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I think Scotland are better than you're all letting on.

Fiji is one of those tricky sides where wins against them can always feel unsatisfying.

The Boks have lost two games this year, and I'm sure Townsend will be taking a lot from them.

Be within touching distance at halftime and diffuse the subs when they come on. Disrupt our 9 and 10. Compete at the lineout.
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assfly wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:56 pm
Be within touching distance at halftime and diffuse the subs when they come on. Disrupt our 9 and 10. Compete at the lineout.
Give away kickable penalties in the first half.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:58 pm
assfly wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:56 pm
Be within touching distance at halftime and diffuse the subs when they come on. Disrupt our 9 and 10. Compete at the lineout.
Give away kickable penalties in the first half.
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assfly wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:58 pm
Slick wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:15 pm Who's life and career is getting ruined this weekend?
Depends on who starts in Scotland's front row.
Decent comeback :lol:
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assfly wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:56 pm I think Scotland are better than you're all letting on.

Fiji is one of those tricky sides where wins against them can always feel unsatisfying.

The Boks have lost two games this year, and I'm sure Townsend will be taking a lot from them.

Be within touching distance at halftime and diffuse the subs when they come on. Disrupt our 9 and 10. Compete at the lineout.
We weren't really playing Fiji, we were playing the Drua. None of their internationals playing in England or France were released.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Russell is going to run rings around our defense. WP Nel knows well.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:35 pm Russell is going to run rings around our defense. WP Nel knows well.
At least this bit is true.

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Slick wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:42 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:35 pm Russell is going to run rings around our defense.
At least this bit is true.

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I can't remember Russell having a blinder against the Boks. He's overdue. Cnut.
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Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
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westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
Is Steyn injured at the moment as well?
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Slick wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:21 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
Is Steyn injured at the moment as well?
Yip he is out for a few more weeks
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westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
Not seen an update on Rowe yet
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boere wors wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:57 am Do we get the squad announced today?
It's a Sunday game, so maybe tomorrow. 🤔
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
Kinghorn on wing and Jordan at FB?
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Big D wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:41 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
Kinghorn on wing and Jordan at FB?
He was good there against an understrength Fiji, and i wouldnt be flapping if he plays there again, but I'd rather best FB and next best winger, either of which are better on the wing than Jordan is at FB.
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I foresee little changes in the team that played against Fiji

I suspect Toonie will go for the following ( not the team that I would put out )

Forwards ; Pierre Schoeman, Ewan Ashman, Zander Fagerson, Grant Gilchrist, Scott Cummings, Matt Fagerson, Rory Darge, Jack Dempsey.

Backs Ben White , Finn Russell ,Duhan van der Merwe Sione Tuipulotu, Huw Jones, Kyle Rowe( if fit , Aaron Reed if not ), Blair Kinghorn

Subs - Dylan Richardson, Rory Sutherland, D’Arcy Rae, Max Williamson, Jamie Ritchie , Jamie Dobie, Tom Jordan, Stafford McDowall. If he goes with a 5/3 split , potentially he could go for a 6 /2 , a la Franco in which case McDowall drops out

Dobie & Jordan will not start, Toonie will not start Jordan in his 2nd cap against RSA. I think Brown will drop out of the subs either Ritchie , or possibly Muncaster replacing him.

Kinghorn was poor against Bayonne, hopefully that’s it out of his system

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:51 pm
boere wors wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:57 am Do we get the squad announced today?
It's a Sunday game, so maybe tomorrow. 🤔
No team announcement = day ruined. :thumbdown:
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
I agree.

Rowe is apparently likely to be all right, mind.
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So, checkers 60/60 kit, or do we have a new away kit?
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Big D wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:41 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm
westport wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 pm Darcy Graham out of this weekend's game against South Africa

The winger scored four tries in the win over Fiji, but failed a head injury assessment (HIA) after being replaced in the second half.

Head coach Gregor Townsend confirmed Graham has failed his subsequent HIA tests and will miss the visit of the world champions to Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

He said: “Darcy unfortunately failed his HI2 and his HI3, so he'll be ruled out for this weekend."

Missing the chance to face the world champions is another blow for Graham, who has missed most of the last 12 months with injury.
That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
Kinghorn on wing and Jordan at FB?
Nah, you play your best players in their best position
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_Os_ wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:51 pm
boere wors wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:57 am Do we get the squad announced today?
It's a Sunday game, so maybe tomorrow. 🤔
No team announcement = day ruined. :thumbdown:
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average joe wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:05 am So, checkers 60/60 kit, or do we have a new away kit?
Does anyone actually like the checkers 60 60 kit
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boere wors wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:00 am
_Os_ wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:51 pm
It's a Sunday game, so maybe tomorrow. 🤔
No team announcement = day ruined. :thumbdown:
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I like it. The later the better
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Slick wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:57 am
Big D wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:41 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:32 pm

That's a pity. Is Rowe injured too? I'd be tempted to start Reed Iver Rowe anyway.
Kinghorn on wing and Jordan at FB?
Nah, you play your best players in their best position
Exactly. Taht moving to cover bullshit is why we never saw what Mossy could really have become.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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average joe wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:05 am So, checkers 60/60 kit, or do we have a new away kit?
I hope they get away from that kit. Though I doubt it will happen before the next WC, they seem to always continue with the WC away kits for the next 4 years. Hopefully they will go back to the White one before that, Right now I much rather they have a yellow kit similar to Banana Bafana as an away kit than that Checkers monstrosity.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:13 am
Slick wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:57 am
Big D wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:41 pm

Kinghorn on wing and Jordan at FB?
Nah, you play your best players in their best position
Exactly. Taht moving to cover bullshit is why we never saw what Mossy could really have become.
Arguably Kinghorn's best position is wing. Now playing on wing plenty for Toulouse, particularly when they go full noise.

As it is Rowe has more of a chance of playing when I posted my suggestion so he should start if fit.
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Look like we may see a bit of AE and Mapimpi in this test. The best Springbok plan would be to play conservative and strong defense in the first half and load the bom squad with gamebreakers like Ox, Marx, Koch, RG Snyman, Willie, Libbok, exc
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:54 am Look like we may see a bit of AE and Mapimpi in this test. The best Springbok plan would be to play conservative and strong defense in the first half and load the bom squad with gamebreakers like Ox, Marx, Koch, RG Snyman, Willie, Libbok, exc
Finishing with Libbok is a disaster

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Sards wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:08 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:54 am Look like we may see a bit of AE and Mapimpi in this test. The best Springbok plan would be to play conservative and strong defense in the first half and load the bom squad with gamebreakers like Ox, Marx, Koch, RG Snyman, Willie, Libbok, exc
Finishing with Libbok is a disaster

Will we ever learn
Hendricks to do the kicking, like last time.
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Rugby World Cup-winning lock Jean Kleyn will join the Springboks in Edinburgh on Friday as a replacement for Ruan Nortje, who suffered a leg injury at training on Wednesday, which ruled him out of the Castle Lager Outgoing Tour.

The 31-year-old Kleyn, who earned his seventh Test cap for the Springboks in the RWC final against New Zealand in France last year, returns to the national team for the first time this season after making a return to the Vodacom United Rugby Championship in September for Irish club Munster following a lengthy spell on the sidelines due to an eye injury.

Nortje – who made a strong statement in the Boks’ engine room this season which saw him assist the team to the Castle Lager Rugby Championship title – hurt his leg during Wednesday’s field training session, and with only three Test matches on this tour, Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus opted to draft Kleyn into the travelling squad.

Kleyn’s international experience with five Test matches to his name for Ireland and seven for the Springbok as well as a RWC title, adds valuable experience to the Bok lock stocks for the tour, where he joins the likes of RG Snyman, Franco Mostert and Eben Etzebeth.

“It’s sad to lose Ruan to injury, as he’s had a fantastic season and really made a strong statement after injuries initially prompted his call-up to the squad,” said Erasmus. “He certainly grabbed the opportunity with both hands, and we wish him luck with his recovery.”

Erasmus added: “Ruan’s injury opens the door for Jean to make a return to the national squad for the first time this season, and judging by his performances for Munster since making a comeback to the Vodacom URC combined with his familiarity of our structures and being a regular in our team last season, we are excited to welcome him back.

“He’s also played with most of the players in the squad and is familiar with the conditions in the UK as he’s based in Ireland, so he should slot in with ease.”

Erasmus will name his matchday team to face Scotland on Friday.
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Big D wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:32 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:13 am
Slick wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:57 am

Nah, you play your best players in their best position
Exactly. Taht moving to cover bullshit is why we never saw what Mossy could really have become.
Arguably Kinghorn's best position is wing. Now playing on wing plenty for Toulouse, particularly when they go full noise.

As it is Rowe has more of a chance of playing when I posted my suggestion so he should start if fit.
I'm not sure his best position is wing however, the way Scotland (and Toulouse) play, it does get him on the ball a lot so I can just about see the argument even if I don't agree with it.
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That's a real shame for Nortje, he's done so well to push his way into the team with some serious depth. I heard he was going to start against Scotland.

But not a bad replacement to call up.
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boere wors wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:02 pm
Slick wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:49 pm
boere wors wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:28 pm Scotland in November??? Miserable.
It's actually looking quite nice for Sunday at the moment.

15 degrees, sunny, bit of a wind but nothing much. It will change though.
Just checked the weather app. Decent, calm weather the whole week :thumbup:
It's changing...
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Slick wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:20 pm
It's changing...
Indeed. Small chance of a shower around kickoff.
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Having watched Scotland live last weekend - admittedly through pub crawl eyes - SA will demolish them. Too big, too fast and too strong.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:32 pm Having watched Scotland live last weekend - admittedly through pub crawl eyes - SA will demolish them. Too big, too fast and too strong.
Yep. This false modesty on the part of springbok fans is just such a pile of wank.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:36 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:32 pm Having watched Scotland live last weekend - admittedly through pub crawl eyes - SA will demolish them. Too big, too fast and too strong.
Yep. This false modesty on the part of springbok fans is just such a pile of wank.
It is funny....SA are so far above the rest of the world right now (maybe hand in hand with Ireland) that the fact they aren't even talking about fielding 2nd string sides for experience is amusing.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:25 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:20 pm
It's changing...
Indeed. Small chance of a shower around kickoff.
Wind picking up a little and sun gone as well.
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