Short term pain for a long term gain, i agree fuck Eddie, i hope England get dry humped by the leekists and Eddie gets fucked off out of it.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:30 pmCome off it - what's the point of claiming to be an England supporter if you're happy for us to lose to Wales
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I'll still be screaming at the tv, in support, on the day. But I won't lose any sleep over another loss - even to the Welsh.ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:13 pmShort term pain for a long term gain, i agree fuck Eddie, i hope England get dry humped by the leekists and Eddie gets fucked off out of it.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:30 pmCome off it - what's the point of claiming to be an England supporter if you're happy for us to lose to Wales
I'll be cheering the team and wanting the win. I'll be wanting to see more from them, and see how the side is developing, but there's no way I'm hoping for a Welsh win, or could claim I wouldn't be upset by one.
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Paul Rees with more eulogies to Dan Carter while trying to tie in the problem with the current game and er, somehow making it clear he never really watched Dan Carter:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... ter-future
Some highlights
What the fuck is Rees on
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... ter-future
Some highlights
That'll be the willowy Dan Carter who definitely wasn't a strong bloke who smashed people in the tackle and on the carry when he felt like it, playing alongside big physical specimens in basically every match, with a piston-handoff, and a sculpted gym physique that puts the likes of Ford, Burns, Sheedy, Russell et al to shameA side-effect is that it may dilute the machismo that has developed during rugby’s professional era when words and phrases such as big hits, physicality, bulking up, winning the collisions and brutality became everyday. Carter was a throwback to a time when greater emphasis was placed on bustle than muscle; the fly-half brought an elegance and refinement to an increasingly ugly sport.
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From the moment he made his Test debut against Wales in Hamilton in 2003, scoring a try and showing his ghost-like running, drawing tacklers with an effortless grace and leaving them clutching air, he held a candle for those who were drawn to the game because of its contrast between the raw contest at forward and the array of skills behind.
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Outside-halves became judged by their tackle count more than the way they led their side’s attack, but Carter was different. He was no doormat, but he did not measure himself by the number of bigger opponents he felled; tackling was part of his brief, but not of paramount importance.
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the memory of Carter is either of him sidestepping away from a tackler or taking the outside shoulder and disappearing in a shimmer. He was far from slow, but his weapon was deception rather than flat-out speed.
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Carter was an exceptional player with the attributes of a Welsh maestro of yore, self-confident, strutting and slippery, but he became an exception as the sport became preoccupied by size, with young backs constantly being told to get in the gym and return when they had added a few pounds of muscle.
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The flurry of red cards provides an opportunity for the balance to be restored so that the Carters of the future are allowed to flourish rather than have to spend hours each week pumping iron.
What the fuck is Rees on
Yeah, Carter was a solidly built fella, he'd not have been out of place in the centres, let alone fly half. I'd say he was probably more solidly built than the vast majority of international fly halves.
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
If you've ever listened to Warburton on comms you'll know he's fucking nuts. As soon as a Welsh player does anything, they're in the Lions for him. He was touting johnny Williams for the Lions purely because he got picked for Wales. He just likes saying words and putting people in Lions teams.
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Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Shouldn't that be 'kick with 6 man overlap' or is that one reserved for Farrell?
No one is capable of that play like Farrell: he can even do it without looking, and often does.
Daly is actually 5th on my list of drops:
1= Farrell
1= Youngs
3 Vunipola, B.
4 Whoever this week's 5.5 is.
Watson would have been in the list ahead of him too, but he's started playing better.
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5.5s, we're devolving!
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Lawes' injury should stay Eddie's hand when it comes to 5.5's, so we can shift Daly back to 4.Woddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:10 pmNo one is capable of that play like Farrell: he can even do it without looking, and often does.
Daly is actually 5th on my list of drops:
1= Farrell
1= Youngs
3 Vunipola, B.
4 Whoever this week's 5.5 is.
Watson would have been in the list ahead of him too, but he's started playing better.
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Teams for Wasps v LI tomorrow. JJ's 18yo brother set for a prem debut off the bench for LI
I wouldn't put it past Eddie to play Daly at locksockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:45 pmLawes' injury should stay Eddie's hand when it comes to 5.5's, so we can shift Daly back to 4.SpoilerShowWoddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:10 pmNo one is capable of that play like Farrell: he can even do it without looking, and often does.
Daly is actually 5th on my list of drops:
1= Farrell
1= Youngs
3 Vunipola, B.
4 Whoever this week's 5.5 is.
Watson would have been in the list ahead of him too, but he's started playing better.
Should be the next step up for Johnny MayOxbow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:24 pmI wouldn't put it past Eddie to play Daly at locksockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:45 pmLawes' injury should stay Eddie's hand when it comes to 5.5's, so we can shift Daly back to 4.SpoilerShowWoddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:10 pm
No one is capable of that play like Farrell: he can even do it without looking, and often does.
Daly is actually 5th on my list of drops:
1= Farrell
1= Youngs
3 Vunipola, B.
4 Whoever this week's 5.5 is.
Watson would have been in the list ahead of him too, but he's started playing better.
That's excellent, will pinch that!
Could also add;
Gets skinned on the outside by opposite number.
Misses tackle on opposite number.
Ball rolls out of ruck between his legs as he's looking up.
Takes quick tap and gets turned over.
Throws a hospital pass.
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Christ, don't even put that out into the universe!Oxbow wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:24 pmI wouldn't put it past Eddie to play Daly at locksockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:45 pmLawes' injury should stay Eddie's hand when it comes to 5.5's, so we can shift Daly back to 4.SpoilerShowWoddy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:10 pm
No one is capable of that play like Farrell: he can even do it without looking, and often does.
Daly is actually 5th on my list of drops:
1= Farrell
1= Youngs
3 Vunipola, B.
4 Whoever this week's 5.5 is.
Watson would have been in the list ahead of him too, but he's started playing better.
Umaga @ 10Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:56 pm Teams for Wasps v LI tomorrow. JJ's 18yo brother set for a prem debut off the bench for LI
If Irish play like last week, we (Wasps) will get well beaten - again.
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Ben Youngs Bingo is likely a lot safer* for participants than playing the drinking game based on his passing.
* I will concede that watching his antics sober is unlikely to do anything positive for viewers' blood pressure.
* I will concede that watching his antics sober is unlikely to do anything positive for viewers' blood pressure.
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Wasps are clear favourites with the bookies. Pile in to LI if you're that way inclined Ovals.
Get the bonus of not really minding to much if you lose the bet, as Wasps have won.
Get the bonus of not really minding to much if you lose the bet, as Wasps have won.
Quins have rotated heavily for the Newcastle game.
Very pleased to see Kenningham given a start; there's been a lot of chat about him and with Will Evans out injured it's clear we need a good ball-thief at 7 and not just a big lump. De Carpentier probably a little unlucky as he's looked decent in his cameos and could've done a job at 6 or 7, but it's a great chance to see if Kenningham can give us something of what Evans brings to the table. Should be a good contest.Harlequins Starting XV
1. Joe Marler (212)
2. Elia Elia (63)
3. Wilco Louw (15)
4. Matt Symons (51)
5. Hugh Tizard (7)
6. Stephan Lewies (25) - Captain
7. Jack Kenningham (0)
8. James Chisholm (103)
9. Martin Landajo (26)
10. Marcus Smith (97)
11. Tyrone Green (5)
12. Andre Esterhuizen (12)
13. Luke Northmore (12)
14. Joe Marchant (100)
15. Aaron Morris (58)
Impact Players
16. Scott Baldwin (19)
17. Jordan Els (11)
18. Simon kerrod (37)
19. Glen Young (31)
20. Alex Dombrandt (63)
21. Danny Care (293)
22. Brett Herron (16)
23. Louis Lynagh (8)
Falcons (missing several, too):
15 Tom Penny
14 Adam Radwan
13 Matias Orlando
12 Luther Burrell
11 Ben Stevenson
10 Joel Hodgson
9 Louis Schreuder
1 Trevor Davison
2 George McGuigan
3 Logovi’i Mulipola
4 Greg Peterson
5 Marco Fuser
6 Sean Robinson (captain)
7 Philip van der Walt
8 Callum Chick
Replacements
16 Jamie Blamire
17 Adam Brocklebank
18 Mark Tampin
19 Darren Barry
20 John Hardie
21 Sam Stuart
22 Brett Connon
23 Mateo Carreras
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I hope he's ready...Ovals wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:38 pmUmaga @ 10Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:56 pm Teams for Wasps v LI tomorrow. JJ's 18yo brother set for a prem debut off the bench for LI
If Irish play like last week, we (Wasps) will get well beaten - again.
Porter back is pretty big, I think he's the best of our non-Robson options. However bringing him back in and Umaga to boot alongside benching Jimmy does little to halt the near constant chopping and changing at half back. Admittedly it's all largely been enforced rather than by choice, but it is a thing nonetheless. Centres are very much second choice.
Oghre returning after being a very stupid boy should add a little more to our breakdown threat which has been sorely lacking in the absence of Young and Willis.
Might need Toomaga-Allen to go the distance this week since our injury cover signing on the bench has only just joined the squad and isn't very good if I'm remembering him correctly.
Pissed afterr 20 minutes I reckonsockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:39 pm Ben Youngs Bingo is likely a lot safer* for participants than playing the drinking game based on his passing.
* I will concede that watching his antics sober is unlikely to do anything positive for viewers' blood pressure.
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Depends on whether we've decided to hold onto possession at all or allow the opposition to have 75%+ as we often seem to do. Can't throw bad passes without the ball *taps head*SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:56 pmPissed afterr 20 minutes I reckonsockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:39 pm Ben Youngs Bingo is likely a lot safer* for participants than playing the drinking game based on his passing.
* I will concede that watching his antics sober is unlikely to do anything positive for viewers' blood pressure.
The game I heard was take a drink every time the ball goes above or behind the man, 2 for the pass going to floor and down for to no one and into touch.
I suppose, conversely, if one wished to retain a functional liver, drink each time the pass goes to the intended recipient's hands. Might get through a couple of pints over the 80 depending on how good a game he's having.
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I apologise for giving the impression that this was also not a drinking game.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:39 pm Ben Youngs Bingo is likely a lot safer* for participants than playing the drinking game based on his passing.
* I will concede that watching his antics sober is unlikely to do anything positive for viewers' blood pressure.
Got 8 mates doing it with different orders, two fingers for each one filled in, first one to get a full line nominates a pint. And so on.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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Another round, another Saffa gets a card for something stupid. Only yellow this time, but that's luck of how the player landed.
Edit - followed by what looks to be a fairly straightforward red card decision the officials are agonising over.
Edit - followed by what looks to be a fairly straightforward red card decision the officials are agonising over.
Just dumb by Yeandle, why did he even need to go in there?sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:14 pm Another round, another Saffa gets a card for something stupid. Only yellow this time, but that's luck of how the player landed.
Edit - followed by what looks to be a fairly straightforward red card decision the officials are agonising over.
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No idea what he was thinking, the Sale player was nowhere near the ball, wasn't a threat to it or even in a position to slow it down. Completely braindead to even be clearing him, let alone like that.ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:19 pmJust dumb by Yeandle, why did he even need to go in there?sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:14 pm Another round, another Saffa gets a card for something stupid. Only yellow this time, but that's luck of how the player landed.
Edit - followed by what looks to be a fairly straightforward red card decision the officials are agonising over.
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I'd be pretty angry with Ross there if I were McGuigan, if that goes wrong he's just taken me out with an opposition player.
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Simmonds is going to set records this season.
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Nah it's fine. Skinner's unlikely to reach and/or stop McGinty from there, but he has to have the opportunity to fail and de Jager prevents that. Seen it before and we'll see it again.