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Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:36 am
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:55 am

You really are desperately insecure.
He's the only one in this dialogue posting sense.
Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
Fuck me.

If took you two days to come up with that juvenile response?
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Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:00 pm
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:36 am

He's the only one in this dialogue posting sense.
Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
Fuck me.

If took you two days to come up with that juvenile response?
You clearly don’t even know what a day is so excuse me if I ignore your dribblings.
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wow
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Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:36 am
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:55 am

You really are desperately insecure.
He's the only one in this dialogue posting sense.
Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
What the fuck is this? Homophobic slurs to go with the rest of the bollocks you've been spouting? Fuck off you rancid old shite.
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He's posted some shite over the last few pages but ffs he needs to grow up.
No doubt just Barrack Room witticisms :roll:
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:09 pm
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:36 am

He's the only one in this dialogue posting sense.
Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
What the fuck is this? Homophobic slurs to go with the rest of the bollocks you've been spouting? Fuck off you rancid old shite.
Why is that a homophobic slur? Should I have said your significant other? 😂😂
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Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:25 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:09 pm
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm

Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
What the fuck is this? Homophobic slurs to go with the rest of the bollocks you've been spouting? Fuck off you rancid old shite.
Why is that a homophobic slur? Should I have said your significant other? 😂😂
Enjoy the rugby today? Haven’t seen you post on it.

And by the way, that’s a shit couple of comments.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Nah, dirty pool Openside.

That was homophobia, be big enough to own it.
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Slick wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:29 pm
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:25 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:09 pm

What the fuck is this? Homophobic slurs to go with the rest of the bollocks you've been spouting? Fuck off you rancid old shite.
Why is that a homophobic slur? Should I have said your significant other? 😂😂
Enjoy the rugby today? Haven’t seen you post on it.

And by the way, that’s a shit couple of comments.
Yes and no I find it very difficult to enjoy watching Scotland until they have won as they are always desperate to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Re comments I am sick of JM’s sanctimonious bollocks he is also a massive hypocrite. Where was his outrage over the last 14 years when all the OS is gay comments have been made (I don’t care enough to go back and search to see if he actually made jokes himself) ffs my login is pink on NPR. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!!
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Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:05 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:00 pm
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:09 pm

Careful, you will make his boyfriend jealous...🤔
Fuck me.

If took you two days to come up with that juvenile response?
You clearly don’t even know what a day is so excuse me if I ignore your dribblings.
Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
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Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:07 am
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:05 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:00 pm
Fuck me.

If took you two days to come up with that juvenile response?
You clearly don’t even know what a day is so excuse me if I ignore your dribblings.
Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
A few facts for you

1) I am retired
2) you flatter yourself, my ‘Witty response’ was solely in response to you arriving on your white charger riding to JM’s defence other than that I have given you no thought at all. But make it all about you if you want.
3) The fact that the suggestion that JM has a boyfriend is thought by both of you as a homophobic slur potentially says more about your opinions towards being homosexual than mine.
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Openside wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:16 am
Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:07 am
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:05 pm

You clearly don’t even know what a day is so excuse me if I ignore your dribblings.
Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
A few facts for you

1) I am retired
2) you flatter yourself, my ‘Witty response’ was solely in response to you arriving on your white charger riding to JM’s defence other than that I have given you no thought at all. But make it all about you if you want.
3) The fact that the suggestion that JM has a boyfriend is thought by both of you as a homophobic slur potentially says more about your opinions towards being homosexual than mine.
Yes.

I'm sure all of that makes perfect sense to you.

I remain uninterested in your excuses.
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Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:39 am
Openside wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:16 am
Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:07 am

Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
A few facts for you

1) I am retired
2) you flatter yourself, my ‘Witty response’ was solely in response to you arriving on your white charger riding to JM’s defence other than that I have given you no thought at all. But make it all about you if you want.
3) The fact that the suggestion that JM has a boyfriend is thought by both of you as a homophobic slur potentially says more about your opinions towards being homosexual than mine.
Yes.

I'm sure all of that makes perfect sense to you.

I remain uninterested in your excuses.
I can’t begin to tell you how upset that makes me <sob>
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I am equally indifferent, I'm afraid.
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Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:00 pm I am equally indifferent, I'm afraid.
So you keep telling me.
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Jesus, OS, stop being so bloody needy.

I've already said I'm not interested.
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Openside wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:06 pm
Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:00 pm I am equally indifferent, I'm afraid.
So you keep telling me.
FFS just stop responding and give it a rest then
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Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:26 pm Jesus, OS, stop being so bloody needy.

I've already said I'm not interested.
😂😂😂😂
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:39 am
Because he's a huge arse
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:39 am
Point of order, it was the dress that was the Union Flag, her knickers were black.

Although had she somehow been magically transported to my bedroom at the time, the dress would have stayed but the knickers would have been non-existent. After I had persuaded her not to call the police, and she had inexplicably fallen for my musky charms, obviously.
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So what's the story on this ?

Dear Prime Minister,

I am writing to formally tender my resignation. I have given this decision a lot of thought but think now is the right time to move on. Like many in the House, the chance to work in Her Majesty's government has been the ultimate privilege. I do not take for granted the opportunity to serve both my country, my party, and the Prime Minister. My particular gratitude will forever be with those that thought of me back in 2019.

The main thing that inspired me to say yes was the opportunity to carve out an offer for Britain's minority ethnic communities. One that was distinctively ours. One that spoke to individuals like they had agency over their lives. One that better explained inequality in Britain, and one that above all allowed people like me to feel like a valued part of Britain's island story.

It is well documented that black and Asian people are significantly less likely to vote Conservative, despite often having values that are aligned. The gains made under David Cameron in 2015 have been eroded in subsequent elections. Though we now have a coalition of voters to provide us with a much coveted majority, I fear for what may become of the party in the future by choosing to pursue a politics steeped in division.

Politics is of course an environment where there is always an opposition, an adversary. But I truly believe we have to consider others as best we can in our conduct. We can be firm, robust, but also civil and empathetic. I fear that empathy is a word not conducive to the culture that has been developed and the damage that is often caused by our actions is not much considered. As someone that has spent his whole adult life serving others, that tension has been at times unbearable. Last week, the actions of a Minister were concerning. I believe the Ministerial Code was breached. However, more concerning than the act, was the lack of response internally. It was not ok or justifiable, but somehow nothing was said. I waited, and waited, for something from the senior leadership team to even point to an expected standard, but it did not materialise.

There are things that make me so proud of my time at Number 10. We have put together a Commission on Race & Ethnic Disparities that has the potential to better explain an alternative world view on race relations in Britain. We set up the Windrush Working Group to deliver for the victims and have reformed the flawed compensation scheme that was built at pace by the previous administration. Moving the Social Mobility Commission closer to the centre will help the government to better explain what it means to 'level up'.

Minister Zahawi said that his current job will be the most important of his life. I would say that the work I have been doing on the vaccine rollout is also the most important thing that I have been involved in. We are in a battle against misinformation and mistrust that could result in more lives being lost than is necessary. I would therefore like to continue leading on this work from the centre, with the view to leaving at the end of May, a time when we would hope the vast majority of the country's adults would have received the first jab. There are two candidates that I believe are best suited to carry on the work that I have been involved with.

Yours faithfully,

Samuel Kasumu
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C69 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:58 pm So what's the story on this ?

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Dear Prime Minister,

I am writing to formally tender my resignation. I have given this decision a lot of thought but think now is the right time to move on. Like many in the House, the chance to work in Her Majesty's government has been the ultimate privilege. I do not take for granted the opportunity to serve both my country, my party, and the Prime Minister. My particular gratitude will forever be with those that thought of me back in 2019.

The main thing that inspired me to say yes was the opportunity to carve out an offer for Britain's minority ethnic communities. One that was distinctively ours. One that spoke to individuals like they had agency over their lives. One that better explained inequality in Britain, and one that above all allowed people like me to feel like a valued part of Britain's island story.

It is well documented that black and Asian people are significantly less likely to vote Conservative, despite often having values that are aligned. The gains made under David Cameron in 2015 have been eroded in subsequent elections. Though we now have a coalition of voters to provide us with a much coveted majority, I fear for what may become of the party in the future by choosing to pursue a politics steeped in division.

Politics is of course an environment where there is always an opposition, an adversary. But I truly believe we have to consider others as best we can in our conduct. We can be firm, robust, but also civil and empathetic. I fear that empathy is a word not conducive to the culture that has been developed and the damage that is often caused by our actions is not much considered. As someone that has spent his whole adult life serving others, that tension has been at times unbearable. Last week, the actions of a Minister were concerning. I believe the Ministerial Code was breached. However, more concerning than the act, was the lack of response internally. It was not ok or justifiable, but somehow nothing was said. I waited, and waited, for something from the senior leadership team to even point to an expected standard, but it did not materialise.

There are things that make me so proud of my time at Number 10. We have put together a Commission on Race & Ethnic Disparities that has the potential to better explain an alternative world view on race relations in Britain. We set up the Windrush Working Group to deliver for the victims and have reformed the flawed compensation scheme that was built at pace by the previous administration. Moving the Social Mobility Commission closer to the centre will help the government to better explain what it means to 'level up'.

Minister Zahawi said that his current job will be the most important of his life. I would say that the work I have been doing on the vaccine rollout is also the most important thing that I have been involved in. We are in a battle against misinformation and mistrust that could result in more lives being lost than is necessary. I would therefore like to continue leading on this work from the centre, with the view to leaving at the end of May, a time when we would hope the vast majority of the country's adults would have received the first jab. There are two candidates that I believe are best suited to carry on the work that I have been involved with.

Yours faithfully,

Samuel Kasumu

Sounds like he didn't get on with Badenoch and was only persuaded to stay by Zahawi
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55945281
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Peter Oborne stating the obvious
When Peter Oborne wrote The Rise of Political Lying, looking at the growth of political falsehood during the governments of John Major and Tony Blair, he believed things had got as bad as they could be. But then on 23 July 2019, with the arrival of Boris Johnson at No 10, began a new and unprecedented epidemic of deceit.

In The Assault on Truth, a short and powerful new polemic, Oborne shows how Boris Johnson lied again and again in order to secure victory so he could force through Brexit in the face of parliamentary opposition. Johnson and his ministers then lied repeatedly to win the general election in December 2019. The government’s woeful response to the coronavirus pandemic has generated another wave of falsehoods, misrepresentations and fabrications.

The scale and shamelessness of the lying of the Johnson administration far exceeds the lying about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and other issues under Tony Blair. This book argues that the ruthless use of political deceit under the Johnson government is part of a wider attack on civilised values and traditional institutions across the Western world, especially by Donald Trump in the USA. The Johnson and Trump methodology of deceit is about securing power for its own ends - even when they get exposed for lying, they shrug it off as a matter of no consequence.
https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/boo ... 98501003
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Openside wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:16 am
Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:07 am
Openside wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:05 pm

You clearly don’t even know what a day is so excuse me if I ignore your dribblings.
Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
A few facts for you

1) I am retired
2) you flatter yourself, my ‘Witty response’ was solely in response to you arriving on your white charger riding to JM’s defence other than that I have given you no thought at all. But make it all about you if you want.
3) The fact that the suggestion that JM has a boyfriend is thought by both of you as a homophobic slur potentially says more about your opinions towards being homosexual than mine.
Most important for you was to challenge the idea you worked in a stationary shop. :lol:
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SaintK wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:17 pm Peter Oborne stating the obvious
When Peter Oborne wrote The Rise of Political Lying, looking at the growth of political falsehood during the governments of John Major and Tony Blair, he believed things had got as bad as they could be. But then on 23 July 2019, with the arrival of Boris Johnson at No 10, began a new and unprecedented epidemic of deceit.

In The Assault on Truth, a short and powerful new polemic, Oborne shows how Boris Johnson lied again and again in order to secure victory so he could force through Brexit in the face of parliamentary opposition. Johnson and his ministers then lied repeatedly to win the general election in December 2019. The government’s woeful response to the coronavirus pandemic has generated another wave of falsehoods, misrepresentations and fabrications.

The scale and shamelessness of the lying of the Johnson administration far exceeds the lying about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and other issues under Tony Blair. This book argues that the ruthless use of political deceit under the Johnson government is part of a wider attack on civilised values and traditional institutions across the Western world, especially by Donald Trump in the USA. The Johnson and Trump methodology of deceit is about securing power for its own ends - even when they get exposed for lying, they shrug it off as a matter of no consequence.
https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/boo ... 98501003
Apropos of nothing, his book "wounded tiger" is excellent :thumbup:
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Meanwhile, in non-Tory but still total scum news,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55985100
A DUP MP has said he will not withdraw or apologise for comments he made about the number of black people who featured in an edition of Songs of Praise.

Gregory Campbell said the programme, featuring the Gospel Singer of the Year competition, was "the BBC at its BLM (Black Lives Matter) worst"
Cuntitude of the highest order.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:46 pm Meanwhile, in non-Tory but still total scum news,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55985100
A DUP MP has said he will not withdraw or apologise for comments he made about the number of black people who featured in an edition of Songs of Praise.

Gregory Campbell said the programme, featuring the Gospel Singer of the Year competition, was "the BBC at its BLM (Black Lives Matter) worst"
Cuntitude of the highest order.
TORIES BY ANOTHER NAME.
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To be fair, he probably watched Songs of Praise back in the days when it was wall to wall C of E white folk (God knows the Church of my youth was that, although we did have an Australian vicar on secondment for several years at our parish) and his piss boiled with rage as people enjoyed themselves in church with a good old singsong.
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As it ever was. Though I'm guessing that since November these have all been Zoom meetings?
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Brillo is such a reactionary snowflake :lol:
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I'm just glad former newspaper editor, current weekly current affairs magazine editor (a magazine with many many many links to the current government) and flagship interviewer for the national broadcaster has found a media platform he was previously denied.
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Muttonbird wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:18 pm
Openside wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:16 am
Rinkals wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:07 am

Yes, I can see why you'd think making a remark like "it will make his boyfriend jealous" would be an adult response.

Whatever you do in your important job (IIRC, you manage an office stationery shop?), you posted plenty of times in the days since my post. That you eventually came up with that juvenile piece of wit and presented it as some kind of witty riposte, clearly gives the lie to your claim to ignore my "dribblings".
A few facts for you

1) I am retired
2) you flatter yourself, my ‘Witty response’ was solely in response to you arriving on your white charger riding to JM’s defence other than that I have given you no thought at all. But make it all about you if you want.
3) The fact that the suggestion that JM has a boyfriend is thought by both of you as a homophobic slur potentially says more about your opinions towards being homosexual than mine.
Most important for you was to challenge the idea you worked in a stationary shop. :lol:
It wasn't (I dealt with each point in the order raised) but mainly because I didn't...
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Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:46 pm Meanwhile, in non-Tory but still total scum news,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55985100
A DUP MP has said he will not withdraw or apologise for comments he made about the number of black people who featured in an edition of Songs of Praise.

Gregory Campbell said the programme, featuring the Gospel Singer of the Year competition, was "the BBC at its BLM (Black Lives Matter) worst"
Cuntitude of the highest order.
I agree, fancy watching Songs of Praise :lol: :lol:
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Lolz at opensides ‘boyfriend jealous’ comment getting comments re homophobia , he’s had the most ‘y͏o͏u͏ is bent innit’ jibes hurled at him for years from all and sundry , anyone getting prissy about this needs to take a break from Internet forums for a few mins, it was a shit joke and nothing more.

Reading all the analysis of brexit re remainer, it is quite clear that most people of either side is convinced of their correctness re causes and effect and who is sneering at who. Vaccines and Euros aborted art16 and throwing Ireland under a bus has kinda proved that there are at least some merits to brexit, more than any trade deal could have done. The ‘other site’ is also equally full of people convinced of their correctness and winning threads and claiming obsession on topics , quite amusing.
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As it ever was. Bet she's a member of the Jockey Club as well
Don't forget this £30M contract to the landlord of his local pub!
An acquaintance and former neighbour of Matt Hancock is supplying the government with tens of millions of vials for NHS Covid-19 tests despite having had no previous experience of producing medical supplies.

Alex Bourne, who used to run a pub close to Hancock’s former constituency home in Suffolk, said he initially offered his services to the UK health secretary several months ago by sending him a personal WhatsApp message.

Bourne’s company, Hinpack, was at that time producing plastic cups and takeaway boxes for the catering industry. It is now supplying about 2m medical grade vials a week to the government via a distributor contracted by the NHS.
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Yeeb wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:06 pm Lolz at opensides ‘boyfriend jealous’ comment getting comments re homophobia , he’s had the most ‘y͏o͏u͏ is bent innit’ jibes hurled at him for years from all and sundry , anyone getting prissy about this needs to take a break from Internet forums for a few mins, it was a shit joke and nothing more.

Reading all the analysis of brexit re remainer, it is quite clear that most people of either side is convinced of their correctness re causes and effect and who is sneering at who. Vaccines and Euros aborted art16 and throwing Ireland under a bus has kinda proved that there are at least some merits to brexit, more than any trade deal could have done. The ‘other site’ is also equally full of people convinced of their correctness and winning threads and claiming obsession on topics , quite amusing.
😂😂 yes it all went a bit quiet when I pointed out the massive hypocrisy of the accusation. But you are right it was a pretty shit joke (even if Rinkals was hanging out the back of JM)
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