
Hegseth seems to be firming as King Donald's escape-goat du jour.
Won't be long before the king hardly knows him at all. Maybe never even heard of him before...
Thinking in all too innocent ways, I'd have thought the poor and ignorant are less likely to hold a passport than most democrat voters?Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:49 am Elections are going to be "fixed".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxq37nxl55o
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It's real, he said tune them down 10%.Yeeb wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:40 pm Anyone seen that Trump ‘we will sell them detuned aircraft in case they are no longer allies ‘ thing ?
Is that real or a fake news ?
For a supposed businessman he does seem to be driving custom away, and typhoon / rafaele/ gripen salesmen must be rubbing their hands together
And they can’t be accused of leaking sensitive info, because Tulsi Gabbard said under oath that there was no sensitive material in the chat.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:10 pm 25th March - Secretary Hegseth argued “nobody was texting war plans,"
26th March - Atlantic release the full chat
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Whilst also refusing to disclose the full contents of the chat because it's confidential. How to have your cake and eat it! In theory there will be an investigation into this, quite who does it, what the terms of reference will be and if there's even a veneer or independence we wait to seeBiffer wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:13 pmAnd they can’t be accused of leaking sensitive info, because Tulsi Gabbard said under oath that there was no sensitive material in the chat.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:10 pm 25th March - Secretary Hegseth argued “nobody was texting war plans,"
26th March - Atlantic release the full chat
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A classic piece of negotiation from JD, asking can he come and visit and on being told we'd rather not have you over retort we've got a military base and you can't stop me flying in.Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:07 pm It's OK, Vance is off to Greenland to stir up the natives, so the news cycle will soon move on to the next outrage.
Private data and passwords of senior US security policymakers are online
Donald Trump's most important security advisers discussed a military strike via signal chat. SPIEGEL searches now show that the problem is even greater. Mobile numbers of some participants can be found on the Internet.
By Patrick Beuth, Jörg Diehl, Roman Höfner, Roman Lehberger, Friederike Röhreke and Fidelius Schmid
26.03.2025, 20.17 pm
US Defense Secretary Hegseth: mobile number and private e-mail address from a commercial contact data contact provider
Private contact details of US President Donald Trump's most important security advisers can be viewed on the Internet. Research by SPIEGEL brought to light mobile numbers, e-mail addresses and some passwords.
Information from commercial personal search engines and customer data published on the network was used for the research. National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, U.S. intelligence coordinator Tulsi Gabbard, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, are affected by the leaks.
Most of the publicly available numbers and mail addresses are probably still used by those affected. They are partly connected with profiles on Instagram and Linkedin, among others. They were used to create Dropbox accounts and profiles in apps that track running data. There are WhatsApp profiles for the respective telephone numbers, sometimes even signal accounts.
The research therefore occupies another serious security vulnerability in Washington, which was previously unknown. This publicly available data could hack enemy secret services about the communication of those affected by infecting their end devices using scouting software. It is therefore conceivable that foreign agents consult when Gabbard, Waltz and Hegseth discussed a military strike in a signal chat with others
https://www.spiegel.de/international/wo ... b705521fb7
Yep.Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:02 am Meanwhile, masked ICE agents snatch a Turkish student off the streets for, allegedly, writing a piece in a student paper calling on the school to recognise a decision of the Tufts Community Union Senate acknowledge the "Palestinian genocide".
Whilst it's fun to laugh at the Signal stuff in a "these fuckwits have the codez" manner, there is some heinous shit going on in Anerica.
Too embarrassed to show their faces because they work for ICE.
I love all these cunts saying and doing this shit with crucifixes around their necks and telling everyone how much they love God.
They love the God who will sweep them up in The Rapture, which is why they need to foment Middle East strike and put an ungodly person in high power.
She was fit to burst when the follow up questions demanded she answer the British journos question.
In fairness as I recall from the pandemic MAGA are famously pro mask wearing.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:48 amToo embarrassed to show their faces because they work for ICE.
Our recent cruise out of Miami was, I would guess, 30% Canadians. If they go elsewhere I would imagine that becomes a huge problem.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am Canada to USA travel bookings down 70% on this time last year already.
AirNZ put a question on Bookface: "How many people are planning to go to USA in 2025 on holiday?" - 99% said "Fuck off!"
UK, Dutch and German travel advisory: "Be absolutely sure your travel documents are in order when travelling to USA to avoid being detained for a long period"
Travellers everywhere are worried about what's on the phones that might show they are critical of Trump.
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
I suspect people who voluntarily work for ICE aren't particularly embarassed by it. Masks are likely to increase distance between them and their victims, makes it easier to dehumanise and abuse.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:48 amToo embarrassed to show their faces because they work for ICE.
Would echo that anecdote , plenty of my chums giving USA a swerve this year, even my mate who goes to Florida every year. Be interesting to see if this leads to US hols slashing prices like what Egypt did after that massacre and all their bookings dried upSandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am Canada to USA travel bookings down 70% on this time last year already.
AirNZ put a question on Bookface: "How many people are planning to go to USA in 2025 on holiday?" - 99% said "Fuck off!"
UK, Dutch and German travel advisory: "Be absolutely sure your travel documents are in order when travelling to USA to avoid being detained for a long period"
Travellers everywhere are worried about what's on the phones that might show they are critical of Trump.
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
My Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
The media gaze is likely to remain on the US and the Mango Mussolini though, whereas Erdogan's latest bullshit comes to the fore before fading back a few pages in the papers.robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pmMy Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
How does Turkish immigration stack up against the septics?robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pmMy Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
I think you haven't grasped just how betrayed, in particular, the Canucks feel over all of this !robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pmMy Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
Yeah, sorry to pile in, but any outrage with Turkey passes fairly quickly. And it’s cool.robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pmMy Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
Enjoyed that last sentencefishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:03 pmI think you haven't grasped just how betrayed, in particular, the Canucks feel over all of this !robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pmMy Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:00 am
Anecdotally everyone I know says they are going to give USA a swerve for the next 4 years.
This is going to get serious for the American Tourism industry.
All they need to do is swap Florida for Mexico, or the Caribbean, or Cube etc, etc, & the tour operators will stop selling holidays to Florida, & then businesses in Florida start laying people off, because n% of their expected footfall is now gone, & won't be back for four years, if ever, because once you get used to going on holiday to a new place, it'll take a significant incentive to switch back !
There are businesses that acted like scumbags during the early days of Covid, that I still haven't revisited; because I'm Irish, & I can hold a grudge for a bloody long time !
Hey, people like to characterize it as a vice, which it can be sometimes, but the Yanks seem to have a memory span less than a Goldfish, & look where that's landed them !Slick wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:14 pmEnjoyed that last sentencefishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:03 pmI think you haven't grasped just how betrayed, in particular, the Canucks feel over all of this !robmatic wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:08 pm
My Turkish perspective on this is that those qualms and misgivings about authoritarianism and risks to personal liberty don't last as long as you think. People overlook a lot for their sun and shopping.
All they need to do is swap Florida for Mexico, or the Caribbean, or Cube etc, etc, & the tour operators will stop selling holidays to Florida, & then businesses in Florida start laying people off, because n% of their expected footfall is now gone, & won't be back for four years, if ever, because once you get used to going on holiday to a new place, it'll take a significant incentive to switch back !
There are businesses that acted like scumbags during the early days of Covid, that I still haven't revisited; because I'm Irish, & I can hold a grudge for a bloody long time !![]()
Sec of State Rubio's commentsockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:02 amI suspect people who voluntarily work for ICE aren't particularly embarassed by it. Masks are likely to increase distance between them and their victims, makes it easier to dehumanise and abuse.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:48 amToo embarrassed to show their faces because they work for ICE.
Also suggests they're not yet fully confident in a permanent transition to authoritarianism and don't want to be readily identifiable should there be any future inquests...
“We gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campuses,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Thursday when asked about Ozturk’s arrest for writing an op-ed.
The US Constitution doesn't just apply to US Citizens, or else they'd just ignore the 14th Amendment when it came to H1B Visa recipients & just make them slaves.Kiwias wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:54 pmSec of State Rubio's commentsockwithaticket wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:02 amI suspect people who voluntarily work for ICE aren't particularly embarassed by it. Masks are likely to increase distance between them and their victims, makes it easier to dehumanise and abuse.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:48 am
Too embarrassed to show their faces because they work for ICE.
Also suggests they're not yet fully confident in a permanent transition to authoritarianism and don't want to be readily identifiable should there be any future inquests...“We gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campuses,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Thursday when asked about Ozturk’s arrest for writing an op-ed.