RWC QF4 France vs Springboks on 15/10 @ 21h00
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Stade de France.
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Suppose this will be as close to a final as it get.
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If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.
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It's so similar to peak NZ. Play nothing in your half unless it's really on. Kick deep and pressurise. Ball carrier nearly always has a support option either side of him. Nothing complicated but executed very well.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.
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Barnes to ref this one
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You accept this will be your last game at the RWC, ja.
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Ja , but can't blame Foster.
One thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?
When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.
Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.
Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.
Boks winning looks completely possible.
Oh, so are you supporting the Boks this week?OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.
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Bokke Allie padChilli wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:46 pmOh, so are you supporting the Boks this week?OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.
Got to support the boys.....this could be our last game ......
Ireland beating Scotland badly...places them on top of the current pile,
Lets hope the boys selected are on form on the day and no-one voks up with a card......so far we have been good with these , lets hope for no exception.
GO BOKKE
Ireland beating Scotland badly...places them on top of the current pile,
Lets hope the boys selected are on form on the day and no-one voks up with a card......so far we have been good with these , lets hope for no exception.
GO BOKKE
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Should be a tasty game. Both teams have weaknesses and the pressure on France will be immense.
I agree._Os_ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:57 pmOne thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?
When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.
Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.
Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.
Boks winning looks completely possible.
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He's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit
https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
We decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
Wait till the racist get's hurt accidentally in training and Willemse is called back.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 amHe's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit
https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
And he is face to face with quite few of our strongest guys, with Rassie's "Fcuk them up in front" still ringing in their ears...
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Dupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pmWe decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?
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Please make it so.......laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:18 pmWait till the racist get's hurt accidentally in training and Willemse is called back.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 amHe's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit
https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
Ball carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pmAnd so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.
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Coming back from injury like Pollard.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pmDupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pmWe decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am
Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?
It's kinda weird. You heard nothing about Am during this time and suddenly he is ready.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:57 pmComing back from injury like Pollard.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pmDupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.
As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?
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Victim blaming, eh. Nice.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:48 pmBall carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pmAnd so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.
I think Jalibert will fold under the pressure we bring_Os_ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:57 pmOne thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?
When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.
Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.
Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.
Boks winning looks completely possible.
I predict he's going to have a terrible game
It’s a joke, you silly sausage.Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:37 pmVictim blaming, eh. Nice.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:48 pmBall carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pm
And so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.