South African teams vote to join an expanded Pro 14

[assfly]

We are playing Up North. 80% of our Lions starting 15 will be from European Clubs. Here. First.

And what will this staring XV look like...?

[Sandstorm]

We are playing Up North. 80% of our Lions starting 15 will be from European Clubs. Here. First.

And what will this staring XV look like...?

Kitshoff, Sale, Toulon, PSDT, Duane, Toulon, Willemse

[sturginho]

This nonsense is getting out of hand now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55417014

[OomStruisbaai]

The nonsense is a reality

[Ted.]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

[fishfoodie]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

No play, no pay !

[Ted.]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

No play, no pay !

Absolutely.

It must be a terrible quandary for the poor Saffas. Geez, talk about discombobulation.

[Carter's Choice]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

Will the South Africans demand to receive their share of TV rights from the Pro 18, even if they don't participate because they are too scared of COVID-19? Because that's what the SARU did this year with the Rugby Championship, and every South African poster on this forum aside from Sards thought it was both justified and funny. Celtic posters, how do you feel about giving up a huge chunk of your TV revenue for teams that stay home?

[Sandstorm]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

Idiot

[fishfoodie]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

Will the South Africans demand to receive their share of TV rights from the Pro 18, even if they don't participate because they are too scared of COVID-19? Because that's what the SARU did this year with the Rugby Championship, and every South African poster on this forum aside from Sards thought it was both justified and funny. Celtic posters, how do you feel about giving up a huge chunk of your TV revenue for teams that stay home?

It depends on how the income changes from the existing product.

The Pro14 has been running for a few years now, & if, say; the TV income increases by 20%; then a reasonable deal would be to split that additional income between the incoming teams.

There's an existing model for how the league operates, & that's what the existing teams have planned their budgets to; the addition of different teams can't be allowed to screw up the existing teams plans. The other factor is that integrating the new teams, will add a considerable cost to running the competition, with all the flights & accommodation, & covid crap; I think that has to be paid for, for everyone, before anyone gets paid.

I do hope the SA teams have better attendances than what we usually see; that's probably their best hope of improving their finances; it's possible that having a full weekends of games, with their teams games happening at good times thru the day, will be a better fit for them; a bit part of the problem is that they play in stadia that are just too bloody big.

[Carter's Choice]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

Idiot

Why is he an idiot? The SARU have proudly established their criteria for playing Rugby. This criteria presumably stands for any future Rugby tournaments? 500 minutes of high quality Rugby prior to any tournament commencing to prepare their players, and zero risk of contracting COVID-19 for their players and staff. This standard has now been clearly established as a precedent, and I look forward to the Pro 18 meeting these guidelines now and into the future.

[fishfoodie]

If the South Africans would not travel to Australia this year, how are they going to pluck up the courage to travel to Europe several times when the pandemic is worse than ever in South Africa and the GB and Ireland destinations?

Actually, more to the point, given what is going down in South Africa, how will the European based South Africans feel about travelling back to South Africa to play. On their past record, using South Africans own rationales, it simply will not happen.

Idiot

Why is he an idiot? The SARU have proudly established their criteria for playing Rugby. This criteria presumably stands for any future Rugby tournaments? 500 minutes of high quality Rugby prior to any tournament commencing to prepare their players, and zero risk of contracting COVID-19 for their players and staff. This standard has now been clearly established as a precedent, and I look forward to the Pro 18 meeting these guidelines now and into the future.

There'll be 16 teams; & deliberately mis-stating the number makes you look like an arsehole....

[assfly]

Wonderful news.

Not sure why there are Kiwis on here moaning. You can look forward to playing against the likes of the Suva Starfish, Apia Aquatics and the Nuku'alofa Tornados in the 2021 Super Whatever competition.

[Carter's Choice]

There'll be 16 teams; & deliberately mis-stating the number makes you look like an arsehole....

As a SH Rugby fan I have had to put up with smart arse NH trolls deliberately mi-stating the number of teams in Super Rugby for years and years. Now that you guys have the oversized, bloated tournament, and will presumably be expanding every year or two with new franchises being added depending on how the SARU feel, I look forward to returning the favour

[OomStruisbaai]

There'll be 16 teams; & deliberately mis-stating the number makes you look like an arsehole....

As a SH Rugby fan I have had to put up with smart arse NH trolls deliberately mi-stating the number of teams in Super Rugby for years and years. Now that you guys have the oversized, bloated tournament, and will presumably be expanding every year or two with new franchises being added depending on how the SARU feel, I look forward to returning the favour

Dunno why you keep show your jealousy. NZ wanted us out, starting their own Superugby
journey. Blame Robinson and go vok yourself once you finish.

We should have gone north ages ago.

[Carter's Choice]

There'll be 16 teams; & deliberately mis-stating the number makes you look like an arsehole....

As a SH Rugby fan I have had to put up with smart arse NH trolls deliberately mi-stating the number of teams in Super Rugby for years and years. Now that you guys have the oversized, bloated tournament, and will presumably be expanding every year or two with new franchises being added depending on how the SARU feel, I look forward to returning the favour

Dunno why you keep show your jealousy. NZ wanted us out, starting their own Superugby
journey. Blame Robinson and go vok yourself once you finish.

We should have gone north ages ago.

Dumb post.

Why would we go North? Rugby is a summer sport in NZ & Australia. Besides, I hate 3am kick-offs, that's why I hated South African involvement in SR.

As an aside, are you demanding your own referees like you did with us? I look forward to seeing how the Celtic fans react to 20-1 penalty counts when their teams visit South Africa.

[Caley_Red]

As a SH Rugby fan I have had to put up with smart arse NH trolls deliberately mi-stating the number of teams in Super Rugby for years and years. Now that you guys have the oversized, bloated tournament, and will presumably be expanding every year or two with new franchises being added depending on how the SARU feel, I look forward to returning the favour

Dunno why you keep show your jealousy. NZ wanted us out, starting their own Superugby
journey. Blame Robinson and go vok yourself once you finish.

We should have gone north ages ago.

Dumb post.

Why would we go North? Rugby is a summer sport in NZ & Australia. Besides, I hate 3am kick-offs, that's why I hated South African involvement in SR.

As an aside, are you demanding your own referees like you did with us? I look forward to seeing how the Celtic fans react to 20-1 penalty counts when their teams visit South Africa.

Your rage at SA and SA clubs is without parallel

[OomStruisbaai]

As a SH Rugby fan I have had to put up with smart arse NH trolls deliberately mi-stating the number of teams in Super Rugby for years and years. Now that you guys have the oversized, bloated tournament, and will presumably be expanding every year or two with new franchises being added depending on how the SARU feel, I look forward to returning the favour

Dunno why you keep show your jealousy. NZ wanted us out, starting their own Superugby
journey. Blame Robinson and go vok yourself once you finish.

We should have gone north ages ago.

Dumb post.

Why would we go North? Rugby is a summer sport in NZ & Australia. Besides, I hate 3am kick-offs, that's why I hated South African involvement in SR.

As an aside, are you demanding your own referees like you did with us? I look forward to seeing how the Celtic fans react to 20-1 penalty counts when their teams visit South Africa.

Dumb post?

You'll end up north to survive financially. Hope Saru pull the plug on the RC and Sanzar and you'll be force to follow.

[Ted.]

Wonderful news.

Not sure why there are Kiwis on here moaning. You can look forward to playing against the likes of the Suva Starfish, Apia Aquatics and the Nuku'alofa Tornados in the 2021 Super Whatever competition.

Who is moaning?

It's great entertainment.

[Sandstorm]

You'll end up north to survive financially.

Japan? That'll be funny, half the players up there are old Saffers so AC will ever be rid of us!

[OomStruisbaai]

Wonderful news.

Not sure why there are Kiwis on here moaning. You can look forward to playing against the likes of the Suva Starfish, Apia Aquatics and the Nuku'alofa Tornados in the 2021 Super Whatever competition.

Who is moaning?

It's great entertainment.

Great entertainment joking about our Corvid-19 crisis.?

[Ted.]

Wonderful news.

Not sure why there are Kiwis on here moaning. You can look forward to playing against the likes of the Suva Starfish, Apia Aquatics and the Nuku'alofa Tornados in the 2021 Super Whatever competition.

Who is moaning?

It's great entertainment.

Great entertainment joking about our Corvid-19 crisis.?

No, your rugby and your attitude. You can take umbrage if you like though. It's not as if it's not in your nature.

[handyman]

Who is moaning?

It's great entertainment.

Great entertainment joking about our Corvid-19 crisis.?

No, your rugby and your attitude. You can take umbrage if you like though. It's not as if it's not in your nature.

I'm a pretty great guy, but I'm not sure I can convince our government and SARU that we should allow international rugby in the middle of our second wave.

Why not stick to moaning about your coach and strongest 15 and let us do our thing up North peanut.

[OomStruisbaai]

Who is moaning?

It's great entertainment.

Great entertainment joking about our Corvid-19 crisis.?

No, your rugby and your attitude. You can take umbrage if you like though. It's not as if it's not in your nature.

It's weird, few years ago with the CC earthquake you lot wanted posters to be ban trolling it. Now you lot do exactly the same.

What kind of kunt nature is this?

[Fangle]

AC doesn’t speak for all New Zealanders any more than Sards speaks for all of us, so don’t tar them with the same vile brush.

[OomStruisbaai]

AC doesn’t speak for all New Zealanders any more than Sards speaks for all of us, so don’t tar them with the same vile brush.

Sure didn't expect it from Ted. He use to be a good one.

[Chilli]

Idiot

Why is he an idiot? The SARU have proudly established their criteria for playing Rugby. This criteria presumably stands for any future Rugby tournaments? 500 minutes of high quality Rugby prior to any tournament commencing to prepare their players, and zero risk of contracting COVID-19 for their players and staff. This standard has now been clearly established as a precedent, and I look forward to the Pro 18 meeting these guidelines now and into the future.

There'll be 16 teams; & deliberately mis-stating the number makes you look like an arsehole....

It is AC afterall. A well known liar.

[Chilli]

Certain NZ posters just can't let go.
When we were in a competition together they wanted us gone.
Now we are going they are hysterically carrying on because we have left.
Almost like a battered wife............

[OomStruisbaai]

Certain NZ posters just can't let go.
When we were in a competition together they wanted us gone.
Now we are going they are hysterically carrying on because we have left.
Almost like a battered wife............

Sure is. They had their fame and just can't handled being nr 3.

Sad lot

[Dan54]

Ok, I will say I will miss the SA teams in Super rugby. I understand why it has all come to pass, but I know I just an old bastard, but SA vs NZ rugby at any form is still my favourite.
I don't care if I have to get up early or late whatever the case maybe, I do it when ABs are playing Wales etc (and would never knowingly miss a Welsh test either) and would get up when Canes played in SA and recorded other matches.

[Sandstorm]

Ok, I will say I will miss the SA teams in Super rugby. I understand why it has all come to pass, but I know I just an old bastard, but SA vs NZ rugby at any form is still my favourite.
I don't care if I have to get up early or late whatever the case maybe, I do it when ABs are playing Wales etc (and would never knowingly miss a Welsh test either) and would get up when Canes played in SA and recorded other matches.

Good lad Dan. Not like that League-loving whinger AC.

[Chilli]

Ok, I will say I will miss the SA teams in Super rugby. I understand why it has all come to pass, but I know I just an old bastard, but SA vs NZ rugby at any form is still my favourite.
I don't care if I have to get up early or late whatever the case maybe, I do it when ABs are playing Wales etc (and would never knowingly miss a Welsh test either) and would get up when Canes played in SA and recorded other matches.

You are a true rugby supporter.

[Chilli]

Ok, I will say I will miss the SA teams in Super rugby. I understand why it has all come to pass, but I know I just an old bastard, but SA vs NZ rugby at any form is still my favourite.
I don't care if I have to get up early or late whatever the case maybe, I do it when ABs are playing Wales etc (and would never knowingly miss a Welsh test either) and would get up when Canes played in SA and recorded other matches.

Good lad Dan. Not like that League-loving whinger AC.

You forgot to mention his constant lying

[Fangle]

To my mind AC has a very nasty streak, despite being an excellent analyst of AB’s rugby.

Years ago he used to start threads with the subject of “Let’s laugh at X’, the losing team. And also he admitted that he gets some sort of sexual pleasure in winding people up. And too often we rise to his blatant bait.

[Chilli]

To my mind AC has a very nasty streak, despite being an excellent analyst of AB’s rugby.

Years ago he used to start threads with the subject of “Let’s laugh at X’, the losing team. And also he admitted that he gets some sort of sexual pleasure in winding people up. And too often we rise to his blatant bait.

Yeah.

[OomStruisbaai]

To my mind AC has a very nasty streak, despite being an excellent analyst of AB’s rugby.

Years ago he used to start threads with the subject of “Let’s laugh at X’, the losing team. And also he admitted that he gets some sort of sexual pleasure in winding people up. And too often we rise to his blatant bait.

That's so weird. Probably his Aussie RL background. It's worse then soccer supporters.

Now he troll aIds and Corvid crisisse.

True rugby culture is war between the lines, friends from it.

[Chilli]

To my mind AC has a very nasty streak, despite being an excellent analyst of AB’s rugby.

Years ago he used to start threads with the subject of “Let’s laugh at X’, the losing team. And also he admitted that he gets some sort of sexual pleasure in winding people up. And too often we rise to his blatant bait.

That's so weird. Probably his Aussie RL background. It's worse then soccer supporters.

Now he troll aIds and Corvid crisisse.

True rugby culture is war between the lines, friends from it.

Yeah, after the whistle has blown AC would still be a cunt.

[OomStruisbaai]

ASMO should ban him trolling us on Corvid-19. He contribute sweet vokol to this board. If we had a South African mod, he would be gone long ago.

[Chilli]

ASMO should ban him trolling us on Corvid-19. He contribute sweet vokol to this board. If we had a South African mod, he would be gone long ago.

If there was a South African MOD most of us would have been banned by now.

[Sards]

AC doesn’t speak for all New Zealanders any more than Sards speaks for all of us, so don’t tar them with the same vile brush.

Nasty..