2020/21 Carling Currie Cup
- average joe
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If Notshe had half a brain he would have passed it to the WP player there.
Last time these two teams met at Loftus, the Bulls moered the saarkies 41-14. Let's hope the saarkies can front up this time, at least put up a fight.Sards wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 pm Carling Currie Cup Final match information:
Vodacom Bulls v Cell C Sharks
Date: Saturday, 30 January 2021
Time: 15h00
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Referee: Jaco Peyper
Assistant Referees: AJ Jacobs and Griffin Colby
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen
Reserve Referee: Rasta Rasivhenge
TV: SuperSport Grandstand and Rugby
For all those whose teams are playing this weekend...
And for those whose team is not playing
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
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Vokol penaltyassfly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:43 pmSee my post above. Penalty only. Would have been an easy 3 points for the Sharks.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:39 pm No, you know now that you mention it I recon Davids should be sanctioned. What do you think, 6 weeks off? Or is that to harsh, perhaps 4 weeks?
Just asking for the laws of the game to be applied fairly and consistently.
Moet ek dit vir jou in afrikaans vertaal?Rugby players regularly and with impunity tackle opponents who are running, i.e. have their feet off the ground. ... Law 10.4 (i) Tackling the jumper in the air. A player must not tackle nor tap, push or pull the foot or feet of an opponent jumping for the ball in a line-out or in open play
Thanks Oom, glad you did some research and have reinforced by position on the illegality of the tackle.
Thankfully Nohamba wasn't hurt, which is the main thing.
It's easy to look past these seemingly small things when a team wins a semi-final even though they were underdogs playing away from home. But justice delayed is justice denied.
Thankfully Nohamba wasn't hurt, which is the main thing.
It's easy to look past these seemingly small things when a team wins a semi-final even though they were underdogs playing away from home. But justice delayed is justice denied.
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Vok I always classify you as a good humble supporter. Now you are as bad shite as Sards.assfly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:52 pm Thanks Oom, glad you did some research and have reinforced by position on the illegality of the tackle.
Thankfully Nohamba wasn't hurt, which is the main thing.
It's easy to look past these seemingly small things when a team wins a semi-final even though they were underdogs playing away from home. But justice delayed is justice denied.
First Monday after a semi-final win. We have bragging rights. All about the final from tomorrow.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:39 pm Vok I always classify you as a good humble supporter. Now you are as bad shite as Sards.
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Wat jy waar kry? Stay always humble in victory.assfly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:59 pmFirst Monday after a semi-final win. We have bragging rights. All about the final from tomorrow.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:39 pm Vok I always classify you as a good humble supporter. Now you are as bad shite as Sards.
You are hardly the gold standard for humility on here, Oom.
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Check what I mean....cocky old shit hasn't registered yet that ..........WE ARE THE TITLE HOLDERS OF BEING THE LAST VICTORS AT NEWLANDSOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:33 pmNee Boet, that's not my style. But I understand where you come from. Sards is n poes, so I expect it from him. Not you.
That stigma is going to haunt WP forever...and ouboet never saw it happen.
We came and owned their stadium, their women and their rugby....took their sponsorship deal too
So much for a final at Newlands....boo hoo
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You should have a t-shirt madeSards wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:36 pmCheck what I mean....cocky old shit hasn't registered yet that ..........WE ARE THE TITLE HOLDERS OF BEING THE LAST VICTORS AT NEWLANDSOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:33 pmNee Boet, that's not my style. But I understand where you come from. Sards is n poes, so I expect it from him. Not you.
That stigma is going to haunt WP forever...and ouboet never saw it happen.
We came and owned their stadium, their women and their rugby....took their sponsorship deal too
So much for a final at Newlands....boo hoo
Really trying to move on to the finalists but it just keeps on giving.
So rumors doing thr rounds are that 16 players are unhappy atm at WP....
I don't get it...why now want to run ... the players are part of the problem. They have accepted the boardroom shit by never forcing their opinions. How stupid must Gelant feel. If they had won on Saturday it would be a completely different story.
Why don't they just desert WP and form The Stormers. A professionally and invested union based either in Paar or Stellenbosch
So rumors doing thr rounds are that 16 players are unhappy atm at WP....
I don't get it...why now want to run ... the players are part of the problem. They have accepted the boardroom shit by never forcing their opinions. How stupid must Gelant feel. If they had won on Saturday it would be a completely different story.
Why don't they just desert WP and form The Stormers. A professionally and invested union based either in Paar or Stellenbosch
Stopping Duane is going to be a greater challenge than the past weekend. He is looking in very fine form. One of my all time greatest players. He just keeps on giving. And his experience as a captain cannot be overlooked. He won a rwc against a highly favored England leading the boks.
The backline is full of rugby smart players who can open up any team on the day. Cornel is looking hungry. We are going to have to watch him closely.
Rassie must be in his element because on the field will be 2 of the best flyhalfs with the complete kicking game. Bosch will have to tone down his kicking game at altitude whilst Morne will feel very comfortable. Expect a lot of grabbers and cross kicks. Last time Bosch won the duel...Morne will want to rectify that.
Fassi hasn't shown much yet but I am hoping it changes this weekend.
Have some mates coming around so let's hope its a good onr
The backline is full of rugby smart players who can open up any team on the day. Cornel is looking hungry. We are going to have to watch him closely.
Rassie must be in his element because on the field will be 2 of the best flyhalfs with the complete kicking game. Bosch will have to tone down his kicking game at altitude whilst Morne will feel very comfortable. Expect a lot of grabbers and cross kicks. Last time Bosch won the duel...Morne will want to rectify that.
Fassi hasn't shown much yet but I am hoping it changes this weekend.
Have some mates coming around so let's hope its a good onr
If we can deal with Duane and Marco, then we've got a chance. We did it before so we can do it again. Our breakdown game against WP was pretty decent, but we'll have to be much sharper against the Bulls.
That said, I suspect we'll see more of the same from the Sharks and they'll prefer to kick it than chance one-off runners.
That said, I suspect we'll see more of the same from the Sharks and they'll prefer to kick it than chance one-off runners.
The Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:45 am If we can deal with Duane and Marco, then we've got a chance. We did it before so we can do it again. Our breakdown game against WP was pretty decent, but we'll have to be much sharper against the Bulls.
That said, I suspect we'll see more of the same from the Sharks and they'll prefer to kick it than chance one-off runners.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
The kicking rugby is ugly lets make no bones about it....it goes against everything that running rugby fans love....I cant stand it and wish Bosch would run it more which is his natural game in any event......but......its Rassie rugby ......executed perfectly by Bosch...and its winning games.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:45 am If we can deal with Duane and Marco, then we've got a chance. We did it before so we can do it again. Our breakdown game against WP was pretty decent, but we'll have to be much sharper against the Bulls.
That said, I suspect we'll see more of the same from the Sharks and they'll prefer to kick it than chance one-off runners.
Just like we can say that WP plays ugly winning rugby where every game is reduced to scrumming...we can say that the Sharks are embracing kicking rugby which is ugly as vok ....but are winning.
Yeah, its a dang sharp double edged sword.
But you know that Morne is going to try show Bosch who is king of the castle on Saturday...loads at stake for him after he failed against Bosch last time...so he will either run it more , or kick the leather off the ball....I think they may just run it at first to test our defense.....
We are going to have to be sharp and watch Cornel and Duane first up or we are going to leak tries early on.
We hold them , Morne will go to the boot and we will be able to field a strong contest....
Lets be honest...without Ginger the WP pack was dead in the water....the Bulls would have slaughtered them , butchered them , hung them to dry and then vokken grilled them over the coals.....Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:23 amThe Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:45 am If we can deal with Duane and Marco, then we've got a chance. We did it before so we can do it again. Our breakdown game against WP was pretty decent, but we'll have to be much sharper against the Bulls.
That said, I suspect we'll see more of the same from the Sharks and they'll prefer to kick it than chance one-off runners.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
We based our game plan on attacking the loose ball....Marius vokked our game up 10 null when he saw how effective it was , so the boys are going to have to be more accurate as the ref will be watching it...the experience of Duane will make him shine here....but our boys are young and hungry....this is just another outing for Duane. Its going to come down to tactics and execution....two of the best backlines in action here so thats going to be interesting...lets see who's general wakes up on the right side of the bed here.
What I am looking forward to.....seeing our wings in action , feeding off Fassi....nothing more beautiful than our back 3 destroying teams.
What I am not looking forward to.....inaccurate passing , slippery hands and referred tries
I don't think a coach of JW's quality will allow that to happen again so easily. To win I think the Sharks are going to have to vary their game and bring our strike runners into play, but that's not exactly finals rugby.Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:23 am The Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
No.................it would be nice to have a running match tho...assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:22 amI don't think a coach of JW's quality will allow that to happen again so easily. To win I think the Sharks are going to have to vary their game and bring our strike runners into play, but that's not exactly finals rugby.Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:23 am The Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
The tactics are going to be very interesting. MS has shown glimpses of being able to run the ball and vary his game.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:22 amI don't think a coach of JW's quality will allow that to happen again so easily. To win I think the Sharks are going to have to vary their game and bring our strike runners into play, but that's not exactly finals rugby.Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:23 am The Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
Can Curwin do the same?;
Of course he can....that was his natural game....They worked with him this year to perfect the kicking game out of hand...which we have discussed is as ugly as vok......but its working......would love the Sharks to spring a surprise and use our backline on attack...Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:59 amThe tactics are going to be very interesting. MS has shown glimpses of being able to run the ball and vary his game.assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:22 amI don't think a coach of JW's quality will allow that to happen again so easily. To win I think the Sharks are going to have to vary their game and bring our strike runners into play, but that's not exactly finals rugby.Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:23 am The Sharks dealt with the Bulls pack quiet effectively last time, so it wouldn't surprise me if they nullified the Bulls pack again.
The Sharks also made a WP pack ,that contained that contained no less than 3 2019 RWC winners, their play things. So I don't expect the Bulls to have any advantage up front .
Can Curwin do the same?;
Did you see it on Facebook?Sards wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:54 pm Really trying to move on to the finalists but it just keeps on giving.
So rumors doing thr rounds are that 16 players are unhappy atm at WP....
I don't get it...why now want to run ... the players are part of the problem. They have accepted the boardroom shit by never forcing their opinions. How stupid must Gelant feel. If they had won on Saturday it would be a completely different story.
Why don't they just desert WP and form The Stormers. A professionally and invested union based either in Paar or Stellenbosch
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
Sorry boet, there can only ever be one eggman. You've made your name tottie too many times.
But hey, you're good for a laugh every now and again, so keep on keeping on.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
No, have you seen somethinghandyman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:55 amDid you see it on Facebook?Sards wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:54 pm Really trying to move on to the finalists but it just keeps on giving.
So rumors doing thr rounds are that 16 players are unhappy atm at WP....
I don't get it...why now want to run ... the players are part of the problem. They have accepted the boardroom shit by never forcing their opinions. How stupid must Gelant feel. If they had won on Saturday it would be a completely different story.
Why don't they just desert WP and form The Stormers. A professionally and invested union based either in Paar or Stellenbosch
I couldn't, because there isn't.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:56 amNo, have you seen somethinghandyman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:55 amDid you see it on Facebook?Sards wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:54 pm Really trying to move on to the finalists but it just keeps on giving.
So rumors doing thr rounds are that 16 players are unhappy atm at WP....
I don't get it...why now want to run ... the players are part of the problem. They have accepted the boardroom shit by never forcing their opinions. How stupid must Gelant feel. If they had won on Saturday it would be a completely different story.
Why don't they just desert WP and form The Stormers. A professionally and invested union based either in Paar or Stellenbosch
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
From handyman to eggman.....embrace it lad....I have very seldom been wrong...we go through this time and time again.
Boet, you talk so much shit, you're bound to be right once in a while As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:57 amFrom handyman to eggman.....embrace it lad....I have very seldom been wrong...we go through this time and time again.
It's good that you are enjoying the win in the semi, it's been a tough year and we need the distraction.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
Can the Stomp attention seekers please leave their neediness at the door when they put on their caps...
The two champion teams are wanting to discuss rugby .... so put on a Bulls cap or a Sharks cap and lets make this a final to remember dudes.
Capish
The two champion teams are wanting to discuss rugby .... so put on a Bulls cap or a Sharks cap and lets make this a final to remember dudes.
Capish
Correction, there will only be one champion team, the other team is the first loser.
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Even if he is in the opposition team you have to love this guy.....As a player, Vermeulen has been physical and fearsome as a ball-carrier and on defence, while remaining typically influential at the breakdown. As a leader, he has also embraced the captaincy, and just this past Saturday was credited for the manner in which he inspired his teammates when the pressure came on in the second half of the first Currie Cup semi-final.
‘He was actually operating on another level,’ White commented. ‘And that’s what you want, you want your best players to perform in these crunch games, you want them delivering their best and Duane was one of them,’ he added.
Nothing but respect for DV. I expect nothing less than a MOTM performance from him on Saturday.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:45 amEven if he is in the opposition team you have to love this guy.....As a player, Vermeulen has been physical and fearsome as a ball-carrier and on defence, while remaining typically influential at the breakdown. As a leader, he has also embraced the captaincy, and just this past Saturday was credited for the manner in which he inspired his teammates when the pressure came on in the second half of the first Currie Cup semi-final.
‘He was actually operating on another level,’ White commented. ‘And that’s what you want, you want your best players to perform in these crunch games, you want them delivering their best and Duane was one of them,’ he added.