2025 6N thread

[el capitan]

Basically the epitome of Borthwick's England that.

Some good defence, some shit defence.

Brief glimpses we could be useful as a team with ball in hand, but mostly clueless, negative, and pretty rubbish. Only really playing when absolutely forced to and/or the game is done and opposition easing down.

As per many of my posts... bin the useless lump, yesterday.

[Conor]

That was England's big performance. Brave.

[Slick]

Yeah? Bet you can't tell me the 3rd one.

The one just before his yellow, Aki, and one on the opposite side

Nope. The one before his yellow when he got done by the footwork, the Aki one, and a regulation bump in midfield that got Ireland an extra yard before the player got gang tackled.

Look, this is a very silly discussion. The guy has shown time and time again that despite his slight stature, his defence is good enough for international rugby. A high profile steamroller like that doesn't change it. I know you like to make the most of these situations but as always you're over reaching, particularly given everyone else you've mentioned having quite obviously poor games in defence today.

Listen mate, as payback for getting a quiet house to watch the Scotland game I had 2 kids in the room with me, one spent the whole game trying to make me play the part of disabled Barbie in her game and the other was doing naked headstands whilst slapping his arse in front of the TV so, no, I can’t give you the exact timings. But I stand by it, now let’s move on.

[Tichtheid]

To state the bleeding obvious, the fact that Ireland have France at home is huge.

We saw a second/third gear France at best last night, they will get better. I think Ireland will too.

France's midfield was very bad and they were in general extremely slack against Wales. Far too easy for them. Very hard to tell if they will step it up or not. Should be a fun tournament.

Torque's stopped clock was right on Ntamack last night but he won't be around for a couple of weeks at least. Jalibert should make a difference, if he gets picked.

[ASMO]

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Mitchell had a shocker, so did Slade in the tackle stats

[Tichtheid]

Listen mate, as payback for getting a quiet house to watch the Scotland game I had 2 kids in the room with me, one spent the whole game trying to make me play the part of disabled Barbie in her game and the other was doing naked headstands whilst slapping his arse in front of the TV so, no, I can’t give you the exact timings. But I stand by it, now let’s move on.

University still not back yet?

[Slick]

Listen mate, as payback for getting a quiet house to watch the Scotland game I had 2 kids in the room with me, one spent the whole game trying to make me play the part of disabled Barbie in her game and the other was doing naked headstands whilst slapping his arse in front of the TV so, no, I can’t give you the exact timings. But I stand by it, now let’s move on.

University still not back yet?

[Conor]

Prendergast (33% tackle success) and Crawley (50%) definitely on the plane due to their superior tackling

Irritating collapse in the second half.

You never give a source for these stats that you ̶p̶l̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶s̶e̶ quote on here.

Espnscrum.com for the internationals. Knock yourself out

https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats? ... gue=180659

Off:
3 tackles and 2 tackles.

Sort your sample size out. You are a disgrace to science.

[Slick]

You never give a source for these stats that you ̶p̶l̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶s̶e̶ quote on here.

Espnscrum.com for the internationals. Knock yourself out

https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats? ... gue=180659

Off:
3 tackles and 2 tackles.

Sort your sample size out. You are a disgrace to science.

You joke, but this is the constant issue with JMK, he throws stats about whilst completely ignoring the context of the game

[JM2K6]

You never give a source for these stats that you ̶p̶l̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶s̶e̶ quote on here.

Espnscrum.com for the internationals. Knock yourself out

https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats? ... gue=180659

Off:
3 tackles and 2 tackles.

Sort your sample size out. You are a disgrace to science.

Oh I'm sorry, was I supposed to use stats from some other game when discussing how bonkers it was to suggest all the other 10s were ahead based on tackling in today's matches?

[Punter15]

Huw Jones has to be a nailed in Lions tourist, i would argue a nailed on starter in the tests

My favourite player of the last few years, he is absolute class but went under the radar for a long time. Would love to see him in a Lions team

Could not agree more. Superb player.

[Brazil]

Espnscrum.com for the internationals. Knock yourself out

https://www.espn.com/rugby/playerstats? ... gue=180659

Off:
3 tackles and 2 tackles.

Sort your sample size out. You are a disgrace to science.

You joke, but this is the constant issue with JMK, he throws stats about whilst completely ignoring the context of the game

Fair point, he should just go off guy instinct whilst playing with Barbie dolls.

[JM2K6]

My guy instinct is extremely well developed

[Punter15]

Huw Jones's strong Scottish brogue makes it difficult to understand some of his words.

You constantly sound like a cunt but I’d still say you were English

Never understood people who would rather be known as a cunt and a racist than not known at all.

Poor old Beryl, no idea why she puts up with him.

[Blackmac]

Listen mate, as payback for getting a quiet house to watch the Scotland game I had 2 kids in the room with me, one spent the whole game trying to make me play the part of disabled Barbie in her game and the other was doing naked headstands whilst slapping his arse in front of the TV so, no, I can’t give you the exact timings. But I stand by it, now let’s move on.

University still not back yet?

Jesus. Almost choked on my pizza. That's an old fashioned boardie right there.

[Blackmac]

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Mitchell had a shocker, so did Slade in the tackle stats

I'd be pretty bloody concerned at Earls effort as well.

[Torquemada 1420]

Fair to say Bin didn't have one of his better games.

[Torquemada 1420]

Prendergast (33% tackle success) and Crawley (50%) definitely on the plane due to their superior tackling

Irritating collapse in the second half.

You never give a source for these stats that you ̶p̶l̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶s̶e̶ quote on here.

You try to beat Mr Anal Retentive up on that?

[Torquemada 1420]

To state the bleeding obvious, the fact that Ireland have France at home is huge.

We saw a second/third gear France at best last night, they will get better. I think Ireland will too.

France's midfield was very bad and they were in general extremely slack against Wales. Far too easy for them. Very hard to tell if they will step it up or not. Should be a fun tournament.

I would not expect to see that next week now that Ntamack is gone. However, I'm no fan of Moefana and he and Barassi are too similar so yesterday was no surprise to me. Also, if Penaud is back, then holes will simply be punched from the wing.

[JM2K6]

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Mitchell had a shocker, so did Slade in the tackle stats

I'd be pretty bloody concerned at Earls effort as well.

He wasn't exactly hot shit in attack or at the ruck, either. Can't say I noticed Willis but at this point we do need a punchy carrier and his weight of carrying has to be worth a look. Earl can take some time on the bench given he's not really performed at a high standard for England since the world cup.

Pick the best Curry (not sure who that would be) and maybe Ted Hill at 6 and the balance is way better

[Kawazaki]

Huw Jones's strong Scottish brogue makes it difficult to understand some of his words.

You constantly sound like a cunt but I’d still say you were English

Never understood people who would rather be known as a cunt and a racist than not known at all.

Poor old Beryl, no idea why she puts up with him.

Here's my shadow.

[Punter15]

You constantly sound like a cunt but I’d still say you were English

Never understood people who would rather be known as a cunt and a racist than not known at all.

Poor old Beryl, no idea why she puts up with him.

Here's my shadow.

Almost commendable that you never deny being either. For anyone interested, here’s what got him banned from the other place.

[Kawazaki]

Never understood people who would rather be known as a cunt and a racist than not known at all.

Poor old Beryl, no idea why she puts up with him.

Here's my shadow.

Almost commendable that you never deny being either. For anyone interested, here’s what got him banned from the other place.

You really should be a limbo dancer.

[fishfoodie]

Carrying on my job as the U20's promoter; France V Wales @20:10 on the BBC Red Button ..... could be worse than Saw the Uncensored cut.

[JM2K6]

Never understood people who would rather be known as a cunt and a racist than not known at all.

Poor old Beryl, no idea why she puts up with him.

Here's my shadow.

Almost commendable that you never deny being either. For anyone interested, here’s what got him banned from the other place.

Christ. What a cunt.

[Tichtheid]

Carrying on my job as the U20's promoter; France V Wales @20:10 on the BBC Red Button

Nice one

[Uncle fester]

Here's my shadow.

Almost commendable that you never deny being either. For anyone interested, here’s what got him banned from the other place.

Christ. What a cunt.

Was it him who took a jab at Gort's missus also? She had cancer IIRC.

[Kawazaki]

Almost commendable that you never deny being either. For anyone interested, here’s what got him banned from the other place.

Christ. What a cunt.

Was it him who took a jab at Gort's missus also? She had cancer IIRC.

You guys.

[fishfoodie]

After two years of the Welsh U20s looking bang average, this team have a bit of grit !!

7 - 5 17 mins gone.. we might have a game on here

[Tichtheid]

After two years of the Welsh U20s looking bang average, this team have a bit of grit !!

7 - 5 17 mins gone.. we might have a game on here

That, plus France not being absolute monsters this year.

[Uncle fester]

After two years of the Welsh U20s looking bang average, this team have a bit of grit !!

7 - 5 17 mins gone.. we might have a game on here

That, plus France not being absolute monsters this year.

Did I hear right that France didn't usually get their full 20's team until the JRWC?

We won the slam one year and then they trounced us at the jrwc.

[Tichtheid]

After two years of the Welsh U20s looking bang average, this team have a bit of grit !!

7 - 5 17 mins gone.. we might have a game on here

That, plus France not being absolute monsters this year.

Did I hear right that France didn't usually get their full 20's team until the JRWC?

We won the slam one year and then they trounced us at the jrwc.

I think a few of them are playing in the Top 14 or are around the full squad and held in reserve, so they don't appear in this competition
Louis Bielle-Biarrey was one such iirc.

[Torquemada 1420]

Carrying on my job as the U20's promoter; France V Wales @20:10 on the BBC Red Button ..... could be worse than Saw the Uncensored cut.

Hah. No. This was already a much weakened squad and now the only real T14 experienced of Gazotti, Tolofua, Carbonneau, Reus, Darricarrere, Noah and Attisogbe are not likely to see any more game time at this level.

The Bayonne FB Mosques is the only player I recognise.

{EDIT} Apologies. Tolofua on the bench.

[Torquemada 1420]

Was it him who took a jab at Gort's missus also? She had cancer IIRC.

Whatever happened to Grot? Wasn't he the big league fan?

[Torquemada 1420]

Did I hear right that France didn't usually get their full 20's team until the JRWC?

Pretty much that. See earlier post of mine on why Fra have been prominent at RWC level for several years but don't show much in the 6N. 6N clashes with T14 and so you aren't going to see the likes of Gazzotti.

[Tichtheid]

France cutting loose now

[Torquemada 1420]

France cutting loose now

Wales making the mistake of allowing the game to become loose and them throwing in a lot of inaccuracies.

[Uncle fester]

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[Torquemada 1420]

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Gatland and Borthwick gone by the end?

[Torquemada 1420]

France really are the masters of the kick pass at any level.