No such poetry as that encounter either, I don't expect that to improve any. There won't be any great aspirational speeches, I expect this to the worst, lowest, dirtiest campaign period ever with Labour constantly having to say no, they are not going to force 8 year olds to have gender reassignment surgeryHal Jordan wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:31 pm Sunak looked like Harrison Ford shitting himself as Roy Batty looms over him.
Although hopefully the only electorate lacks the basic humanity of an android and just chucks him off the building.
I quite deliberately left them out. Other than providing a second right wing option to split the vote they will be an electoral irrelevance. They haven't performed in the by-elections, they didn't perform in the locals, they are a nothing protest party given a disgraceful amount of attention by right wing UK press (which is most of it).
Yeah, ultimately whilst they poll well, when push comes to shove at a GE, you'd expect a decent chunk of their support will be voting Tory.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:08 pmI quite deliberately left them out. Other than providing a second right wing option to split the vote they will be an electoral irrelevance. They haven't performed in the by-elections, they didn't perform in the locals, they are a nothing protest party given a disgraceful amount of attention by right wing UK press (which is most of it).
It's going to be a shitshow for the next month. Thankfully I'm on holiday next week so will at least miss the opening shots.Tichtheid wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:44 pmNo such poetry as that encounter either, I don't expect that to improve any. There won't be any great aspirational speeches, I expect this to the worst, lowest, dirtiest campaign period ever with Labour constantly having to say no, they are not going to force 8 year olds to have gender reassignment surgeryHal Jordan wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:31 pm Sunak looked like Harrison Ford shitting himself as Roy Batty looms over him.
Although hopefully the only electorate lacks the basic humanity of an android and just chucks him off the building.
Will watch that in a bit, I have seen The Rest Is Politics' video about it all and Rory Stewart was getting texts from Conservative MPs and even a cabinet minister saying they had no idea what was going on. It does rather lend itself to the idea that he's decided this has stopped being in any way fun and just wants to fuck off to California in time for the new Yank school year.fishfoodie wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:58 pm
I think EM is spot on, the Head boy has given up & this was just him going; fuck it , I'm gone !.
As an aside, whoever is the Tory Election guru, he's stealing a living ! Today's announcement was the least professional Political speech I've ever seen; it made that speech by May, where the letters kept on dropping off the wall look like the Gettysburg Address.
I know Sunak is a hopeless Politician, but why in the name of Dog would you keep talking about the Opposition, in YOUR FUCKING ELECTION LAUNCH !!!!
The scuttlebutt is Labour had themselves fully prepped for a May election just in case, so I would imagine that a date that's still a month and a half away doesn't need to disrupt anyone's day to day all that much right now.Slick wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:18 pm Funnily enough I’m meeting our local Labour candidate for a coffee tomorrow on a completely different matter. I’m surprised he hasn’t called off to be honest
Probably only so much preparation you can do as they've destroyed the party the last four years.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:37 pmThe scuttlebutt is Labour had themselves fully prepped for a May election just in case, so I would imagine that a date that's still a month and a half away doesn't need to disrupt anyone's day to day all that much right now.Slick wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:18 pm Funnily enough I’m meeting our local Labour candidate for a coffee tomorrow on a completely different matter. I’m surprised he hasn’t called off to be honest
It's the Tories who weren't particularly prepared and are in quite short order going to have to sort a lot of stuff out, from candidates to leaflet printing.
Well, yes. I think they probably would've needed the expected next 5 - 6 months before an election to find enough people willing to stand when it's incredibly unlikely they'll win. The activists and willing door knockers will be way down after the disastrous local elections.I like neeps wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:44 pmProbably only so much preparation you can do as they've destroyed the party the last four years.sockwithaticket wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:37 pmThe scuttlebutt is Labour had themselves fully prepped for a May election just in case, so I would imagine that a date that's still a month and a half away doesn't need to disrupt anyone's day to day all that much right now.Slick wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:18 pm Funnily enough I’m meeting our local Labour candidate for a coffee tomorrow on a completely different matter. I’m surprised he hasn’t called off to be honest
It's the Tories who weren't particularly prepared and are in quite short order going to have to sort a lot of stuff out, from candidates to leaflet printing.
Labour with a big majority, record low turnout, I predict.
The Sun has to run with Drowning Street on the front page tomorrow.Insane_Homer wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:52 pm We're officially less than 1 LTP (Liz Truss Premiership) from the UK General Election.
Make sure all your friends & family know, & have the right ID to vote !Check if you have accepted photo ID
You’ll need one of the following types of photo ID to vote:
a UK or Northern Ireland photocard driving licence (full or provisional)
a driving licence issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, the Isle of Man or any of the Channel Islands
a UK passport
a passport issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or a Commonwealth country
a PASS card (National Proof of Age Standards Scheme)
a Blue Badge
a biometric residence permit (BRP)
a Defence Identity Card (MOD form 90)
a national identity card issued by the EU, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
a Northern Ireland Electoral Identity Card
a Voter Authority Certificate
an Anonymous Elector’s Document
You can also use one of the following travel passes as photo ID when you vote:
an older person’s bus pass
a disabled person’s bus pass
an Oyster 60+ card
a Freedom Pass
a Scottish National Entitlement Card (NEC)
a 60 and Over Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
a Disabled Person’s Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
a Northern Ireland concessionary travel pass
The photo on your ID must look like you. You can still use your ID even if it has expired.
First week of school holidays up here, a lot of people booked on holiday. So it’s not unreasonable for people to be a bit pissed about it.
They had three indicators they were watching to go positive to tell them it was time; Inflation, Interest Rates, & Rwanda._Os_ wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:28 pm From memory 3rd quarter 2024 election was the longest odds at the bookies. No one was picking this date.
Going asap means the Tories lose less seats, but that's been true since they got rid of Big Dog, more true since Truss, and more true for the last year of failure. On the other hand, if they were going to go in July why not May during the council elections? That would've probably helped their council vote, people don't need to use it as a protest if there's a general election to vote in, more Tories coming out to vote for a general election too and voting in a local election who wouldn't have. As it is the Tories were nuked in local elections, and now the remaining Tory activists will have to come out and do it all over again two months later.
Reports are even some cabinet ministers were not told and learned about it the same way as everyone else.
Looks like Sunak has decided "fuck this, I'm done".
I hadn't noticed this before. Anyone legally resident (as long as they're not in prison) can vote in a UK general election as long as they're British, Irish, or a Commonwealth citizen. It seems you can use a passport from somewhere disqualified from voting in this election to prove you can vote in the election.fishfoodie wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:24 pm Remember, don't let the bastards deny you your voice !!!
https://www.gov.uk/how-to-vote/photo-id-youll-need
Make sure all your friends & family know, & have the right ID to vote !Check if you have accepted photo ID
You’ll need one of the following types of photo ID to vote:
a UK or Northern Ireland photocard driving licence (full or provisional)
a driving licence issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, the Isle of Man or any of the Channel Islands
a UK passport
a passport issued by an EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or a Commonwealth country
a PASS card (National Proof of Age Standards Scheme)
a Blue Badge
a biometric residence permit (BRP)
a Defence Identity Card (MOD form 90)
a national identity card issued by the EU, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
a Northern Ireland Electoral Identity Card
a Voter Authority Certificate
an Anonymous Elector’s Document
You can also use one of the following travel passes as photo ID when you vote:
an older person’s bus pass
a disabled person’s bus pass
an Oyster 60+ card
a Freedom Pass
a Scottish National Entitlement Card (NEC)
a 60 and Over Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
a Disabled Person’s Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
a Northern Ireland concessionary travel pass
The photo on your ID must look like you. You can still use your ID even if it has expired.
Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no confidence in Sunak have been submitted to 1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady.
The senior Conservative MP told me: “Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted.
“In other words, if enough Tory MPs, who are clearly going to lose their seats in this already utterly shambolic campaign, write to Sir Graham Brady, tomorrow , the election could still be revoked.”
I was under the impression that the one absolute power that the PM had was to call a GE; was I wrong ?_Os_ wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:33 pm I wonder what GB News guy is saying about the loonies. Oh ...
Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no confidence in Sunak have been submitted to 1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady.
The senior Conservative MP told me: “Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted.
“In other words, if enough Tory MPs, who are clearly going to lose their seats in this already utterly shambolic campaign, write to Sir Graham Brady, tomorrow , the election could still be revoked.”
The constitutional position may be unclear on this. More than anything else though, the King may just tell them to piss off.fishfoodie wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:10 pmI was under the impression that the one absolute power that the PM had was to call a GE; was I wrong ?_Os_ wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:33 pm I wonder what GB News guy is saying about the loonies. Oh ...
Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no confidence in Sunak have been submitted to 1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady.
The senior Conservative MP told me: “Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted.
“In other words, if enough Tory MPs, who are clearly going to lose their seats in this already utterly shambolic campaign, write to Sir Graham Brady, tomorrow , the election could still be revoked.”
He doesn't need a vote of the house to call the GE, he just has to go to the Monarch & tell him that he's calling an Election, & that's that !
