The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

[C69]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

This is totally the sort of thing I would expect him to do
Fly back to England to brazenly defend his £2K lie
Worst of all leave Starmer there to act state man like with World leaders.
This is a real turning point where yet again he has shown himself up and now embarrassed the position of PM
A "bigoted woman" moment. More votes for Reform no doubt for this shameful unpatriotic snub.

[SaintK]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

This is totally the sort of thing I would expect him to do
Fly back to England to brazenly defend his £2K lie
Worst of all leave Starmer there to act state man like with World leaders.
This is a real turning point where yet again he has shown himself up and now embarrassed the position of PM
A "bigoted woman" moment. More votes for Reform no doubt for this shameful unpatriotic snub.

He has zero political instinct and is being advised by morons.
He and the Tories deserve everything that's coming to them.

[C69]

He is now at a new nadir. Does he actually want to be booed in the streets?

[Jock42]

Sunak and his ilk can fuck right off (not that they were getting my vote anyway), fucking off early when you should be paying your respects on a day like yesterday is shameful but not unexpected. What an opportunity to spend an afternoon chatting to 40 veterans involved.

[Sandstorm]

Sunak and his ilk can't fuck right off (not that they were getting my vote anyway) but fucking off early when you should be paying your respects on a day like yesterday is shameful but not unexpected. What an opportunity to spend an afternoon chatting to 40 veterans involved.

Why? Those 40 votes are already in the bag.

[I like neeps]

When you go to public school, the city of London, and then become a non dom you're really not at all bothered about the little people. Sunak has no love for Britain, much like any parasite has no love for its host.

[Slick]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

The advice he has been getting for the last 12 months has been absolutely appalling, just unbelievably shite time and time again. Is he just ignoring it or are they genuinely that bad? I think a couple of the senior advisors are from similar background to him. From a purely political point, who thought leaving the leader of the opposition there to hoover up the photo ops was a good idea, why the hell did no one think of that?

Usually these things are overblown with a lot of confected outrage, but this is genuinely shocking and unforgivable for many reasons.

For looking like he'd nailed Starmer for about an hour the other night, this week is the absolutely final nail in his coffin.

[inactionman]

In the video that Zelensky has circulated, the UK is represented by the Leader of the Opposition.

I'm one-third outraged, one-third sad, and one-third actuality quite glad it wasn't that bunch of sharks representing us.

The end of Rishi Rich as PM can't come quickly enough.

[inactionman]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

The advice he has been getting for the last 12 months has been absolutely appalling, just unbelievably shite time and time again. Is he just ignoring it or are they genuinely that bad? I think a couple of the senior advisors are from similar background to him. From a purely political point, who thought leaving the leader of the opposition there to hoover up the photo ops was a good idea, why the hell did no one think of that?

Usually these things are overblown with a lot of confected outrage, but this is genuinely shocking and unforgivable for many reasons.

For looking like he'd nailed Starmer for about an hour the other night, this week is the absolutely final nail in his coffin.

You get the feeling he's checked out already. It's all so casual and half-arsed.

Even so, it's unforgivable for a PM or any senior leader to act in that way. i was pissed off with Corbyn for such a silly lack of attention to the meaning and significance of commemoration, at least he was bloody there for it.

[dpedin]

When you go to public school, the city of London, and then become a non dom you're really not at all bothered about the little people. Sunak has no love for Britain, much like any parasite has no love for its host.

Sunak is now toast that has been burnt so much it has been set alight and burning the house down! I would be surprised if he lasted to polling day! Pissing off the US, France and Germany in one day is a real achievement! Someone needs to take his spade and those of his advisors away pretty quickly.

After tonights debate I can see dodgy blackshirts Reform Ltd edging past the Tories in the polls tomorrow which will spell the end of them. Farage will not believe his luck at the moment and must think all his Christmases have come at once. TBF he saw the writing on the wall and played his trump card at the right time.

I am now even more certain that the Tories will split into two post election defeat and many will run to join Reform, or perhaps renamed as the NatC Party, and set up a new right wing, populist, racist, fascist party with Farage at his head with Brakeman, Patel, Tice, Anderson, Gullis, Kruger and all the other right wing nutters as his team. They will issue a 'call to arms' to fight the communist, woke, EU friendly, North London, avocado eating, tofu snaffling, gender benders of the left wing Labour Party and will be praying for a Trump win in the US election. A new culture war will emerge, one much more dangerous than currently. The One Nation Tories will struggle to recreate the old fashioned traditional Tory Party and become the new Lib Dems, they may even join them. The Tory infighting will be hilarious to watch post election but will be scary for this country if Farage succeeds and creates a UK version of the Republican Party!

[inactionman]

I really worry about where the Tories are heading. At least Cameron was a serious politician, and May had a sense of duty about her. Boris, Truss and Rishi. Good God, who in the party thought they were in any way appropriate? We've also had utter disgraces like Braverman in leading roles.


I watch what's going on the US through my fingers, with the sensible Republicans just losing the party to a bunch if dogmatic and self-serging idiots, but it's happening here too.

[Paddington Bear]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

The advice he has been getting for the last 12 months has been absolutely appalling, just unbelievably shite time and time again. Is he just ignoring it or are they genuinely that bad? I think a couple of the senior advisors are from similar background to him. From a purely political point, who thought leaving the leader of the opposition there to hoover up the photo ops was a good idea, why the hell did no one think of that?

Usually these things are overblown with a lot of confected outrage, but this is genuinely shocking and unforgivable for many reasons.

For looking like he'd nailed Starmer for about an hour the other night, this week is the absolutely final nail in his coffin.

Yeah this isn’t a case where a camera catches him looking bored at the Cenotaph, it’s a massive slap in the face to the nation on what was, let’s face it, a farewell to that generation.

You could vaguely understand how a Corbyn style PM might have no one who grasps the severity of this around him, I cannot get how no one around a Tory PM hits the roof on this (and as has been said, at least Jez turned up). I’ve been a total wipeout sceptic but his total lack of political acumen, poor advisors and Farage’s return starts to make it look very possible

[tabascoboy]

[dpedin]

Good grief - if it is true that he originally intended not to go at all then he should resign immediately! He is such a self serving, self entitled, egotistical cunt of a man!

Serious question - Can the Tory Party get rid of him during an election? I imagine there is a majority who would be more than happy to take the risk!

[Biffer]

I am utterly, utterly flabbergasted that 1) he thought this was in any way acceptable and 2) his advisors didn’t stop him. The man has zero political instinct, zero.

This is before the obvious element that attending such an event is both an honour and a duty. Speechless

The advice he has been getting for the last 12 months has been absolutely appalling, just unbelievably shite time and time again. Is he just ignoring it or are they genuinely that bad? I think a couple of the senior advisors are from similar background to him. From a purely political point, who thought leaving the leader of the opposition there to hoover up the photo ops was a good idea, why the hell did no one think of that?

Usually these things are overblown with a lot of confected outrage, but this is genuinely shocking and unforgivable for many reasons.

For looking like he'd nailed Starmer for about an hour the other night, this week is the absolutely final nail in his coffin.

Yeah this isn’t a case where a camera catches him looking bored at the Cenotaph, it’s a massive slap in the face to the nation on what was, let’s face it, a farewell to that generation.

You could vaguely understand how a Corbyn style PM might have no one who grasps the severity of this around him, I cannot get how no one around a Tory PM hits the roof on this (and as has been said, at least Jez turned up). I’ve been a total wipeout sceptic but his total lack of political acumen, poor advisors and Farage’s return starts to make it look very possible

The Tory party has fundamentally changed. Effect of the move to the right and Johnson's leadership. Tradition, precedent, none of that is important if it stops them getting stuff done - so it stops being important at all. But their core membership is still the country shires retirees, to whom this does matter. Current leadership know to push a policy button or wave a flag and the members will lap it up, but they couldn't give a flying fuck about it.

[salanya]

A pm who could choose exactly when to announce an election, with the opportunity to plan around his commitments and opportunities.

One of those rare occasions where as pm you can proudly represent your country without political questions or games. Even play up the international statesman persona.

And he manages to screw it up.

I don't think highly of him as a politician, but this is just appalling judgement. Awful guidance by advisors (if it was them) but any sensible person would have overruled this. All for the sake of a few hours of electioneering.

[Hal Jordan]

Then again, it's sensible to have a handover when leaving a job.

"Hey world leaders, as you know I'm leaving my job on 5 July. My replacement Keir is here. I'm off home now but he'll stay and chat."

[Biffer]

A nice simpole explainer of what Rishi Sunak did before becoming a politician. As told by Jon Richardson, having a beer, in a bubble bath.

[Paddington Bear]

https://x.com/DachshundColin/status/1798974784140718084

[sockwithaticket]

I'm not sure it's quite as appealing as when Margot Robbie did it in The Big Short, but very good nonetheless.

[I like neeps]

"Labour have announced a new "freedom to buy" housing scheme, which would make the government a guarantor for those buying a house with a 5% deposit"

Plus ça change.

[inactionman]

I looked at the wiki page on the current Downing Street press secretary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_Chesterfield

Chesterfield worked for Dominic Cummings at Vote Leave during the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum.[2] In 2018 she became communications manager at the Institute for Economic Affairs.[3] In 2019 she worked under Liz Truss at the Department for International Trade as a media special adviser.[4] After working for Rishi Sunak as a media adviser, she was appointed Downing Street Press Secretary when he became prime minister in October 2022.[5][6]

On 1 September 2023, she replaced Amber de Botton as Downing Street Director of Communications.[7]

Yikes. No wonder all the messaging is so tin-eared.

[TB63]

“Midway during the D-Day celebrations in Normandy, I took a walk around the town and came across a lovely Victorian railway station, and I accidentally boarded a train to a local aerodrome, where I tripped and fell into a helicopter which took me to London.”

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[sturginho]

I'm not sure it's quite as appealing as when Margot Robbie did it in The Big Short, but very good nonetheless.

I doubt she was available

[C69]

When you go to public school, the city of London, and then become a non dom you're really not at all bothered about the little people. Sunak has no love for Britain, much like any parasite has no love for its host.

Sunak is now toast that has been burnt so much it has been set alight and burning the house down! I would be surprised if he lasted to polling day! Pissing off the US, France and Germany in one day is a real achievement! Someone needs to take his spade and those of his advisors away pretty quickly.

After tonights debate I can see dodgy blackshirts Reform Ltd edging past the Tories in the polls tomorrow which will spell the end of them. Farage will not believe his luck at the moment and must think all his Christmases have come at once. TBF he saw the writing on the wall and played his trump card at the right time.

I am now even more certain that the Tories will split into two post election defeat and many will run to join Reform, or perhaps renamed as the NatC Party, and set up a new right wing, populist, racist, fascist party with Farage at his head with Brakeman, Patel, Tice, Anderson, Gullis, Kruger and all the other right wing nutters as his team. They will issue a 'call to arms' to fight the communist, woke, EU friendly, North London, avocado eating, tofu snaffling, gender benders of the left wing Labour Party and will be praying for a Trump win in the US election. A new culture war will emerge, one much more dangerous than currently. The One Nation Tories will struggle to recreate the old fashioned traditional Tory Party and become the new Lib Dems, they may even join them. The Tory infighting will be hilarious to watch post election but will be scary for this country if Farage succeeds and creates a UK version of the Republican Party!

Yeah Farage to unite the right with a Canada style relaunch.
It's fucking hilarious . Sunak the liar, the tax evader and now the anti patriotic D day veteran ignoring cnut.
This is going to run and run.
When are the Reform defections going to happen?

[sturginho]

When you go to public school, the city of London, and then become a non dom you're really not at all bothered about the little people. Sunak has no love for Britain, much like any parasite has no love for its host.

Sunak is now toast that has been burnt so much it has been set alight and burning the house down! I would be surprised if he lasted to polling day! Pissing off the US, France and Germany in one day is a real achievement! Someone needs to take his spade and those of his advisors away pretty quickly.

After tonights debate I can see dodgy blackshirts Reform Ltd edging past the Tories in the polls tomorrow which will spell the end of them. Farage will not believe his luck at the moment and must think all his Christmases have come at once. TBF he saw the writing on the wall and played his trump card at the right time.

I am now even more certain that the Tories will split into two post election defeat and many will run to join Reform, or perhaps renamed as the NatC Party, and set up a new right wing, populist, racist, fascist party with Farage at his head with Brakeman, Patel, Tice, Anderson, Gullis, Kruger and all the other right wing nutters as his team. They will issue a 'call to arms' to fight the communist, woke, EU friendly, North London, avocado eating, tofu snaffling, gender benders of the left wing Labour Party and will be praying for a Trump win in the US election. A new culture war will emerge, one much more dangerous than currently. The One Nation Tories will struggle to recreate the old fashioned traditional Tory Party and become the new Lib Dems, they may even join them. The Tory infighting will be hilarious to watch post election but will be scary for this country if Farage succeeds and creates a UK version of the Republican Party!

Yeah Farage to unite the right with a Canada style relaunch.
It's fucking hilarious . Sunak the liar, the tax evader and now the anti patriotic D day veteran ignoring cnut.
This is going to run and run.
When are the Reform defections going to happen?

Deadline for nominations is today isn't it?

[C69]

Sunak is now toast that has been burnt so much it has been set alight and burning the house down! I would be surprised if he lasted to polling day! Pissing off the US, France and Germany in one day is a real achievement! Someone needs to take his spade and those of his advisors away pretty quickly.

After tonights debate I can see dodgy blackshirts Reform Ltd edging past the Tories in the polls tomorrow which will spell the end of them. Farage will not believe his luck at the moment and must think all his Christmases have come at once. TBF he saw the writing on the wall and played his trump card at the right time.

I am now even more certain that the Tories will split into two post election defeat and many will run to join Reform, or perhaps renamed as the NatC Party, and set up a new right wing, populist, racist, fascist party with Farage at his head with Brakeman, Patel, Tice, Anderson, Gullis, Kruger and all the other right wing nutters as his team. They will issue a 'call to arms' to fight the communist, woke, EU friendly, North London, avocado eating, tofu snaffling, gender benders of the left wing Labour Party and will be praying for a Trump win in the US election. A new culture war will emerge, one much more dangerous than currently. The One Nation Tories will struggle to recreate the old fashioned traditional Tory Party and become the new Lib Dems, they may even join them. The Tory infighting will be hilarious to watch post election but will be scary for this country if Farage succeeds and creates a UK version of the Republican Party!

Yeah Farage to unite the right with a Canada style relaunch.
It's fucking hilarious . Sunak the liar, the tax evader and now the anti patriotic D day veteran ignoring cnut.
This is going to run and run.
When are the Reform defections going to happen?

Deadline for nominations is today isn't it?

5 PM

Could be interesting

[Hal Jordan]

"Labour have announced a new "freedom to buy" housing scheme, which would make the government a guarantor for those buying a house with a 5% deposit"

Plus ça change.

Gotta keep pumping the PEDs into the housing market.

[tabascoboy]

Interesting point raised, how will she weasel out of this? Farage and the others have a clear attack point on Sunak, defend him and it's total hypocrisy

Existential career choice for Penny Mordaunt tonight.

Fundamentally if she attends tonight’s debate and defends Rishi Sunak after the utter contempt he’s shown for Veterans then she defies everything she stands for and abandons any hopes of ever leading her party on future.

[sturginho]

[sturginho]

[Hal Jordan]

Has Laura K informed us of how this is a bad thing for Starmer yet?

[fishfoodie]

Can someone please take the shovel away from him ?

Rishi Sunak has claimed his opponents are politicising D-Day events as he hit back at those criticising him for leaving a memorial in Normandy early for a TV interview.

The prime minister said that he had participated in a number of events over the past two days to honour those who had “risked their lives to defend our freedom”.

“The itinerary for these events was set weeks ago before the start of the general election campaign, and having participated in all the British events with British veterans, I returned home before the international leaders event later in the day,” he told broadcasters on a visit to Wiltshire on Friday morning.

“On reflection, that was a mistake and I apologise,” he added.

“I think it’s important though, given the enormity of the sacrifice made, that we don’t politicise this. The focus should rightly be on the veterans who gave so much.”

I don't know if his advisors are stealing a living, or he's just so egotistical that he doesn't listen to anyone elses opinion.

[C69]

Can someone please take the shovel away from him ?

Rishi Sunak has claimed his opponents are politicising D-Day events as he hit back at those criticising him for leaving a memorial in Normandy early for a TV interview.

The prime minister said that he had participated in a number of events over the past two days to honour those who had “risked their lives to defend our freedom”.

“The itinerary for these events was set weeks ago before the start of the general election campaign, and having participated in all the British events with British veterans, I returned home before the international leaders event later in the day,” he told broadcasters on a visit to Wiltshire on Friday morning.

“On reflection, that was a mistake and I apologise,” he added.

“I think it’s important though, given the enormity of the sacrifice made, that we don’t politicise this. The focus should rightly be on the veterans who gave so much.”

I don't know if his advisors are stealing a living, or he's just so egotistical that he doesn't listen to anyone elses opinion.

He really isn't reading the room.
He is going to be hammered time and time again over this.
Yes let's all move on...

[I like neeps]

Has Laura K informed us of how this is a bad thing for Starmer yet?

She did actually
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/179896 ... -DuLw&s=19

Genuinely a parody of a journalist.

[I like neeps]

"Labour have announced a new "freedom to buy" housing scheme, which would make the government a guarantor for those buying a house with a 5% deposit"

Plus ça change.

Gotta keep pumping the PEDs into the housing market.

And a neat illustration of their commitment to reforming anything.

[robmatic]

"Labour have announced a new "freedom to buy" housing scheme, which would make the government a guarantor for those buying a house with a 5% deposit"

Plus ça change.

Yes, what we need is even more demand in the housing market. This, and a vague promise to build some houses as long as it's not in anyone's back yard.

[_Os_]

On Sunak and his advisors ...

This is an odd time to have an election. No one was picking 3rd quarter it was the longest odds at the bookies. The dates which made sense were the same day as the local election, or autumn. Not immediately after the local elections you were always going to do poorly in forcing all your activists out again after that defeat, during the Euros when England have a competitive team and you're behind in the polls and need media exposure.

Sunak is known to have overruled his advisors on the election date.

I think Sunak has rich man syndrome. Some rich people believe because they're rich they can do anything, they then discount what the experts they've bought are telling them. They end up going full Dunning Kruger and doing stupid stuff. It's particularly bad in politics because it seems to lack technical skill, if a mechanic gets it wrong the car doesn't start, things aren't normally as obvious with politics. But doing politics well requires a high degree of skill in a broad range of areas. Successful businessmen are often a fuck up when they decide to go into politics, not humble enough.

Of course Sunak was told "do not leave the D-Day event early". Any moron could tell him that, and the people he's hired aren't morons.

[tabascoboy]

Have to be cautious of what you see on Twitter of course with an overabundance of bots and trolls, but severely depressing to see many claiming the Tories are " left wing" and Reform now the true party for Tories...

Anyway,

[C69]

Farage is going to eviscerate Mordant over unpatriotic Veteran ignoring Sunak.