The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Big D]

Another thought: Jones was pinged for ‘too many rolls’ on the deck. WTF is that about? Is there really a law about that?

Yes the tackled player is supposed to immediately make the ball available. Refs give some leeway but when a player is tackled and rolls like that they ping them.

[Blackmac]

Another thought: Jones was pinged for ‘too many rolls’ on the deck. WTF is that about? Is there really a law about that?

Not specifically, but he fell with the ball trapped on the Italian side and was unable to immediately present it, so he made a very obvious second movement which highlighted he hadn't released.

[Blackmac]

God but I have missed Huw Jones in full flow.

Decent game all in all.

Until he tries to make any pass over 6 feet.

[bessantj]

Congratulations on the great win over Italy, hope Scotland take that momentum and win against France.

[Yr Alban]

Another thought: Jones was pinged for ‘too many rolls’ on the deck. WTF is that about? Is there really a law about that?

Yes the tackled player is supposed to immediately make the ball available. Refs give some leeway but when a player is tackled and rolls like that they ping them.

Fair enough. Given that players are freely allowed to move forward on hands and knees after being tackled though, seems a bit pernickety.

[Yr Alban]

Congratulations on the great win over Italy, hope Scotland take that momentum and win against France.

We don’t need to win from your POV. We just need to not lose by 21 points, or deny France a try BP

[bessantj]

Congratulations on the great win over Italy, hope Scotland take that momentum and win against France.

We don’t need to win from your POV. We just need to not lose by 21 points, or deny France a try BP

I still want Scotland to win, unless they're playing Wales I always want Scotland to win.

[KingBlairhorn]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

[SomersetJock]

I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

Just perusing this thread and this caught my eye. We’re just in the process of selling up in Somerset and have just had an offer accepted for a house in Colwyn Bay. Good to know there is fellow Scotland rugby fans up that way now I’m leaving the Somerset counterparts behind

[Yr Alban]

I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

Just perusing this thread and this caught my eye. We’re just in the process of selling up in Somerset and have just had an offer accepted for a house in Colwyn Bay. Good to know there is fellow Scotland rugby fans up that way now I’m leaving the Somerset counterparts behind

Welcome to the land of the Gog! We’ll have to have a cabal at some point (I’m sure GogLais would join us for a beer). Could use someone to watch the odd game with too...

I’m 15 mins West of Colwyn Bay - my boys actually go to school there. What brings you up here?

[SomersetJock]

Cracking, I’m always up for a beer or two

Move came about when my Brother in law suggested a career change for me and offered me a job in his timber business. Bit of a homecoming for the Mrs as she grew up in Llandudno.

Lovely part of the country, have spent a lot of time up there with the in laws all being up that way.

[Tichtheid]

Take a minute to look up the try Rufus MacLean just scored against dragons

Outrageous

[Yr Alban]

Take a minute to look up the try Rufus MacLean just scored against dragons

Outrageous

My word, that is just pure filth. Reminds me of Hogg beating half the Ireland team in Dublin.

It’s on the GW Twitter feed for anyone who is curious.

[Yr Alban]

Looks like Glasgow are about as good at holding onto a lead against a Welsh team as Scotland .

[KingBlairhorn]

Looks like Glasgow are about as good at holding onto a lead against a Welsh team as Scotland .

So frustrating. Glasgow were just brainless in the last 20, and particularly in the last 10. They wasted at least 5 minutes of their own time when chasing the game.

[clydecloggie]

God but I have missed Huw Jones in full flow.

Decent game all in all.

Until he tries to make any pass over 6 feet.

I can live with a non-distributing 13. Especially if he's more slippery than an eel in olive oil. There is no other Scotland player that can ghost through defences like he has done time and again, including both last week and yesterday.

[I like neeps]

Worrying for Glasgow how poor they are.

Dobie, McLean and Thomson are good prospects but such a poor side. Wilson and Harley are obviously legends but I can do without seeing them beaten in contact every game.

[clydecloggie]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

Aye - it's been 110 minutes of the best rugby Scotland has played since the '90's, followed by 110 minutes of pish in which they still ran Ireland close, followed by a clinical demolition of Italy.

Without the old-school second-half panic against Wales, we would be having our own Grand Slam decider against France on Friday, methinks. The Ireland game reeked of a hangover a wee bit.

[I like neeps]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

[Big D]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

I think that's about right. Although if we beat France my overriding emotion would be frustration given how we closed the game in both losses.

[GogLais]

I’ve just found out that the U20s beat Wales 52-17 in Colwyn Bay a year ago. Somehow missed this completely amongst all of the Covid shite. Now feeling annoyed because I live not far from Colwyn Bay, I’ve been to these matches before, and somehow I didn’t go to this one.

Just perusing this thread and this caught my eye. We’re just in the process of selling up in Somerset and have just had an offer accepted for a house in Colwyn Bay. Good to know there is fellow Scotland rugby fans up that way now I’m leaving the Somerset counterparts behind

Welcome to the land of the Gog! We’ll have to have a cabal at some point (I’m sure GogLais would join us for a beer). Could use someone to watch the odd game with too...

I’m 15 mins West of Colwyn Bay - my boys actually go to school there. What brings you up here?

West of Colwyn? You're almost in Wales.

[I like neeps]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

I think that's about right. Although if we beat France my overriding emotion would be frustration given how we closed the game in both losses.

Agree. But I'm already frustrated! The performance against Wales from 30-50 was unforgivable. You lose the Championship minutes and you lose the game. And to surrender them with Powerpuff sh*te penalties. Won't get over that in a hurry.

[robmatic]

Take a minute to look up the try Rufus MacLean just scored against dragons

Outrageous

Fantastic. Great Fijian step there.

[SomersetJock]

Just perusing this thread and this caught my eye. We’re just in the process of selling up in Somerset and have just had an offer accepted for a house in Colwyn Bay. Good to know there is fellow Scotland rugby fans up that way now I’m leaving the Somerset counterparts behind

Welcome to the land of the Gog! We’ll have to have a cabal at some point (I’m sure GogLais would join us for a beer). Could use someone to watch the odd game with too...

I’m 15 mins West of Colwyn Bay - my boys actually go to school there. What brings you up here?

West of Colwyn? You're almost in Wales.

I’ve already been warned that questioning the Welshness of the locals is often frowned against

[Yr Alban]

Just perusing this thread and this caught my eye. We’re just in the process of selling up in Somerset and have just had an offer accepted for a house in Colwyn Bay. Good to know there is fellow Scotland rugby fans up that way now I’m leaving the Somerset counterparts behind

Welcome to the land of the Gog! We’ll have to have a cabal at some point (I’m sure GogLais would join us for a beer). Could use someone to watch the odd game with too...

I’m 15 mins West of Colwyn Bay - my boys actually go to school there. What brings you up here?

West of Colwyn? You're almost in Wales.

Hey, you said it, not me!

I’ve just noticed where you are!

[Yr Alban]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

Oh, the England game was a shoeing, no question. We weren’t ruthless enough to make it show on the scoreboard, but I don’t believe I have ever seen a Scotland side dominate a game quite so utterly in the 6N era (save a few times v Italy). We dominated possession, territory and metres gained. England made far more tackles than we did, and our discipline was far superior. We hammered them, we just didn’t finish well enough.

[Slick]

Take a minute to look up the try Rufus MacLean just scored against dragons

Outrageous

Fantastic. Great Fijian step there.

Oh yes, that was sweet

[I like neeps]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

Oh, the England game was a shoeing, no question. We weren’t ruthless enough to make it show on the scoreboard, but I don’t believe I have ever seen a Scotland side dominate a game quite so utterly in the 6N era (save a few times v Italy). We dominated possession, territory and metres gained. England made far more tackles than we did, and our discipline was far superior. We hammered them, we just didn’t finish well enough.

I agree it was as dominant as I've seen Scotland against anyone except Italy. However it was a close match... England just needed a penalty for a draw or one try and had chances.

For me Scotland have been shoed many a time and the opposition scores waves of points and it's totally demoralising. That's my definition of a shoeing and this wasn't that.

[Caley_Red]

So having seen all the other games completed are there any different views now on the tournament? I think my view is softening a little from post-Ireland and, regardless of the France result it is probably an ok tournament on the whole. We gave England a bit of a shoeing, spanked Italy, pushed a Wales team who were a bawhair from a grand slam to the final play despite a red card and could have beaten an Ireland team that themselves comfortably despatched England and should have done likewise with Wales.

I think Ireland was the only game we really played badly, and we stayed in it. Against Wales we had 20 bad minutes, unfortunately that was enough to lose the game. We actually played around 110 minutes of consistently good rugby across the England and then Wales games which is more than our usual 40...progress?

If we beat France it's been a good tournament because we won 3 games of which 2 were away. If we lose to France it's been a bad tournament.

Not sure 11-8 is a shoeing though. And the performances against Wales and Ireland are nothing to be proud of. To almost win when not playing well is not an achievement. Playing well is the achievement.

I think that's about right. Although if we beat France my overriding emotion would be frustration given how we closed the game in both losses.

Agreed although that would put us closer to a very important milestone: would have beaten every 6N home and away in last 5 years (Ireland in Dublin the only absence) which surely must mean something in the context of player confidence.

[And 1 guest]

On another note, I'd like to say how much I've enjoyed watching Sean maitland this year. Utterly consistent in defence and attack. I don't think he's ever really had the appreciation his performances deserve

[robmatic]

Looks like Glasgow are about as good at holding onto a lead against a Welsh team as Scotland .

So frustrating. Glasgow were just brainless in the last 20, and particularly in the last 10. They wasted at least 5 minutes of their own time when chasing the game.

What's happening with Glasgow? Haven't watched the last few games but sounds like the young players are showing up well but the discipline is awful?

[dkm57]

A lot of promising young players stepping up but not quite got the experience combined with some brian-dead old farts who should ideally move on/retire or be put on the break glass only in direst emergency bench

[Biffer]

So, Friday - I say fuck it, let's have a blast, Jones at 13, Graham, VdM and Hogg the back 3. Let's entertain. In the pack I think Cherry proved he should go again, and Craig might be worth a start. SH an issue. Price, even after all this time, is far too prone to mad shit decisions. WTF happened to Horne, I thought he'd have displaced Price completely by now, always looked the better player to me.

[robmatic]

Looks like Maitland isn't getting released by Saracens.

[Biffer]

Looks like Maitland isn't getting released by Saracens.

Well, they have got their high profile, international audience game vs umm (checks notes) Richmond....

[KingBlairhorn]

A lot of promising young players stepping up but not quite got the experience combined with some brian-dead old farts who should ideally move on/retire or be put on the break glass only in direst emergency bench

Exactly this.

[Slick]

So, Friday - I say fuck it, let's have a blast, Jones at 13, Graham, VdM and Hogg the back 3. Let's entertain. In the pack I think Cherry proved he should go again, and Craig might be worth a start. SH an issue. Price, even after all this time, is far too prone to mad shit decisions. WTF happened to Horne, I thought he'd have displaced Price completely by now, always looked the better player to me.

I’m in!

[Slick]

Looks like Maitland isn't getting released by Saracens.

Heard a rumour he had thrown a hissy fit after being subbed and has been sent back

[Tichtheid]

Wee Dod Horne stalled for awhile, he had a few rushes of blood to the heid (I remember a real melt down against Exeter), then he got injured - I think he still is.

[robmatic]

Wee Dod Horne stalled for awhile, he had a few rushes of blood to the heid (I remember a real melt down against Exeter), then he got injured - I think he still is.

Must be injured, it's been Kennedy and Dobie playing for Glasgow recently.