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Dogbert wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:54 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:46 pm You guys are thinking too small: Elon and Donny get in a fight in The Oval Office. Musk fatally stabs Trump in the neck with a letter opener; so Secret Service open fire, killing Musk and also Vance in the cross-fire.
Marjorie Taylor Greene becomes the 48th POTUS :wtf
She’s nuts, but she isn’t a Putin stooge.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:55 pm
Dogbert wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:54 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:46 pm You guys are thinking too small: Elon and Donny get in a fight in The Oval Office. Musk fatally stabs Trump in the neck with a letter opener; so Secret Service open fire, killing Musk and also Vance in the cross-fire.
Marjorie Taylor Greene becomes the 48th POTUS :wtf
She’s nuts,
but she isn’t a Putin stooge.
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Kiwias wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:34 am Buggered if I know where this mythical Lincoln/Mandela statesman is going to come from, as it looks to me as if the society — not only politics — is hopelessly split.
Michelle Obama?
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Enzedder wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:34 am Buggered if I know where this mythical Lincoln/Mandela statesman is going to come from, as it looks to me as if the society — not only politics — is hopelessly split.
Michelle Obama?
Please don't say you have forgotten the "Monkey Face", "Ape in Heels", and "monkey on a stick" among many other attacks on her by right-wing nutjobs. Then there was the whole "Michael Obama" phase when the right was claiming she is a transvestite. There is no reason to think things might have improved after another Trump term.
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Dogbert wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:57 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:55 pm
Dogbert wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:54 pm

Marjorie Taylor Greene becomes the 48th POTUS :wtf
She’s nuts,
but she isn’t a Putin stooge.
Oh really

That’s Trump’s message. He owes Russia and his team play the same tune. If he dies, the record will change immediately.
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Krasnov will no longer be monitoring for war crimes in the war in Ukraine. Pulled out with reportedly no concessions from Russia.
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Military websites remove webpages celebrating the Navajo code talkers from WWII. Also removed is a reference to a 2018 presidential proclamation celebrating the Native American contribution to the American military, a proclamation that was of course signed by one Donald Trump.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:37 pm Military websites remove webpages celebrating the Navajo code talkers from WWII. Also removed is a reference to a 2018 presidential proclamation celebrating the Native American contribution to the American military, a proclamation that was of course signed by one Donald Trump.
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I think it's fairly clear the the Trump Administration is aiming for a white supremacist elected dictatorship at this point, with a healthy dose of patriarchal themes on the side.
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Trump obediently waiting for an hour after the arranged time for Putin to call.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:55 pm Trump obediently waiting for an hour after the arranged time for Putin to call.
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:57 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:55 pm Trump obediently waiting for an hour after the arranged time for Putin to call.
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Putin was being televised in the other meeting he had so really obvious snub.
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Enzedder wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:34 am Buggered if I know where this mythical Lincoln/Mandela statesman is going to come from, as it looks to me as if the society — not only politics — is hopelessly split.
Michelle Obama?
The US, like Europe, is finished. No individual can save it. It would take a mass awakening but this won't happen

Both will be brought down by corruption and lies. Esp politicians and the media. It happens. Empires rise and the people become complacent (and stupid). Then the criminals take over. Once they start stealing they can't stop. And start to remove rights people have (like free speech and fair trials etc to try and protect themselves). Slowly people start to wake up but then its becomes a fight between the awake and asleep. A country divided like this can't survive. The US is in a better position than the EU (that was built on lies) but not by much.
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^

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Get help, bro.
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Gumboot wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:49 pm ^

:lol:

Get help, bro.
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UK institutions are courting US intellectuals to come over. Along with most the EU. Glad we're taking advantage.
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Raggs wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:01 pm UK institutions are courting US intellectuals to come over. Along with most the EU. Glad we're taking advantage.
Seeing as the FBI were "questioning" one dual national who authored parts of the Paris agreement, you can see why.

In other news, the chief justice doesn't want the leopards to eat his face.
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Both will be brought down by corruption and lies.
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The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:38 pm The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
I saw that and rather felt the trouble with our internet social media world is that what a Chief Justice says that means feck off comes across like a slap with a damp tissue.
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Republicans defending Trump is one thing, but the levels of ass kissing here ... fuck me!

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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:56 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:38 pm The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
I saw that and rather felt the trouble with our internet social media world is that what a Chief Justice says that means feck off comes across like a slap with a damp tissue.
Response of the magas seems to be "how are you going to enforce these rulings?"
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So Krasnov's EOs have killed the database that was tracking the 35k Ukrainian children abducted into Russia. With seemingly a not little chance that the work has not only been stopped, but deleted.
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Only 22 months to go! Assuming they haven't completely rigged/wartime paused the electoral system by then as well.

Either way, what odds the noughties playbook gets dusted off soon for an escape goat.
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Flockwitt wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:56 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:38 pm The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
I saw that and rather felt the trouble with our internet social media world is that what a Chief Justice says that means feck off comes across like a slap with a damp tissue.
it does rather feel like they've invited a starving bull into a china shop, pumped it full of amphetamines, and then on watching a few things break think asking the bull to reflect on its behaviour will accomplish... anything
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Enzedder wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:34 am Buggered if I know where this mythical Lincoln/Mandela statesman is going to come from, as it looks to me as if the society — not only politics — is hopelessly split.
Michelle Obama?

I asked American friends a few years ago why the most obvious best candidate was being overlooked and they replied that the US electorate was suspicious of dynasties nowadays. This was before all the fallout from the George Floyd murder. Since then my friends have the feeling that there has been a definite entrenchment of views which would make it very difficult for any non-white to win the presidential election.

There is also the fact that several times she has stated that she wouldn't want to be put through another campaign and stay in the Whitehouse.
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:07 am
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:56 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:38 pm The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
I saw that and rather felt the trouble with our internet social media world is that what a Chief Justice says that means feck off comes across like a slap with a damp tissue.
it does rather feel like they've invited a starving bull into a china shop, pumped it full of amphetamines, and then on watching a few things break think asking the bull to reflect on its behaviour will accomplish... anything
This is their test case - does the US want Trump to deport these so called gang members (PS Many aren't but just innocent guys picked up off the street) or does it want the 'will of the President' thwarted by some commie Judges. If Trump and his mob of brown shirted henchmen win this case about the deportation flights and the Judge gets removed from the case/impeached then the US is completely lost. If the Supreme Court backs down then Trump and his nazis have carte blanche to start doing whatever they want including mass deportations of anyone they dont like racially, polically or whatever. If they win, and remember this is the Supreme Court judges who voted to give Trump Presidential immunity whilst in office, then forget about fair and free elections in a couple of years. The US is lost!
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:29 am
Enzedder wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 am
Kiwias wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:34 am Buggered if I know where this mythical Lincoln/Mandela statesman is going to come from, as it looks to me as if the society — not only politics — is hopelessly split.
Michelle Obama?

I asked American friends a few years ago why the most obvious best candidate was being overlooked and they replied that the US electorate was suspicious of dynasties nowadays. This was before all the fallout from the George Floyd murder. Since then my friends have the feeling that there has been a definite entrenchment of views which would make it very difficult for any non-white to win the presidential election.

There is also the fact that several times she has stated that she wouldn't want to be put through another campaign and stay in the Whitehouse.
Even without the BLM movement, Obama's election broke the American right, just completely short-circuited their brains. It created the Tea Party movement and a massive escalation in obstructionist tactics from the Republican party more broadly. They started picking on minutiae they never would have with a white president (the furore over his wearing a tan suit [like Reagan used to do...] for example). In this particularly hateful soil the creeping blight of the current MAGA movement emerged, it's definitely not going anywhere any time soon. However much some of them might be having an epiphany that Trump isn't good for them or interested in their well-being, they're still at heart intransigent bigots.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:03 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:29 am
Enzedder wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 am

Michelle Obama?

I asked American friends a few years ago why the most obvious best candidate was being overlooked and they replied that the US electorate was suspicious of dynasties nowadays. This was before all the fallout from the George Floyd murder. Since then my friends have the feeling that there has been a definite entrenchment of views which would make it very difficult for any non-white to win the presidential election.

There is also the fact that several times she has stated that she wouldn't want to be put through another campaign and stay in the Whitehouse.
Even without the BLM movement, Obama's election broke the American right, just completely short-circuited their brains. It created the Tea Party movement and a massive escalation in obstructionist tactics from the Republican party more broadly. They started picking on minutiae they never would have with a white president (the furore over his wearing a tan suit [like Reagan used to do...] for example). In this particularly hateful soil the creeping blight of the current MAGA movement emerged, it's definitely not going anywhere any time soon. However much some of them might be having an epiphany that Trump isn't good for them or interested in their well-being, they're still at heart intransigent bigots.

There is an interview on YouTube - Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop, where Stewart claims the current situation has been long in the planning and making - going back to Nixon. This begat the Tea Party and stuffed the federal and state authorities with approved candidates. Written down like this it reads like tin foil hat stuff, but if you haven't seen it, the interview is worth a watch, Stewart makes a more compelling case than I do here.
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dpedin wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:34 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:07 am
Flockwitt wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:56 pm

I saw that and rather felt the trouble with our internet social media world is that what a Chief Justice says that means feck off comes across like a slap with a damp tissue.
it does rather feel like they've invited a starving bull into a china shop, pumped it full of amphetamines, and then on watching a few things break think asking the bull to reflect on its behaviour will accomplish... anything
This is their test case - does the US want Trump to deport these so called gang members (PS Many aren't but just innocent guys picked up off the street) or does it want the 'will of the President' thwarted by some commie Judges. If Trump and his mob of brown shirted henchmen win this case about the deportation flights and the Judge gets removed from the case/impeached then the US is completely lost. If the Supreme Court backs down then Trump and his nazis have carte blanche to start doing whatever they want including mass deportations of anyone they dont like racially, polically or whatever. If they win, and remember this is the Supreme Court judges who voted to give Trump Presidential immunity whilst in office, then forget about fair and free elections in a couple of years. The US is lost!
If they win, and remember this is the Supreme Court judges who voted to give Trump Presidential immunity whilst in office,


Any President. And its for official acts only.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President ... ted_States

Presidential immunity is the concept that a sitting president of the United States has both civil and criminal immunity for their official acts.[a] Neither civil nor criminal immunity is explicitly granted in the Constitution or any federal statute.[1][2]

The Supreme Court of the United States found in Nixon v. Fitzgerald (1982) that the president has absolute immunity from civil damages actions regarding conduct within the "outer perimeter" of their duties. However, in Clinton v. Jones (1997), the court ruled against temporary immunity for sitting presidents from suits arising from pre-presidency conduct. Some scholars have suggested an immunity from arrest and criminal prosecution as well, a view which has become the practice of the Department of Justice under a pair of memoranda (1973 and 2000) from the Office of Legal Counsel. Presidents Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump were criminally investigated while in office, but none were prosecuted while still in office. In February 2024, former President Trump claimed absolute immunity from being investigated for any crimes committed while in office. The Supreme Court ruled in Trump v. United States (2024) that all presidents have absolute criminal immunity for official acts under core constitutional powers, presumptive immunity for other official acts, and no immunity for unofficial acts.[5][6]
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:03 am
Even without the BLM movement, Obama's election broke the American right, just completely short-circuited their brains. It created the Tea Party movement and a massive escalation in obstructionist tactics from the Republican party more broadly. They started picking on minutiae they never would have with a white president (the furore over his wearing a tan suit [like Reagan used to do...] for example). In this particularly hateful soil the creeping blight of the current MAGA movement emerged, it's definitely not going anywhere any time soon. However much some of them might be having an epiphany that Trump isn't good for them or interested in their well-being, they're still at heart intransigent bigots.
Good post.
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" If Trump and his mob of brown shirted henchmen win this case about the deportation flights and the Judge gets removed from the case/impeached then the US is completely lost."

:wtf:
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:14 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:03 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:29 am


I asked American friends a few years ago why the most obvious best candidate was being overlooked and they replied that the US electorate was suspicious of dynasties nowadays. This was before all the fallout from the George Floyd murder. Since then my friends have the feeling that there has been a definite entrenchment of views which would make it very difficult for any non-white to win the presidential election.

There is also the fact that several times she has stated that she wouldn't want to be put through another campaign and stay in the Whitehouse.
Even without the BLM movement, Obama's election broke the American right, just completely short-circuited their brains. It created the Tea Party movement and a massive escalation in obstructionist tactics from the Republican party more broadly. They started picking on minutiae they never would have with a white president (the furore over his wearing a tan suit [like Reagan used to do...] for example). In this particularly hateful soil the creeping blight of the current MAGA movement emerged, it's definitely not going anywhere any time soon. However much some of them might be having an epiphany that Trump isn't good for them or interested in their well-being, they're still at heart intransigent bigots.

There is an interview on YouTube - Jon Stewart and Ian Hislop, where Stewart claims the current situation has been long in the planning and making - going back to Nixon. This begat the Tea Party and stuffed the federal and state authorities with approved candidates. Written down like this it reads like tin foil hat stuff, but if you haven't seen it, the interview is worth a watch, Stewart makes a more compelling case than I do here.
I have seen that video, it's a real shame that Stewart isn't considered a more prominent voice by the Democratic party. Satirist he may be, he's spot on far more often than not and is tapped in in a way that the establishment Dems could never hope to be.

It really shouldn't be seen as tin foil hat, The Southern Strategy is a very real and documented phenomenon and is a real window into the malign patience of the Republican party and, more importantly, its backers. Also of the drive and efficacy of that political machine. For better or worse, the right seem to make a lot more progress with their agenda than the centrists, let alone the left. It helps that their agenda often dovetails with things the donor class support.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:38 pm The news lost amongst the noise of the Trump Putin call is that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a Trump nominee, told the DOJ to go fuck itself calling for judges to be impeached. That's actually huge.
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Whole load of racist Saffers coming the USA then

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjevg2vlwk4o
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:27 pm Whole load of racist Saffers coming the USA then

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjevg2vlwk4o
They not necessarily racist. They’re economic migrants looking for a chance.
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Sandstorm wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:27 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:27 pm Whole load of racist Saffers coming the USA then

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjevg2vlwk4o
They not necessarily racist. They’re economic migrants looking for a chance.
Bit like the Kiwi's in Australia.
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