That seems insane to me, I feel like anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge (club physios?) would have been able to say that training could potentially exacerbate things and that with the injury involving the players eyes/sight, that they should wait until the swelling subsided before he get back to action.He was rushed to hospital, but it was not for another two weeks that he underwent surgery as the initially swelling masked the severity of the injury.
"I had tried to train in that time, which was not the best idea, but we didn't know at the time," he said.
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Was this during the time that arsehole Michael Cheika was coach?sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:01 amThat seems insane to me, I feel like anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge (club physios?) would have been able to say that training could potentially exacerbate things and that with the injury involving the players eyes/sight, that they should wait until the swelling subsided before he get back to action.He was rushed to hospital, but it was not for another two weeks that he underwent surgery as the initially swelling masked the severity of the injury.
"I had tried to train in that time, which was not the best idea, but we didn't know at the time," he said.
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No it was an McKellar's watch. I think it speaks generally to rugby's culture of toughing things out where unless something's obviously debilitating they'll try and train through it, stems as much from players as coaches.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:21 amWas this during the time that arsehole Michael Cheika was coach?sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:01 amThat seems insane to me, I feel like anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge (club physios?) would have been able to say that training could potentially exacerbate things and that with the injury involving the players eyes/sight, that they should wait until the swelling subsided before he get back to action.He was rushed to hospital, but it was not for another two weeks that he underwent surgery as the initially swelling masked the severity of the injury.
"I had tried to train in that time, which was not the best idea, but we didn't know at the time," he said.
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TBF, Medard "played" is a reach. Candidate for the biggest flake ever. Maybe shaded by Poitrenaud.laurent wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:22 pm2019 full back was Ramos or Médard both played regularly at full backPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:15 pmIn fairness though they tried this against us not so long ago and we stuck 40 past themYeeb wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:26 pm
Have we ever been not-treacle ?
France would just shrug and put a winger or centre in at fullback and see how that goes , as they have a freer mentality and don’t pigeon hole players by position so much. Players like steward or slade would never have been capped had they been French .
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Now there was an uber c**t.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:59 amNow there was an uber c**t.
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Christ, Toulouse employed Toby Flood?!
Huget was not even a decent winger...Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:59 amNow there was an uber c**t.
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Not a wonderful story, and all very tabloid so apologies in advance, but the England rugby player who was investigated for rape has been exonerated.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
She’s on the BBC now.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:54 pm Not a wonderful story, and all very tabloid so apologies in advance, but the England rugby player who was investigated for rape has been exonerated.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
(The news & media source I mean)
It was Huget that Boucherie Ovalie ran a picture of with the caption "'Chat' not only means pussy, it can also mean big hairy cunt", wasn't it?laurent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:24 pmHuget was not even a decent winger...Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:59 amNow there was an uber c**t.
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Felix Jones back with South Africa. I thought it was supposed to be Munster but who knows what any more.
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Think Munster have the chief’s coach coming in for next season.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:42 pm Felix Jones back with South Africa. I thought it was supposed to be Munster but who knows what any more.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... dee4ey6qjo
Rassie couldn't help himself being a cock even with this.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:42 pm Felix Jones back with South Africa. I thought it was supposed to be Munster but who knows what any more.
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After spending some time in England, his experience of studying opposition teams in the Six Nations
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Yeeb wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:58 pmShe’s on the BBC now.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:54 pm Not a wonderful story, and all very tabloid so apologies in advance, but the England rugby player who was investigated for rape has been exonerated.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
(The news & media source I mean)
I saw what you did there.
Small chuckle.

Yep.McMillan has signed a 3 year deal this weekSimian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:51 pmThink Munster have the chief’s coach coming in for next season.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:42 pm Felix Jones back with South Africa. I thought it was supposed to be Munster but who knows what any more.
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It's a bit cuntish of you to immediately assume that any of us would react the way you apparently feel entitled to ?petej wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:35 pm Saw this I wonder how much shit the Irish on the board would have made if an English international had inadvertently gouged one of their players causing a career ending injury.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... q1w11egz1o
It was an unfortunate accident, that sadly meant the end of a players career; it was no-ones fault, it's just a fact of life in contact sports.
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Really tough one as there are far more women that will never get justice than there are men like Yarde who are falsely accused and see their lives ruined, however you have to feel a load of sympathy for a man who has seen his life ruined as a result of this. Can only hope he is able to make a living in rugby through his 30s and make up for some of the time he has lostYeeb wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:58 pmShe’s on the BBC now.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:54 pm Not a wonderful story, and all very tabloid so apologies in advance, but the England rugby player who was investigated for rape has been exonerated.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
(The news & media source I mean)
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That's one I missed. Vile human being.Brazil wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:28 pmIt was Huget that Boucherie Ovalie ran a picture of with the caption "'Chat' not only means pussy, it can also mean big hairy cunt", wasn't it?laurent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:24 pmHuget was not even a decent winger...Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:59 am
Now there was an uber c**t.
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I seem to recall Irish posters & social media going rather bezerk when Brian o Driscoll got injured in that lions game spear tackle , where they all also ‘a bit cuntish?’fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:46 pmIt's a bit cuntish of you to immediately assume that any of us would react the way you apparently feel entitled to ?petej wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:35 pm Saw this I wonder how much shit the Irish on the board would have made if an English international had inadvertently gouged one of their players causing a career ending injury.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... q1w11egz1o
It was an unfortunate accident, that sadly meant the end of a players career; it was no-ones fault, it's just a fact of life in contact sports.
Am not sure the phrases ‘it was an unfortunate accident , no one’s fault, just a fact of life in contact sports’ would have gone down too well at that time with anyone from team green.
A bit of backgroundPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:40 pmReally tough one as there are far more women that will never get justice than there are men like Yarde who are falsely accused and see their lives ruined, however you have to feel a load of sympathy for a man who has seen his life ruined as a result of this. Can only hope he is able to make a living in rugby through his 30s and make up for some of the time he has lostYeeb wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:58 pmShe’s on the BBC now.inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:54 pm Not a wonderful story, and all very tabloid so apologies in advance, but the England rugby player who was investigated for rape has been exonerated.
A woman in Manchester fabricated stories about Marland Yarde raping a 16 year old, and sold the rape story to the press. She's just been found guilty of stalking him for 14 months - where it came out that she'd made up the rape allegations.
I'm not his greatest fan, but absolutely shocking that his career was essentially ended by this.
(The news & media source I mean)
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Bath clearing the bench Vs Quins and have gone from 28-7 down to 34-28 up
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Just watched on catch up - great entertainmentinactionman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:17 pm Bath clearing the bench Vs Quins and have gone from 28-7 down to 34-28 up
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He's not wrong!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-uni ... 352jzkkoFormer captain Will Carling has questioned the quality and experience of England's current coaching set-up, suggesting it is preventing the team reaching their full potential.
England recovered from an opening-round defeat by Ireland with dramatic one-point wins over France and Scotland, but have still been criticised for their style of play so far in the Six Nations.
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We could do with someone of his quality at 12 right now.
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Unofortunately, it did bag two narrow wins against decent opposition and we may well end up 4 from 5 by the end of the tournament, which would certainly be taken as evidence that it is working even if we could quite as easily be 2 from 5.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:36 pm Message to Scabnose: It aint effin well working!!!!
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Problem is, when the kicking is done by your 9-10-12 axis, that stifles everything unless you have a mutant kick chase game, which we really don't.
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We did also score four tries against France in fairness, which has nothing to do with their handling and seems to be getting overlooked. Kicking into position followed by well executed strike moves is not a horror show for spectators at all and seems to be what they’re attempting. A few handling errors and a dumb pen from Earl prevented it getting off the ground v Scotland but you can see what they’re trying to do.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:37 pmUnofortunately, it did bag two narrow wins against decent opposition and we may well end up 4 from 5 by the end of the tournament, which would certainly be taken as evidence that it is working even if we could quite as easily be 2 from 5.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:36 pm Message to Scabnose: It aint effin well working!!!!
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Scotland in any case was exceptional in that the team shat themselves as soon as they realised it was a ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to play rugby day’ as opposed to ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to show off his beach weights and whinge at the ref’ day, leading to a decision to not offer Scotland any turnover opportunities in our own half. Take out a phenomenally dumb lineout pen in the last 5 minutes and the tactic probably leads to a 19-10 win over a bogey side and I’m convinced the narrative would be different
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Holy shitballs, Borthwick has actually dropped Slade (or maybe he's injured, I don't care) and Dingwall starts. On a less positive note, Daly starts at 15, because that always worked out 
England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith

England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith
With 5 Saints in the backs starting and Slade dropped, lets hope the ball gets through the hands a bit more.
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Not with Borthwick's data.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:25 pm With 5 Saints in the backs starting and Slade dropped, lets hope the ball gets through the hands a bit more.England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith
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Really hope Dingwall makes the most of this chance.
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That’s a great take you keep thinking this england team are on the cusp of being special…. They played almost zero running rugby in the entire 80 minsPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:02 pmWe did also score four tries against France in fairness, which has nothing to do with their handling and seems to be getting overlooked. Kicking into position followed by well executed strike moves is not a horror show for spectators at all and seems to be what they’re attempting. A few handling errors and a dumb pen from Earl prevented it getting off the ground v Scotland but you can see what they’re trying to do.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:37 pmUnofortunately, it did bag two narrow wins against decent opposition and we may well end up 4 from 5 by the end of the tournament, which would certainly be taken as evidence that it is working even if we could quite as easily be 2 from 5.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:36 pm Message to Scabnose: It aint effin well working!!!!
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Scotland in any case was exceptional in that the team shat themselves as soon as they realised it was a ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to play rugby day’ as opposed to ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to show off his beach weights and whinge at the ref’ day, leading to a decision to not offer Scotland any turnover opportunities in our own half. Take out a phenomenally dumb lineout pen in the last 5 minutes and the tactic probably leads to a 19-10 win over a bogey side and I’m convinced the narrative would be different
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That’s a great take you keep thinking this england team are on the cusp of being special…. They played almost zero running rugby in the entire 80 minsPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:02 pmWe did also score four tries against France in fairness, which has nothing to do with their handling and seems to be getting overlooked. Kicking into position followed by well executed strike moves is not a horror show for spectators at all and seems to be what they’re attempting. A few handling errors and a dumb pen from Earl prevented it getting off the ground v Scotland but you can see what they’re trying to do.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:37 pmUnofortunately, it did bag two narrow wins against decent opposition and we may well end up 4 from 5 by the end of the tournament, which would certainly be taken as evidence that it is working even if we could quite as easily be 2 from 5.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:36 pm Message to Scabnose: It aint effin well working!!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20 ... orthwick
Scotland in any case was exceptional in that the team shat themselves as soon as they realised it was a ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to play rugby day’ as opposed to ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to show off his beach weights and whinge at the ref’ day, leading to a decision to not offer Scotland any turnover opportunities in our own half. Take out a phenomenally dumb lineout pen in the last 5 minutes and the tactic probably leads to a 19-10 win over a bogey side and I’m convinced the narrative would be different
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In isolation, sure, it looks like maybe it's progress and they're building to something, but this is Borthwick's 3rd campaign and at least the 5th for this squad where there's been a mixture of horrific anti-rugby, promising attack, shizophrenic defence and a whole lot of mediocrity. I accept that we're not going to play a champagne rugby blinder every single game, let alone against decent opposition, but getting back to a place where we can at least look as fluid as the other leading teams and as cohesive in what we're trying to do shouldn't be too much to ask and yet it's been years.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:02 pmWe did also score four tries against France in fairness, which has nothing to do with their handling and seems to be getting overlooked. Kicking into position followed by well executed strike moves is not a horror show for spectators at all and seems to be what they’re attempting. A few handling errors and a dumb pen from Earl prevented it getting off the ground v Scotland but you can see what they’re trying to do.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:37 pmUnofortunately, it did bag two narrow wins against decent opposition and we may well end up 4 from 5 by the end of the tournament, which would certainly be taken as evidence that it is working even if we could quite as easily be 2 from 5.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:36 pm Message to Scabnose: It aint effin well working!!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20 ... orthwick
Scotland in any case was exceptional in that the team shat themselves as soon as they realised it was a ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to play rugby day’ as opposed to ‘Jamie Ritchie has arrived to show off his beach weights and whinge at the ref’ day, leading to a decision to not offer Scotland any turnover opportunities in our own half. Take out a phenomenally dumb lineout pen in the last 5 minutes and the tactic probably leads to a 19-10 win over a bogey side and I’m convinced the narrative would be different
Don't mind Daly at 15, he was the best full back in the Prem leading up to the 6N. Dingwall really needs to grab this chance with both hands.Oxbow wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:24 pm Holy shitballs, Borthwick has actually dropped Slade (or maybe he's injured, I don't care) and Dingwall starts. On a less positive note, Daly starts at 15, because that always worked out
England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith
Oxbow wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:24 pm Holy shitballs, Borthwick has actually dropped Slade (or maybe he's injured, I don't care) and Dingwall starts. On a less positive note, Daly starts at 15, because that always worked out
England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith
Daly is a much much much better fullback than Marcus Smith is. And you can double the much content when you compare him to Freddie Steward.
Carpenter did ok in what were dreadful weather conditions. I'd not have a problem if he'd been given a start in this match
All very true, but Smith does at least attempt to tackle. Still a huge upgrade on Steward.Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:19 pmOxbow wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:24 pm Holy shitballs, Borthwick has actually dropped Slade (or maybe he's injured, I don't care) and Dingwall starts. On a less positive note, Daly starts at 15, because that always worked out
England: Daly; Freeman, Lawrence, Dingwall, Sleightholme; F Smith, Mitchell; Genge, George, Stuart, Itoje, Chessum, T Curry, Earl, Willis
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Baxter, Heyes, Hill, Cunningham-South, B Curry, Van Poortvliet, M Smith
Daly is a much much much better fullback than Marcus Smith is. And you can double the much content when you compare him to Freddie Steward.