President Trump and US politics catchall

[Flockwitt]

Everything points to a clear democrat victory at all levels giving them complete control in both houses and the white house as Obama had for a couple of years.

My big hope is that whoever wins, it is a clear victory. I don’t want legal battles and recount after recount. And if it’s still close, I foresee trouble in the streets.

I agree. It has to be decisive; but as with 2012, I doubt the GOP will follow through on the inevitable introspection and move back to the center. My guess is the next incarnation of the Tea Party fueled by their Q-anon fever dream will push them even further into the far right.

What will be interesting, if the Dems get a sweep, is how many measures they will be able to push through in 2 years to cement power like the GOP managed to do for the last 6.
Kill the filibuster? Remove the electoral college? Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico? 2 extra judges on the SC to offset the effect of the Garland seat that McConnell stole?
And once control has been somewhat cemented pursue their healthcare, immigration, environmental and other reforms. No point in spending 2 years building on anything if the GOP are just going to tear it down again next cycle.

Tough even if they get in charge of both houses which is still far from a done deal. But whatever the Dems do the GOP will challenge up to the supreme court and then guess what happens?

[Enzedder]

If you hate the woke, vote for Biden

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... en/616845/

I just tried - it wouldn't bloody let me.

[fishfoodie]

Nice to see that Fox News is playing a blinder.

First, by accident; with Mr Big Brain, Tucker shows what a complete fuckwit, & shill he is; by claiming that his dog ate his homework ... & then when they make the mistake of questioning the credibility, & complete hypocrisy of Giuliani in an interview; to which he has a meltdown over, & stomps off.

and for good measure one of their employees manages to trash the integrity of the whole Fox/NI org, with a less than fulsome defence of Rupert Murdock

[fishfoodie]

Finally, after four years of his Presidency; the shitgibbon has said something I can agree with !

President Donald on Wednesday evening referred to RINOs—an initialism for Republicans in Name Only—as "the lowest form of human life."

Lest anyone forget; this was the GOP Candidate who was never a Republican Party member; & gave political contributions to numerous NY Democrats; & often appeared supporting Bill Clinton, & other Dems.

[DAC]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

[Fangle]

Biden said that he would tell us what his plans were for the Supreme Court sfter Barret had been processed. Everything went as predicted by everyone. I have stopped watching all political news etc for a while now, so I am wondering what these plans are.

[Uncle fester]

Biden said that he would tell us what his plans were for the Supreme Court sfter Barret had been processed. Everything went as predicted by everyone. I have stopped watching all political news etc for a while now, so I am wondering what these plans are.

After the election is also "sfter Barret had been processed".

[Niegs]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Not having a go, but what's wrong with globalism?

[Fangle]

Biden said that he would tell us what his plans were for the Supreme Court sfter Barret had been processed. Everything went as predicted by everyone. I have stopped watching all political news etc for a while now, so I am wondering what these plans are.

After the election is also "sfter Barret had been processed".

So any time in the future before he dies?
I think he said before the voting, even though about half the expected voters have already voted.

[DAC]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Not having a go, but what's wrong with globalism?

Me neither but I take it you don't like the idea of the nation state, identity and sovereignty?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Not having a go, but what's wrong with globalism?

Me neither but I take it you don't like the idea of the nation state, identity and sovereignty?

It's not an either or. Indeed I'd suggest one can reinforce the other

[Rinkals]

Did anyone see Farage licking Trump's arse the other day?

Truly nauseating, but Donald lapped it up, as you;'d expect.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 05731.html

“That is what Donald Trump did: he beat the pollsters, beat the media and beat all the predictions and the worst thing is they have never forgiven him for it.

"Four years of the Russia hoax, four years of false impeachment, most human beings under that barrage would have given up.

“This is the single most resilient and bravest person I have ever met in my life.

“And when you vote next week you are not just voting for who the president of the United Sates of America is, as vital as that question may be.

“You are voting for the leader of the free world.

“You are voting for the only current leader in the free world who has got the guts to stand up and fight for the nation state, to fight for patriotism and to fight against globalism."

[sturginho]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Not having a go, but what's wrong with globalism?

Me neither but I take it you don't like the idea of the nation state, identity and sovereignty?

You hear that Niegs, your identity is under threat from the evil globalists! Luckily trump is here to save you!

[fishfoodie]

Did anyone see Farage licking Trump's arse the other day?

Truly nauseating, but Donald lapped it up, as you;'d expect.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 05731.html

“That is what Donald Trump did: he beat the pollsters, beat the media and beat all the predictions and the worst thing is they have never forgiven him for it.

"Four years of the Russia hoax, four years of false impeachment, most human beings under that barrage would have given up.

“This is the single most resilient and bravest person I have ever met in my life.

“And when you vote next week you are not just voting for who the president of the United Sates of America is, as vital as that question may be.

“You are voting for the leader of the free world.

“You are voting for the only current leader in the free world who has got the guts to stand up and fight for the nation state, to fight for patriotism and to fight against globalism."

Ferret face heard he was thinking about setting up a propaganda network; & seeing as he promised to leave the UK if Brexit was a disaster ......

[TB63]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Fucking Hell DAC, put down the reefer. ..

[Rinkals]

I think Trump is the last, great hope against out and out globalism. I really hope he manages to win. If he does it will be an even more impressive victory than the first win given what he's had to face.

Fucking Hell DAC, put down the reefer. ..

I don't think drugs can get you to that level of alternate reality, to be fair.

[DAC]

Trump is the best US president the world has seen in a long time. He has achieved more in 3.5 years than Obama did in 8 if you're actually honest about it.

Thank you, Mr President.

[ScarfaceClaw]

Trump is the best US president the world has seen in a long time. He has achieved more in 3.5 years than Obama did in 8 if you're actually honest about it.

Thank you, Mr President.

Chumming the waters there Daiquiri. Surely no one will bite that obvious bait.

[DAC]

Nope, PT has done a great job......told China to fuck off, sat down with North Korea, sorted out a massive peace deal in the ME, created so many jobs that unemployment levels among the BAME communities were at an all time low, didn't start one fucking war and didn't feed the IMC, I could go on.

But, Orange Man Bad!, right?

[Sandstorm]

“Fighting globalism”

DAC is actually Nigel Farage? Well it’s not such a stretch really.....

[Fat Old Git]

He also ended the Covid-19 pandemic. Don't forget to credit him for that.

[penguin]

Nope, PT has done a great job......told China to fuck off, sat down with North Korea, sorted out a massive peace deal in the ME, created so many jobs that unemployment levels among the BAME communities were at an all time low, didn't start one fucking war and didn't feed the IMC, I could go on.

But, Orange Man Bad!, right?

I know you could go on...Trump supporters always can. Doesn't make any of it factual.

[obelixtim]

Massive peace deal in the ME. As if Israel and the UAE have ever had a fight.

I'd love to see someone punch slimy Farage right in the face.

[Raggs]

Massive peace deal in the ME. As if Israel and the UAE have ever had a fight.

I'd love to see someone punch slimy Farage right in the face.

They've been working together for years now, taking the next step to make ties official is nice, but it's a long way from peace in the middle east.

[Rinkals]

Massive peace deal in the ME. As if Israel and the UAE have ever had a fight.

I'd love to see someone punch slimy Farage right in the face.

They've been working together for years now, taking the next step to make ties official is nice, but it's a long way from peace in the middle east.

"D'yer think Sleepy Joe coulda done such a good job, eh, Bibi? Huh? Do Ya?"

To be quite honest, Netanyahu knows exactly how to play the brain-dead oaf and has probably extracted all the concessions that are practically possible in negotiating.

Frarage's game, too, is transparently clear.

As for Erdogan, he's probably laughing his cock off at how easy Trump is to manipulate. Him and Kim Jong Un. Putin, however, is probably in despair.

[fishfoodie]

In keeping with the rest of this calamitous administrations plans; their efforts to suppress the opposition vote, has backfired tremendously !

The early voting, & record levels of young voters is all leading to a record turnout with days still to go.

Given how much work the GOP spent on trying to deny these voters their say, this doesn't look good for any GOP candidates on the ballots. A record turnout will also make trying to reverse anything in the courts incredibly difficult, & it's hard to imagine too many Judges want to touch it with a barge pole.

[Ovals]

In keeping with the rest of this calamitous administrations plans; their efforts to suppress the opposition vote, has backfired tremendously !

The early voting, & record levels of young voters is all leading to a record turnout with days still to go.

Given how much work the GOP spent on trying to deny these voters their say, this doesn't look good for any GOP candidates on the ballots. A record turnout will also make trying to reverse anything in the courts incredibly difficult, & it's hard to imagine too many Judges want to touch it with a barge pole.

Yep - the polls have remained very consistent throughout the campaign. Trump recovered a bit from his disastrous performances in the debates (especially the 1st one) but his attempts to smear Biden have fallen on deaf ears - and the smears have turned into a bit of a farce for the Republicans.

Five Thirtyeight give Trump a one in ten chance of winning. The Economist give him a one in 20 chance. He's toast.

[fishfoodie]

In keeping with the rest of this calamitous administrations plans; their efforts to suppress the opposition vote, has backfired tremendously !

The early voting, & record levels of young voters is all leading to a record turnout with days still to go.

Given how much work the GOP spent on trying to deny these voters their say, this doesn't look good for any GOP candidates on the ballots. A record turnout will also make trying to reverse anything in the courts incredibly difficult, & it's hard to imagine too many Judges want to touch it with a barge pole.

Yep - the polls have remained very consistent throughout the campaign. Trump recovered a bit from his disastrous performances in the debates (especially the 1st one) but his attempts to smear Biden have fallen on deaf ears - and the smears have turned into a bit of a farce for the Republicans.

Five Thirtyeight give Trump a one in ten chance of winning. The Economist give him a one in 20 chance. He's toast.

and not just him, but a lot of Republicans on the down ballot too.

There's going to be an enormous amount of anger against the GOP leadership after this; & the donors aren't going to be interested in putting money into supporting a bunch of imbeciles.

[Ali Cadoo]

'Massive middle east deal' - get tae fuck! That was like inviting two of your best mates to a party and then celebrating when they both accepted. Typical of Trump's desperation to get anything - anything - in the win column.

Now, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem? that was a ballsy play, and one I can credit Trump with (although it was probably not his idea!).

Inheriting an economy that was on the up from Obama? Please.... if Corona hadn't come along, Trump would have fucked the economy like he fucked all of his businesses.

[fishfoodie]

Now, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem? that was a ballsy play, and one I can credit Trump with (although it was probably not his idea!).

That was an idiotic move too; what did the US get in exchange for this major leverage point ?

Nothing !

It was a gift to Bibi.

All it did was show Palestinians that there was no point engaging with this Administration. Four wasted years, & more settlements being illegally built; & more shit to be unraveled before any meaningful peace deal ca ever be done.

[Flockwitt]

In keeping with the rest of this calamitous administrations plans; their efforts to suppress the opposition vote, has backfired tremendously !

The early voting, & record levels of young voters is all leading to a record turnout with days still to go.

Given how much work the GOP spent on trying to deny these voters their say, this doesn't look good for any GOP candidates on the ballots. A record turnout will also make trying to reverse anything in the courts incredibly difficult, & it's hard to imagine too many Judges want to touch it with a barge pole.

Yep - the polls have remained very consistent throughout the campaign. Trump recovered a bit from his disastrous performances in the debates (especially the 1st one) but his attempts to smear Biden have fallen on deaf ears - and the smears have turned into a bit of a farce for the Republicans.

Five Thirtyeight give Trump a one in ten chance of winning. The Economist give him a one in 20 chance. He's toast.

and not just him, but a lot of Republicans on the down ballot too.

There's going to be an enormous amount of anger against the GOP leadership after this; & the donors aren't going to be interested in putting money into supporting a bunch of imbeciles.

If only it were true. Let's not forget it's the donor's who have pretty much put the GOP in this position. Sell your soul to corporations and the NRA and the military complex and it's empowering the short term that becomes the primary goal.

And the Dems still need to win the senate which is not easy even with a blue wave given the nature of the gerrymandering that was done in the USA after 2010. No senate and big chunk of what Trump has undone will stay that way.

[Niegs]

I'm a bit of a rare Canuck who isn't a fan of (ice) hockey, and it doesn't surprise me that rich white man who lives in Florida probably wants to avoid being taxed extra by Biden, but fudging lying about how Trump treats everyone fairly... FFS!

[Hugo]

Its a cultural thing.

The likes of Bobby Orr, Don Cherry are always going to buy into the appeal of someone who presents themselves as plain speaking. These old guys hate stuff like political correctness and in Trump they see a repudiation of that culture.

[Rinkals]

Whereas us older guys love this sort of thing.



What a pair of tossers.

[eldanielfire]

Wow, Michael Moore really goes into the conspiracy theories here at about 9 minutes:



Sadly the bit I agree with him is there will be a lot of BS and lawyers thrown about after the election. But I've never seen Sagaar and Krystal look nervous about something, they obviously think Moore went off the deep end here.

[fishfoodie]

Wow, Michael Moore really goes into the conspiracy theories here at about 9 minutes:

Sadly the bit I agree with him is there will be a lot of BS and lawyers thrown about after the election. But I've never seen Sagaar and Krystal look nervous about something, they obviously think Moore went off the deep end here.

I can understand the reluctance to look at the polls, & call a result; because in 2016, networks did this, & looked like complete asses on election day.

But ... 4 days before election day 2016; there weren't 80 million votes cast !

With that number of votes cast; polls aren't so much polls; as they are exit polls !

The imponderable now is how the inevitable court cases play out; & that depends on just how big the margins are in States

I have a feeling that the courts will end up looking at what the polls said was the margin; & what the final vote was; & if there isn't a major discrepancy; they'll say the vote looks legitimate.

[Sinkers]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46824649

This whole big beautiful wall thing - sum total new wall built where none existed before - 15 Miles

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Biden camp reporting problems with turnout in black and latino communities. Whether that's a real concern or an attempt to get people to polling stations I don't know

[Flockwitt]

Yeah, I've found this negative sale tactic quite common. We've got a problem! Get worried! Get involved!

[Monkey Magic]

Yeah, I've found this negative sale tactic quite common. We've got a problem! Get worried! Get involved!

Worked for the greens in nz. We might not make 5% = their supporters get out and a few Labour voters switch