcastle (from Exeter). A big abrasive number 8. If he gets gametime he is like nothing we currently have in our squad IMO.
I may be misremembering but for the u20s I thought he was exactly like Muncaster. Slightly smaller 8 who is pretty ferocious in contact.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:22 am Ollie Leatherbarrow, who was outstanding for the U20s in 2022, has signed for Newcastle (from Exeter). A big abrasive number 8. If he gets gametime he is like nothing we currently have in our squad IMO.
Is he committed to Scotland? Obviously not capped, but in spirit?
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McInally retiring in November to become a pilot. Which is a long held ambition of his.

A very good career from starting at 8 and becoming a top class hooker.
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Big D wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:32 pm McInally retiring in November to become a pilot. Which is a long held ambition of his.

A very good career from starting at 8 and becoming a top class hooker.
I read that. I hope multiple head knocks don't scupper that ambition.

A fine player who at one point was close to best in the world.
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Big D wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:32 pm McInally retiring in November to become a pilot. Which is a long held ambition of his.

A very good career from starting at 8 and becoming a top class hooker.
"Retiring in November" means "I want to go to the RWC". Not sure that's likely, but he's been an excellent international.
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All the best to Stuart in his future career. He has been a great servant to Edinburgh and Scotland and I was fortunate enough to know him as a young backrower all the way through to hooker
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charltom wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:32 pm McInally retiring in November to become a pilot. Which is a long held ambition of his.

A very good career from starting at 8 and becoming a top class hooker.
"Retiring in November" means "I want to go to the RWC". Not sure that's likely, but he's been an excellent international.
It would be daft to close the door on that at this late stage by him or the SRU. I don't think there is a huge amount between Brown, Cherry and Rambo and given the potential for injury he's probably been asked to at worst be available as an injury back up.
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Big D wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:27 pm
charltom wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:08 pm
Big D wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:32 pm McInally retiring in November to become a pilot. Which is a long held ambition of his.

A very good career from starting at 8 and becoming a top class hooker.
"Retiring in November" means "I want to go to the RWC". Not sure that's likely, but he's been an excellent international.
It would be daft to close the door on that at this late stage by him or the SRU. I don't think there is a huge amount between Brown, Cherry and Rambo and given the potential for injury he's probably been asked to at worst be available as an injury back up.
They're also saying that's when his contract runs out, so he got his last contract extension with the RWC in mind. Turner is first choice, I'd definitely take Ashman, that leaves one out of Brown, McInally and Cherry. Who knows, injury strikes and all of a sudden Mcinally is starting hooker against SA.
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Jamie Dobie extends his contract at Glasgow Warriors

Another good bit of business signed ,sealed and delievred

I've absolutely loved the four years I've spent here so far," Dobie told glasgowwarriors.org upon his re-signing.

"We've grown a lot and this season we've shown the benefits of the work we've put in over the last few months. We want to do something special as a group not only this season, but every season, and that's something I want to be a part of.

"I'm really pleased with how my personal game is progressing; the coaching team here is fantastic to work with, and we've got a great group of players that really challenges each other and drives standards higher.

"Playing at the weekend is what we all want to be doing, and this season I've been really pleased with the game time I've had. I've been involved in some big fixtures and really enjoyed getting stuck in for this team, and that feeling when you win games like that is unbeatable. That's what everyone plays for.

"Being out there with good friends and playing good rugby is what it's all about, and hopefully we can give the Warrior Nation plenty to cheer about over the next few weeks."

Wonder if Ali Price might move on - rekindle a Bromace at Bath perhaps
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Dogbert wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:53 pm Jamie Dobie extends his contract at Glasgow Warriors

Another good bit of business signed ,sealed and delievred

I've absolutely loved the four years I've spent here so far," Dobie told glasgowwarriors.org upon his re-signing.

"We've grown a lot and this season we've shown the benefits of the work we've put in over the last few months. We want to do something special as a group not only this season, but every season, and that's something I want to be a part of.

"I'm really pleased with how my personal game is progressing; the coaching team here is fantastic to work with, and we've got a great group of players that really challenges each other and drives standards higher.

"Playing at the weekend is what we all want to be doing, and this season I've been really pleased with the game time I've had. I've been involved in some big fixtures and really enjoyed getting stuck in for this team, and that feeling when you win games like that is unbeatable. That's what everyone plays for.

"Being out there with good friends and playing good rugby is what it's all about, and hopefully we can give the Warrior Nation plenty to cheer about over the next few weeks."

Wonder if Ali Price might move on - rekindle a Bromace at Bath perhaps
Price is still under contract isn't he?

It is a bit depressing that a player seen as a bright prospect is "really pleased" with the game time he has had when it is five starts and 6 off the bench in his favoured position. We are hamstrung across both pro teams but when the likes of Boyle and Dobie who aren't miles apart in age getting 8 starts (not counting Dobie's emergency wing cameos) something needs to be done.
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Dogbert wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:18 pm
Jock42 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:19 pm Are they playing for anything?
Ulster - very much so

Currently 2nd , but only 1 point ahead of the Stormers . If Ulster win with a try bonus point , then they take 2nd no matter what Stormers do ( Stormers are at home against Benneton for their final game.)

Being 2nd in the league , as far as I am aware would mean that Ulster would not meet Leinster until the final , which is a pretty decent incentive
Ulster have more wins than the Stormers so as long as Ulster win they guarantee 2nd as wins is the first differentiator for teams finishing with equal points, don't need a BP. Albeit Ulster only have 2 wins without a BP in the league this season.
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Big D wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:48 am
Dogbert wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:53 pm Jamie Dobie extends his contract at Glasgow Warriors

Another good bit of business signed ,sealed and delievred

I've absolutely loved the four years I've spent here so far," Dobie told glasgowwarriors.org upon his re-signing.

"We've grown a lot and this season we've shown the benefits of the work we've put in over the last few months. We want to do something special as a group not only this season, but every season, and that's something I want to be a part of.

"I'm really pleased with how my personal game is progressing; the coaching team here is fantastic to work with, and we've got a great group of players that really challenges each other and drives standards higher.

"Playing at the weekend is what we all want to be doing, and this season I've been really pleased with the game time I've had. I've been involved in some big fixtures and really enjoyed getting stuck in for this team, and that feeling when you win games like that is unbeatable. That's what everyone plays for.

"Being out there with good friends and playing good rugby is what it's all about, and hopefully we can give the Warrior Nation plenty to cheer about over the next few weeks."

Wonder if Ali Price might move on - rekindle a Bromace at Bath perhaps
Price is still under contract isn't he?

It is a bit depressing that a player seen as a bright prospect is "really pleased" with the game time he has had when it is five starts and 6 off the bench in his favoured position. We are hamstrung across both pro teams but when the likes of Boyle and Dobie who aren't miles apart in age getting 8 starts (not counting Dobie's emergency wing cameos) something needs to be done.
You'd think we needed a third pro team...
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:14 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:48 am
Dogbert wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:53 pm Jamie Dobie extends his contract at Glasgow Warriors

Another good bit of business signed ,sealed and delievred

I've absolutely loved the four years I've spent here so far," Dobie told glasgowwarriors.org upon his re-signing.

"We've grown a lot and this season we've shown the benefits of the work we've put in over the last few months. We want to do something special as a group not only this season, but every season, and that's something I want to be a part of.

"I'm really pleased with how my personal game is progressing; the coaching team here is fantastic to work with, and we've got a great group of players that really challenges each other and drives standards higher.

"Playing at the weekend is what we all want to be doing, and this season I've been really pleased with the game time I've had. I've been involved in some big fixtures and really enjoyed getting stuck in for this team, and that feeling when you win games like that is unbeatable. That's what everyone plays for.

"Being out there with good friends and playing good rugby is what it's all about, and hopefully we can give the Warrior Nation plenty to cheer about over the next few weeks."

Wonder if Ali Price might move on - rekindle a Bromace at Bath perhaps
Price is still under contract isn't he?

It is a bit depressing that a player seen as a bright prospect is "really pleased" with the game time he has had when it is five starts and 6 off the bench in his favoured position. We are hamstrung across both pro teams but when the likes of Boyle and Dobie who aren't miles apart in age getting 8 starts (not counting Dobie's emergency wing cameos) something needs to be done.
You'd think we needed a third pro team...
Maybe two moderately successful pro teams might be a more achievable target
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Sounds like it's a hellish time he's been having. Fair play for being so honest.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:39 pm Sounds like it's a hellish time he's been having. Fair play for being so honest.
Fair play indeed for knowing and accepting his time is up
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Sad but understandable. Hope he leaves us a few more epic memories during WRC. Warmest wishes as he gets on with the rest of his life.
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Is there any benefit to the weegies finishing 3rd?
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Jock42 wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:56 am Is there any benefit to the weegies finishing 3rd?
Potential Semi final vs Ulster rather than Leinster.
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Glasgow Team for Connaucht

A mixture of what you you expect of what could be considered Glasgow's strongest team , and those knocking on the door

Its a strong pack , ans a decent bench

Jamie Dobie on the wing ( still 51 caps for a 21 year old isn't too shabby ) hopefully Seb is not too far away from coming back from injury.

Looks like gentle drizzle for the match , as long as it's not the monsoon conditions we had against the Scarlets , everyone will be happy

Looks like Oillie Smith is being wrapped in cotton wool


15 Huw Jones

14 Jamie Dobie
13 Stafford McDowall (Captain)
12 Sam Johnson
11 Cole Forbes

10 Tom Jordan
9 Ali Price

1 Allan Dell
2 Fraser Brown
3 Lucio Sordoni
4 Scott Cummings
5 Richie Gray
6 Rory Darge
7 Sione Vailanu
8 Jack Dempsey

Substitutes

16 Johnny Matthews
17 Jamie Bhatti
18 Zander Fagerson
19 JP du Preez
20 Lewis Bean
21 Matt Fagerson
22 George Horne
23 Domingo Miotti

Unavailable for selection: Sebastian Cancelliere (knee), Sintu Manjezi (knee), Jack Mann (head), Josh McKay (foot), Cameron Neild (calf), Enrique Pieretto (chest), Ross Thompson (foot), Sione Tuipulotu (shoulder), George Turner (shoulder)
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earl the beaver wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:17 am
Jock42 wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:56 am Is there any benefit to the weegies finishing 3rd?
Potential Semi final vs Ulster rather than Leinster.
Thank you for indulging my laziness.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:28 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:39 pm Sounds like it's a hellish time he's been having. Fair play for being so honest.
Fair play indeed for knowing and accepting his time is up
He's doing Exeter a good turn rather than seeing out his contract (think he had a year left). Will help their finances
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Byron McGuigan has announced his retirement and will join the Sale Sharks coaching staff after the season.

He earlier announced he'd make himself available for the Namibia RWC squad - not sure if that's still happening.
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Regardless of whether the ref is right with that knock on call its clear Ritchie can not communicate with refs. He sounded like a petulant child there.
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Dogbert wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:48 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:14 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:48 am

Price is still under contract isn't he?

It is a bit depressing that a player seen as a bright prospect is "really pleased" with the game time he has had when it is five starts and 6 off the bench in his favoured position. We are hamstrung across both pro teams but when the likes of Boyle and Dobie who aren't miles apart in age getting 8 starts (not counting Dobie's emergency wing cameos) something needs to be done.
You'd think we needed a third pro team...
Maybe two moderately successful pro teams might be a more achievable target
I am decreasingly convinced by the strength of this argument. We don’t have enough shirts available for promising young players to get enough game time. The only way that’s going to improve is to have another pro team. Financial constraints aside, the main argument against this would be that our player pool would be spread more thinly - but I think maybe it actually needs to be. Would either of the current two pro teams be significantly weakened by losing some of their fringe players?
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Caught up with the Super6 games last night, impressed with speed and the intensity the 'A' teams brought and how well the other teams adapted. I think if that filters into the Super6 comp it an only be a good thing in he long term and make the step up to pro level easier for those with the potential, it also gets the fringe pros some necessary additional game time and maybe gives some the kick up the @rse some of them need.
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dkm57 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:28 am Caught up with the Super6 games last night, impressed with speed and the intensity the 'A' teams brought and how well the other teams adapted. I think if that filters into the Super6 comp it an only be a good thing in he long term and make the step up to pro level easier for those with the potential, it also gets the fringe pros some necessary additional game time and maybe gives some the kick up the @rse some of them need.
Where does one catch up?
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weegie01 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:49 am
dkm57 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:28 am Caught up with the Super6 games last night, impressed with speed and the intensity the 'A' teams brought and how well the other teams adapted. I think if that filters into the Super6 comp it an only be a good thing in he long term and make the step up to pro level easier for those with the potential, it also gets the fringe pros some necessary additional game time and maybe gives some the kick up the @rse some of them need.
Where does one catch up?
They’re on BBC iPlayer I think.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:06 am
weegie01 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:49 am
dkm57 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:28 am Caught up with the Super6 games last night, impressed with speed and the intensity the 'A' teams brought and how well the other teams adapted. I think if that filters into the Super6 comp it an only be a good thing in he long term and make the step up to pro level easier for those with the potential, it also gets the fringe pros some necessary additional game time and maybe gives some the kick up the @rse some of them need.
Where does one catch up?
They’re on BBC iPlayer I think.
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Staying in the capital. 🏰💥
Scrum-half Charlie Shiel has penned a one-year extension with his boyhood club!
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westport wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:41 am Staying in the capital. 🏰💥
Scrum-half Charlie Shiel has penned a one-year extension with his boyhood club!
I am surprised to see that.

I just do not understand what is happening with him. He does not get much game time, but gets kept on. Having said that, I think he should be getting more game time. He has spoilt a few performances with daft errors, but to me it looks like he just needs a run of games to sort that out and get a better understanding of what refs will / will not allow.

It's a shame Edinburgh has not had a decent SH on the coaching ticket for a wahile. :crazy: :crazy:
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Speaking of Edinburgh coaches, anyone any thoughts on who might be next in the Ejection seat? I'm hoping it's not Steve Diamond as it was pointedly called a consultancy when he started.
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