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[Punter15]

Scotland U20 Men squad for the 2025 World Rugby U20 Championship

Forwards

Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
Freddy Douglas – CO-CAPTAIN (Edinburgh Rugby)
Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)
Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
Will Pearce (Cardiff Metropolitan University/Bristol Bears)
Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
Ben White (Melrose RFC/Edinburgh Rugby)

Backs

Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
Isaac Coates (Edinburgh Rugby)
Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)
Jed Findlay (Exeter Chiefs)
Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)
Angus Hunter (Heriot’s Rugby)
Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors)
Cameron van Wyk (Ayr RFC)
Johnny Ventisei – CO-CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors)
Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)
Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)

Plenty of talent in there but a very tough group.

Just have to win one game

Sounds like they don't even have to win one game now - rumour is relegation is off the table as the WR U20 Championship will expand to 16 teams next year. Probably with the second tier Trophy comp ditched in favour of some 'cross-regional' competition.

If the pressure is off I would really like to see this group just give it an absolute crack and show what they are capable of.

They had certainly stepped it up several levels by the end of the 6 Nations and were superb against France, and the second half of the warm up game got them back into that groove, so really hope they give it a lash.

[Tichtheid]

Scotland U20 Men team to play England U20 at Payanini Center, Verona on Sunday (kick off 2.30pm BST/3.30pm local) – live on RugbyPassTV

15. Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
14. Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

10. Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)

1. Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
5. Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
7. Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)

Replacements

16. Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
17. Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
18. Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
19. Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
20. Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
21. Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
22. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)


Freddy Douglas misses out due to a concussion sustained in training - we could do with catching a break now and again in these games.

[KingBlairhorn]

Scotland U20 Men team to play England U20 at Payanini Center, Verona on Sunday (kick off 2.30pm BST/3.30pm local) – live on RugbyPassTV

15. Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
14. Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

10. Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)

1. Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
5. Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
7. Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)

Replacements

16. Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
17. Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
18. Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
19. Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
20. Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
21. Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
22. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)


Freddy Douglas misses out due to a concussion sustained in training - we could do with catching a break now and again in these games.

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

[Biffer]

Scotland U20 Men team to play England U20 at Payanini Center, Verona on Sunday (kick off 2.30pm BST/3.30pm local) – live on RugbyPassTV

15. Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
14. Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

10. Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)

1. Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
5. Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
7. Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)

Replacements

16. Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
17. Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
18. Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
19. Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
20. Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
21. Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
22. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)


Freddy Douglas misses out due to a concussion sustained in training - we could do with catching a break now and again in these games.

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

That would be one of the bigger Scottish packs to play at any level I'd reckon.

[Tichtheid]

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

That would be one of the bigger Scottish packs to play at any level I'd reckon.

The weights and heights are always to be taken with a pinch of salt, but I make that 929kg. (edit. oops, I didn't read the total - soz for the repetition)

Scotland's pack in the Calcutta Cup game this year tipped the scales at 917kg.

[Punter15]

Scotland U20 Men team to play England U20 at Payanini Center, Verona on Sunday (kick off 2.30pm BST/3.30pm local) – live on RugbyPassTV

15. Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
14. Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

10. Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)

1. Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
5. Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
7. Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)

Replacements

16. Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
17. Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
18. Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
19. Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
20. Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
21. Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
22. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)


Freddy Douglas misses out due to a concussion sustained in training - we could do with catching a break now and again in these games.

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

That would be one of the bigger Scottish packs to play at any level I'd reckon.

Good set of backs too. Cowan is excellent, and Urwin controls well (just hope he’s got his Billy’s Boots on), centres very solid, could do with some more out and out gas in the back three, but all of them are good finishers. Tough opener, but England rely on their pack so hope the boys get stuck in.

[topofthemoon]

Scotland U20 Men team to play England U20 at Payanini Center, Verona on Sunday (kick off 2.30pm BST/3.30pm local) – live on RugbyPassTV

15. Jack Brown (Edinburgh Rugby)
14. Nairn Moncrieff (Edinburgh Rugby)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

10. Matthew Urwin (Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan (Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders)

1. Jake Shearer (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Joe Roberts (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Bart Godsell (Loughborough University)
5. Dan Halkon (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Charlie Moss (Montpellier)
7. Oliver Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)

Replacements

16. Seb Stephen (Glasgow Warriors)
17. Oliver McKenna (Glasgow Warriors)
18. Jamie Stewart (Edinburgh Rugby)
19. Dylan Cockburn (Melrose RFC)
20. Mark Fyffe (University of Edinburgh)
21. Oliver Finlayson-Russell (University of St Andrews)
22. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)


Freddy Douglas misses out due to a concussion sustained in training - we could do with catching a break now and again in these games.

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

That would be one of the bigger Scottish packs to play at any level I'd reckon.

It's heavier than any pack named for the full Scotland team during the Townsend era. Weights taken from the SRU website. High of 928kg, low of 870kg, average of 901kg.

[KingBlairhorn]

Taken from the Glasgow message board, the pack is very big for a Scotland u20s side. It’s pretty big for a Scotland side at any level:

Shearer- 6' 1" 110kg
Roberts - 6' 2" 105kg
OBL - 6' 3" 136kg
Halkon - 6' 7" 120kg
Godsell - 6' 6" 115kg
Moss - 6' 7" 114kg
Duncan - 6' 3" 108kg
Logan - 6' 5" 121kg

Pack weight of 929kg.

Size isn’t everything, but it’s definitely harder when you don’t have it.

That would be one of the bigger Scottish packs to play at any level I'd reckon.

It's heavier than any pack named for the full Scotland team during the Townsend era. Weights taken from the SRU website. High of 928kg, low of 870kg, average of 901kg.

Ooft!

[KingBlairhorn]

I look forward to that stat making it into the comms btw. Hello commentators, we see you!

[Biffer]

Kinghorn starts on the wing for Toulouse tonight.

[Yr Alban]

Kinghorn starts on the wing for Toulouse tonight.

Seems odd. Has he not been their nailed-on starting 15 this season?

[Tichtheid]

Kinghorn starts on the wing for Toulouse tonight.

Seems odd. Has he not been their nailed-on starting 15 this season?

Ramos is their starter at 15 with Ntamack at 10. Kinghorn has mostly played on the wing for them. Kinghorn played a lot at 15 when Ntamack was injured and Ramos moved forward.

[Punter15]

Is it on anywhere accessible without a mates dodgy Firestick?

[KingBlairhorn]

Is it on anywhere accessible without a mates dodgy Firestick?

Premier sports I think

[KingBlairhorn]

Kinghorn starts on the wing for Toulouse tonight.

Seems odd. Has he not been their nailed-on starting 15 this season?

Ramos is their starter at 15 with Ntamack at 10. Kinghorn has mostly played on the wing for them. Kinghorn played a lot at 15 when Ntamack was injured and Ramos moved forward.

This is why I was saying Keenan to start for the Lions at FB and Kinghorn on the wing.

[Yr Alban]

Seems odd. Has he not been their nailed-on starting 15 this season?

Ramos is their starter at 15 with Ntamack at 10. Kinghorn has mostly played on the wing for them. Kinghorn played a lot at 15 when Ntamack was injured and Ramos moved forward.

This is why I was saying Keenan to start for the Lions at FB and Kinghorn on the wing.

Clearly I wasn’t paying enough attention. Or I was only paying attention when Ramos was injured. Slightly dispiriting really - I thought he had had an amazing season, but it turns out he’s second choice for his club in the position where we use him. Even if the club is Toulouse.

[Slick]

Ramos is their starter at 15 with Ntamack at 10. Kinghorn has mostly played on the wing for them. Kinghorn played a lot at 15 when Ntamack was injured and Ramos moved forward.

This is why I was saying Keenan to start for the Lions at FB and Kinghorn on the wing.

Clearly I wasn’t paying enough attention. Or I was only paying attention when Ramos was injured. Slightly dispiriting really - I thought he had had an amazing season, but it turns out he’s second choice for his club in the position where we use him. Even if the club is Toulouse.

I think maybe you have taken that a bit literally to be honest - not a criticism, just not sure how to articulate it properly- from what I’ve seen, 10, 15 and his wing are very interchangeable and I’m not sure there is a set hierarchy. Also, being 2nd to Ramos is no disgrace

[dpedin]

This is why I was saying Keenan to start for the Lions at FB and Kinghorn on the wing.

Clearly I wasn’t paying enough attention. Or I was only paying attention when Ramos was injured. Slightly dispiriting really - I thought he had had an amazing season, but it turns out he’s second choice for his club in the position where we use him. Even if the club is Toulouse.

I think maybe you have taken that a bit literally to be honest - not a criticism, just not sure how to articulate it properly- from what I’ve seen, 10, 15 and his wing are very interchangeable and I’m not sure there is a set hierarchy. Also, being 2nd to Ramos is no disgrace

It is more about getting their best players on the park - Kinghorn can play wing but Ramos can't, he doesn't have the pace of Kinghorn. With Ntmack at 10 there is no way Ramos will play there so FB is the best way to fit him in the team they want Ramos on the pitch for his place kicking particularly in knock out rugby when 3 points could be key. As said earlier the way Toulouse play the back 3 positions is pretty interchangeable anyway so I wouldn't read too much into whether he plays wing or FB.

It will be interesting to see how Kinghorm does defensively against Penaud?

[Biffer]

Clearly I wasn’t paying enough attention. Or I was only paying attention when Ramos was injured. Slightly dispiriting really - I thought he had had an amazing season, but it turns out he’s second choice for his club in the position where we use him. Even if the club is Toulouse.

I think maybe you have taken that a bit literally to be honest - not a criticism, just not sure how to articulate it properly- from what I’ve seen, 10, 15 and his wing are very interchangeable and I’m not sure there is a set hierarchy. Also, being 2nd to Ramos is no disgrace

It is more about getting their best players on the park - Kinghorn can play wing but Ramos can't, he doesn't have the pace of Kinghorn. With Ntmack at 10 there is no way Ramos will play there so FB is the best way to fit him in the team they want Ramos on the pitch for his place kicking particularly in knock out rugby when 3 points could be key. As said earlier the way Toulouse play the back 3 positions is pretty interchangeable anyway so I wouldn't read too much into whether he plays wing or FB.

It will be interesting to see how Kinghorm does defensively against Penaud?

That’s my understanding as well.

[Slick]

Great shot of the Toulouse pack getting tight, shows what a difference it makes

[Biffer]

Great shot of the Toulouse pack getting tight, shows what a difference it makes

And again to go over

[I like neeps]

Not like Brousset to chose who is going to win the game before kick off and then ref accordingly.

[I like neeps]

Kinghorn has had a bit of a shocker.

[Slick]

Kinghorn has had a bit of a shocker.

Hasn’t been great

[Big D]

I wonder if he has one eye on a flight to Brisbane.

[KingBlairhorn]

This made me happy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/s/fntl1qmiOr

Don’t care who did it, enjoyed very much who he did it to.

[Biffer]

This made me happy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/s/fntl1qmiOr

Don’t care who did it, enjoyed very much who he did it to.

Yep

[Biffer]

I wonder if he has one eye on a flight to Brisbane.

Might be a bit hungover on that flight.

[Punter15]

Oof, first scrum is some statement. Go on boys!

[Punter15]

What a start! Great tracking from Cowan. Forwards on top.

[clydecloggie]

Where are you watching it? Rugbypass shooting blanks at the moment.

[Punter15]

Where are you watching it? Rugbypass shooting blanks at the moment.

RugbyPass. Working for me for a change

[Tichtheid]

Where are you watching it? Rugbypass shooting blanks at the moment.

RugbyPass. Working for me for a change

Working for me too

[Biffer]

Looks like we did OK for twenty minutes or so and then fell to pieces. Red card put the breaks on but tiredness kicking in now

[Punter15]

Looks like we did OK for twenty minutes or so and then fell to pieces. Red card put the breaks on but tiredness kicking in now

I think it’s more credit to England. Our pack was doing very well, and Cowan and Urwin were getting us in good positions, but it looked like England worked out pretty quickly that they had more pace and width and switched to Plan B and just kept overstretching the defence. Once the centres and back three got hot and knckered chasing ghosts, that was that.

[westport]

Gus Warr has been called up to replace Ben White

[KingBlairhorn]

Gus Warr has been called up to replace Ben White

It’s a shame for Tomos but I’m very pleased for white. Well deserved.

[Jock42]

Gus Warr has been called up to replace Ben White

Should have been in anyway so happy days for him

[Tichtheid]

Callum Hunter-Hill back to Embra on a two year deal

[Oxbow]

Callum Hunter-Hill back to Embra on a two year deal

Pretty much permanently injured when he was at Saints, only played a handful of games. Maybe he'll fair better up North.