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weegie01 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:23 pm
westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:51 am Some pool Edinburgh have in Challenge Cup
Castres, Montpellier, Clermont, Invitee 2, Gloucester and Scarlets
My son and I have always said that the Stade Marcel-Michelin was the one stadium we would make a point of going to if Edinburgh never played them.

We never imagined we'd end up playing them as we were both poor, and the frenzy had abated. Watch us get them at home.

Never been to Castres, nor Montpellier for many years. But depending on the draws there are some decent potential away trips in there.
Just noticed, no Montpellier. Castres, Clermont, Scarlets, Invitee, Scarlets, Edinburgh is the six team group.

Went to Montpellier when we had them in the Champs Cup a few years back. Had a great time. Castres or Clernmont would be fun though.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:05 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:00 pm
westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:51 am Some pool Edinburgh have in Challenge Cup
Castres, Montpellier, Clermont, Invitee 2, Gloucester and Scarlets
I am going to one of those France away games! That's ridiculous though.
I would recommend Montpellier, it is gorgeous and has a huge stadium
Yeah, Montpellier is a great trip
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Simian wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:43 pm
westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:05 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:00 pm

I am going to one of those France away games! That's ridiculous though.
I would recommend Montpellier, it is gorgeous and has a huge stadium
Yeah, Montpellier is a great trip
Yeah, but Montpellier aren't in our group.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:00 pm
Simian wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:43 pm
westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:05 pm

I would recommend Montpellier, it is gorgeous and has a huge stadium
Yeah, Montpellier is a great trip
Yeah, but Montpellier aren't in our group.
I’ve no idea how the challenge cup works, tbh. I was just echoing the previous post’s sentiment!
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Heads up... I am about to list 4 Scotland Tonga tix on the resale site. Eur112 for the lot.
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charltom wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:16 pm Heads up... I am about to list 4 Scotland Tonga tix on the resale site. Eur112 for the lot.
Does the system work for you as a seller?

I love the idea behind the resale site but so far the system has been unbelievably shite for me trying to buy tickets.
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Fuck all detail, but sounds interesting

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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:46 am
charltom wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:16 pm Heads up... I am about to list 4 Scotland Tonga tix on the resale site. Eur112 for the lot.
Does the system work for you as a seller?

I love the idea behind the resale site but so far the system has been unbelievably shite for me trying to buy tickets.
Yes. Tickets have sold within 15 mins each time. No fees to me, a small one to the buyer in addition to face value.

I get back what I paid in euros, so lose out mildly because of Sterling strength.

Good site for sellers though, as long as they're not after a profit!
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Slick wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:30 pm Fuck all detail, but sounds interesting

Yeah, I think this is a good development. It should hopefully help with the struggles the U20s have been having if they are at least getting some decent preparation from having meaningful games with a consistent coaching setup.
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Being reported that Mike Blair is off to join Dave Rennie at Kobe Steelers
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Quite disappointed with that. Was hoping he'd stay as attack coach. On the positive side though maybe, for once, a new head coach is being allowed to appoint his staff.
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Yeah, I'm very disappointed, but the story in TOL states the club's position is that appointments will be made by the new head coach.

I'm rowing back a little on my position of not being concerned about the lack of news on the head coach and I have to hope that there is something in the pipeline
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:36 am Yeah, I'm very disappointed, but the story in TOL states the club's position is that appointments will be made by the new head coach.

I'm rowing back a little on my position of not being concerned about the lack of news on the head coach and I have to hope that there is something in the pipeline
Thats good then. Might also mean it's a big name (one that is able to make some stipulations) if there's someone in place that's bot been named. I'm not concerned yet but it surely couldn't do any harm to say if there's someone involved without giving out names. Assuming, of course, that is the case.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:36 am Yeah, I'm very disappointed, but the story in TOL states the club's position is that appointments will be made by the new head coach.

I'm rowing back a little on my position of not being concerned about the lack of news on the head coach and I have to hope that there is something in the pipeline
I dunno about the head coach thing but they are basically doing pre-season now without any attack/skills coaches in place with Gareth Barber already having gone.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:00 pm
Simian wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:43 pm
westport wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:05 pm

I would recommend Montpellier, it is gorgeous and has a huge stadium
Yeah, Montpellier is a great trip
Yeah, but Montpellier aren't in our group.
Maybe you’ll get them in a quarter final.
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2023 FOSROC Super Series Championship Fixtures

Round 1
Fri 28 July – Boroughmuir Bears v Heriot’s Rugby, 7.35pm
Fri 28 July – Southern Knights v FOSROC Future XV, 7.35pm
Sat 29 July – Ayrshire Bulls v Watsonians Rugby, 5.30pm

Round 2
Fri 4 August – Stirling Wolves v Ayrshire Bulls, 7.35pm
Fri 4 August – Watsonians Rugby v Southern Knights, 7.35pm
Sat 5 August – Boroughmuir Bears v FOSROC Future XV, 5.30pm

Round 3
Fri 11 August – Watsonians Rugby v Boroughmuir Bears, 7.35pm
Sat 12 August – Southern Knights v Ayrshire Bulls, 3pm
Sat 12 August – Heriot’s Rugby v Stirling Wolves, 5pm

Round 4
Fri 18 August – Ayrshire Bulls v Heriot’s Rugby, 7.35pm
Sat 19 August – Stirling Wolves v FOSROC Future XV, 3pm
Sat 19 August – Boroughmuir Bears v Southern Knights, 5pm

Round 5
Fri 25 August – Stirling Wolves v Watsonians Rugby, 7.35pm
Fri 25 August – Boroughmuir Bears v Ayrshire Bulls, 7.35pm
Sat 26 August – Heriot’s Rugby v FOSROC Future XV, 3pm*

Round 6
Fri 1 September – Watsonians Rugby v Heriot’s Rugby, 7.35pm
Sat 2 September – Southern Knights v Stirling Wolves, 3pm
Sat 2 September – Ayrshire Bulls v FOSROC Future XV, 5pm

Round 7
Fri 8 September – Stirling Wolves v Boroughmuir Bears, 7.35pm
Sat 9 September – Watsonians Rugby v FOSROC Future XV, 3pm
Sat 9 September – Heriot’s Rugby v Southern Knights, 5pm

Round 8
Fri 22 September – Watsonians Rugby v Ayrshire Bulls, 7.35pm
Sat 23 September – Heriot’s Rugby v Boroughmuir Bears, 3pm
Sat 23 September – Southern Knights v FOSROC Future XV, 5pm

Round 9
Fri 29 September – Boroughmuir Bears v FOSROC Future XV, 7.35pm
Sat 30 September – Southern Knights v Watsonians Rugby, 3pm
Sat 30 September – Ayrshire Bulls v Stirling Wolves, 5pm

Round 10
Fri 6 October – Ayrshire Bulls v Southern Knights, 7.35pm
Sat 7 October – Stirling Wolves v Heriot’s Rugby, 3pm
Sat 7 October – Boroughmuir Bears v Watsonians Rugby, 5pm

Round 11
Fri 13 October – Stirling Wolves v FOSROC Future XV, 7.35pm
Sat 14 October – Heriot’s Rugby v Ayrshire Bulls, 3pm
Sat 14 October – Southern Knights v Boroughmuir Bears, 5pm

Round 12
Fri 20 October – Ayrshire Bulls v Boroughmuir Bears, 7.35pm
Sat 21 October – Heriot’s Rugby v FOSROC Future XV, 3pm
Sat 21 October – Watsonians Rugby v Stirling Wolves, 5pm

Round 13
Fri 27 October – Stirling Wolves v Southern Knights, 7.35pm
Sat 28 October – Heriot’s Rugby v Watsonians Rugby, 3pm
Sat 28 October – Ayrshire Bulls v FOSROC Future XV, 5pm

Round 14
Fri 3 November – Southern Knights v Heriot’s Rugby, 7.35pm
Sat 4 November – Watsonians Rugby v FOSROC Future XV, 3pm
Sat 4 September – Boroughmuir Bears v Stirling Wolves, 5pm

Semi-Finals
Fri 10 November – 1st v 4th
Sat 11 November – 2nd v 3rd

Championship Final
Sat 18 November – Winner 1st v 4th v Winner 2nd v 3rd

*Please note an updated time, confirmed kick-off time for fixture is 3pm
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Was someone asking about the U20s? Game v Spain being shown here https://ferugby.web.enetres.net/
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U 20s did the job the other night. We absolutely have to win the U20 trophy next month.
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Les Kiss and Marius Goosen are apparently in the running for the embra job according to Jamie Lyall. I'd probably prefer the former out of those 2 but more because I don't know much about Goosen.
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Jock42 wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:22 pm Les Kiss and Marius Goosen are apparently in the running for the embra job according to Jamie Lyall. I'd probably prefer the former out of those 2 but more because I don't know much about Goosen.
Also don't know much about Goosen as a coach, but Kiss is superb. LI were on an upward trajectory on the pitch and the players all seemed to have a lot of time for him.
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Most will have seen the news on the academy intake for Edinburgh and Glasgow, but just in case

https://scottishrugby.org/2023-2024-con ... confirmed/
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U20's squad for Trophy in Kenya with UK broadcaster still to be announced.

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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:34 am Most will have seen the news on the academy intake for Edinburgh and Glasgow, but just in case

https://scottishrugby.org/2023-2024-con ... confirmed/
I can't say I know too much about these boys - the only ones I have really heard a lot about are the hooker Blyth-Lafferty (Jerry, the elder I think) and the flanker Liam McConnell about whom there is considerable buzz. I recognise plenty of the names but would be interested if anyone can pick out the ones to watch?
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Kerr Yule has looked useful whenever I've watched the FOSROC
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Jock42 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:21 am Quite disappointed with that. Was hoping he'd stay as attack coach. On the positive side though maybe, for once, a new head coach is being allowed to appoint his staff.
I think it is the sensible move for all parties.

Blair gets to go and experience another league with a HC he trusts and Edinburgh move on from being in a position with a former HC as a backs/attack coach that may not suit the new HC.

Not too worried about there being no HC yet. This part of pre season, which is still very early, will all be about fitness.
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Blimey. Greig Oliver, former Scotland scrum half, killed in a paragliding accident in South Africa.

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And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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RIP Greig, he was a lovely guy, thoughts with the family
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Biffer wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:24 pm Blimey. Greig Oliver, former Scotland scrum half, killed in a paragliding accident in South Africa.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-un ... nt-4206100
Just caught this on the news. Tragic. RIP
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Rowe signs for Glasgow.
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Really pleased for the bloke.

There's never a good time for your club to fail, but when you've not played for a year due to injury, it must be particularly nerve racking.
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Jesus Christ. I have just seen that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a non-exec director. I know that right-wing Unionists are over-represented in Scottish rugby, but they have actually lost their fucking minds with this one. Now every penny I spend on anything SRU branded will be contributing to Rape Clause Ruth’s pension fund.
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:03 pm Jesus Christ. I have just seen that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a non-exec director. I know that right-wing Unionists are over-represented in Scottish rugby, but they have actually lost their fucking minds with this one. Now every penny I spend on anything SRU branded will be contributing to Rape Clause Ruth’s pension fund.
I despise almost everything Ruth stands for, but I have to say its hard to be too critical of this appointment when compared to the usual blazers. An exceptionally talented and well connected gay woman who has had a very successful career and has managed a very large organisation pretty well rather than a random middle-aged white bloke who likely holds all the same right wing views. Tbh I would say they haven't done too badly, but happy to be shot down on this because, you know, Torries.
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Also, she can't claim she doesn't know the issues to be sorted:

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KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:11 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:03 pm Jesus Christ. I have just seen that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a non-exec director. I know that right-wing Unionists are over-represented in Scottish rugby, but they have actually lost their fucking minds with this one. Now every penny I spend on anything SRU branded will be contributing to Rape Clause Ruth’s pension fund.
I despise almost everything Ruth stands for, but I have to say its hard to be too critical of this appointment when compared to the usual blazers. An exceptionally talented and well connected gay woman who has had a very successful career and has managed a very large organisation pretty well rather than a random middle-aged white bloke who likely holds all the same right wing views. Tbh I would say they haven't done too badly, but happy to be shot down on this because, you know, Torries.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on ‘very successful’. She was inflated and platformed by the media to such an extent that many not clued in to Scottish politics thought she had won the election in Scotland, rather than finish a distant second. Then she ran away rather than face the music and lose her seat. Then she was given a peerage so she can have political influence for the rest of her life without ever facing the electorate again. But yeah, apart from that.
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:03 pm Jesus Christ. I have just seen that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a non-exec director. I know that right-wing Unionists are over-represented in Scottish rugby, but they have actually lost their fucking minds with this one. Now every penny I spend on anything SRU branded will be contributing to Rape Clause Ruth’s pension fund.
Ohh FFS. Having just laughed my way through a toxic Twitter thread I wasn’t expecting to see this nonsense here as well
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Slick wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:19 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:03 pm Jesus Christ. I have just seen that the SRU have appointed Ruth Davidson as a non-exec director. I know that right-wing Unionists are over-represented in Scottish rugby, but they have actually lost their fucking minds with this one. Now every penny I spend on anything SRU branded will be contributing to Rape Clause Ruth’s pension fund.
Ohh FFS. Having just laughed my way through a toxic Twitter thread I wasn’t expecting to see this nonsense here as well
I wish it were nonsense, but it isn’t. They did it. They actually appointed pretty much the most divisive person possible to the SRU board. Utterly toxic to most to the Scottish population. I’m sure she ticks plenty of boxes for the SRU, but she is about as tainted as they come. The SRU is putting two fingers up to the public with this one.

I haven’t been into the political thread for years, but the SRU have decided to make rugby political now, so here we are.
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Oh, and the sheer hypocrisy of Ruth bloody Davidson being appointed to any body purporting to represent Scotland is beyond belief. As far as she is concerned it’s nothing more than North Britain.

I won’t say I won’t attend any matches until she is gone, but I’ll think twice about it, and I certainly won’t be buying any merchandise.

Perhaps the ‘toxic’ Twitter thread might suggest how massively unpopular an appointment this will turn out to be.
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Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, :grin: she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.
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Tattie wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 5:32 pm Imagine the state of her when FoS is played pre game… never mind when we play England and she has the added stress of GSTK, :grin: she can’t win - traitor or hypocrite… probably both.

I’m very much a nationalist but overly political individuals should be kept away from sporting positions like this imo. I would feel the same if it was a high profile nationalist politician.

Huge own goal by the SRU imo. Not exactly doing much to dispel the view of rugby in Scotland as being elitist, non inclusive and, dare I say, right wing.
Can you imagine the outcry that would have ensued if they had announced they had appointed Alex Salmond?

I absolutely agree with you. I would be less offended by a pro-Indy politician, but I don’t think they would be any more appropriate an appointment.
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Will be interesting to see what both new Non-Exec directors bring. I would have stayed and would stay away from political appointments as most of them are arseholes.

I imagine their remits will be to do with media and equality and inclusion. Hopefully they bring good things to the table.
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