2021 Guinness PRO14 Rainbow Cup

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Looks like the SA teams have been kicked out of Pro14

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/inter ... akeholders

I don't know what those "forces outside rugby" are.
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ACE wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:41 pm Looks like the SA teams have been kicked out of Pro14

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/inter ... akeholders

I don't know what those "forces outside rugby" are.
Corvid protocol forces.
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ACE wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:41 pm Looks like the SA teams have been kicked out of Pro14

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/inter ... akeholders

I don't know what those "forces outside rugby" are.
It was the UK government.

Apparently it's not cancelled but they are looking at other alternatives:

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/the-r ... a32f5b0451
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:56 pm
ACE wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:41 pm Looks like the SA teams have been kicked out of Pro14

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/inter ... akeholders

I don't know what those "forces outside rugby" are.
Corvid protocol forces.
I think it was Covid.
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Dates and times for rounds 1 to 3 have been confirmed
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Kick off times confirmed


FIXTURES: FIRST THREE ROUNDS

(SA teams’ fixtures in italics, all kick-offs SA local time)

ROUND 1

Friday, 23 April

7pm: DHL Stormers vs Cell C Sharks (Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town)

9:15pm: Edinburgh vs Zebre (BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh)

9:15pm: Ulster vs Connacht (Kingspan Stadium, Belfast)

Saturday, 24 April

2pm: Benetton vs Glasgow Warriors (Stadio de Monigo, Treviso)

4pm: Vodacom Bulls vs Emirates Lions (Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria)

6:15pm: Ospreys vs Cardiff Blues (Liberty Stadium, Swansea)

8:35pm: Leinster vs Munster (RDS Arena, Dublin)

Sunday, 25 April

2pm: Dragons vs Scarlets (Rodney Parade, Newport)



ROUND 2

Friday, 30 April

7pm: Cell C Sharks vs Emirates Lions (Jonsson Kings Park, Durban)

Saturday, 1 May

5pm: DHL Stormers vs Vodacom Bulls (Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town)

Friday, 7 May

7pm: Zebre vs Benetton (Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi, Parma)

9:15pm: Munster vs Ulster (Thomond Park, Limerick)

9:15pm: Glasgow Warriors vs Edinburgh (Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow)

Saturday, 8 May

8:35pm: Connacht vs Leinster (The Sportsground, Galway)

8:35pm: Scarlets vs Ospreys (Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli)

Sunday, 9 May

2pm: Cardiff Blues vs Dragons (Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff)



ROUND 3

Saturday, 8 May

4pm: Emirates Lions vs DHL Stormers (Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg)

6:15pm: Vodacom Bulls vs Cell C Sharks (Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria)

Friday, 14 May

7pm: Munster vs Connacht (Thomond Park, Limerick)

9:15pm: Leinster vs Ulster (RDS Arena, Dublin)

Saturday, 15 May

4pm: Scarlets vs Cardiff Blues (Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli)

6:15pm: Benetton vs Zebre (Stadio de Monigo, Treviso)

8:35pm: Edinburgh vs Glasgow Warriors (BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh)

Sunday, 16 May

4pm: Dragons vs Ospreys (Rodney Parade, Newport
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All the matches in the first round will be available live on SuperSport, as well as the other PRO14 network of broadcasters, Premier Sports, eir Sport and DAZN, with S4C and TG4 showing live free-to-air matches, deferred coverage and highlights throughout the Rainbow Cup.

Confirmation of the planned matches for rounds four to six will follow once PRO14 Rugby has received all necessary approvals and permissions from the relevant governments and health authorities for the South African teams to travel.
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So we're not sure if we're part of the tournament proper?

At least this time we will be playing for an actual trophy.
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handyman wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:34 pm So we're not sure if we're part of the tournament proper?

At least this time we will be playing for an actual trophy.
I think it's safe to say we are. It's just the travel and logistics issues they're trying to iron out, after which the rest of the fixtures will be announced.
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assfly wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:13 pm
handyman wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:34 pm So we're not sure if we're part of the tournament proper?

At least this time we will be playing for an actual trophy.
I think it's safe to say we are. It's just the travel and logistics issues they're trying to iron out, after which the rest of the fixtures will be announced.
I really hope so. Local derbies are a bit meh by now.
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handyman wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:16 pm I really hope so. Local derbies are a bit meh by now.
Totally. But as you say, at least with a trophy at the end prospective matches against Irish teams on the horizon, it makes it a little more interesting.
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assfly wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:19 pm
handyman wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:16 pm I really hope so. Local derbies are a bit meh by now.
Totally. But as you say, at least with a trophy at the end prospective matches against Irish teams on the horizon, it makes it a little more interesting.
Just to engage with fans from another country will be great. Us saffers are getting on each other's nerves.
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handyman wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:24 pm Just to engage with fans from another country will be great. Us saffers are getting on each other's nerves.
Very true!
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At least the tournament will start with a bang. Stormers and Sharks haven't played many times. Sharks had a lot of excuses.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm At least the tournament will start with a bang. Stormers and Sharks haven't played many times. Sharks had a lot of excuses.
Will start off with a bang if The Chosen One runs over Borsch for the opening try. :lolno:
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This is going to be a totally pointless exercise.

It is a meaningless trophy tacked onto the end of a strange season.

I doubt any of the bigger teams (SA sides, Leinster, Munster) will really give a toss if they win this.

By the sounds of if even the teams far less likely to win it like Edinburgh are talking about using kids. They've held back kids from the u20 6N, presumably to play in this.
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Big D wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm This is going to be a totally pointless exercise.

It is a meaningless trophy tacked onto the end of a strange season.

I doubt any of the bigger teams (SA sides, Leinster, Munster) will really give a toss if they win this.

By the sounds of if even the teams far less likely to win it like Edinburgh are talking about using kids. They've held back kids from the u20 6N, presumably to play in this.
I'm glad some youngsters are getting a run tbh.
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The youngsters may play them in the Lions squad coming to South Africa while the older players can rest.
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:08 pm
Big D wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm This is going to be a totally pointless exercise.

It is a meaningless trophy tacked onto the end of a strange season.

I doubt any of the bigger teams (SA sides, Leinster, Munster) will really give a toss if they win this.

By the sounds of if even the teams far less likely to win it like Edinburgh are talking about using kids. They've held back kids from the u20 6N, presumably to play in this.
I'm glad some youngsters are getting a run tbh.
We didn't need to include the SA side and have a convoluted tournament to do so.
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Big D wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:35 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:08 pm
Big D wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm This is going to be a totally pointless exercise.

It is a meaningless trophy tacked onto the end of a strange season.

I doubt any of the bigger teams (SA sides, Leinster, Munster) will really give a toss if they win this.

By the sounds of if even the teams far less likely to win it like Edinburgh are talking about using kids. They've held back kids from the u20 6N, presumably to play in this.
I'm glad some youngsters are getting a run tbh.
We didn't need to include the SA side and have a convoluted tournament to do so.
No but its a bit more interesting.
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It's a filler until the 2021-2022 Pro 16 season kicks off. It makes sense to get our players used to conditions and the travel that will be involved. I'd be surprised if any of the NH teams put full-strength teams out, but I think SA fans are looking forward to some of the games.
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What an absolute shitshow.

As usual good work Saffers.

The disgraceful exit from the Rugby Championship seems to be working out well for you.

Karma.
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Green light echo wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:30 pm What an absolute shitshow.

As usual good work Saffers.

The disgraceful exit from the Rugby Championship seems to be working out well for you.

Karma.
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:lolno: :lolno:
Hahahahaha...hahah
Sorry we don't engage or allow ourselves to be trolled by supporters of a seventh placed team on the world rankings. When your team has won three world cups and reached number one on the rankings we may talk as equals. Until then it's onto ignore you go.
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New laws for Rainbow Cup
LAW VARIATION TRIALS EXPLAINED

Replacement for Red Card player after 20 minutes

For red cards, the offending player will be removed from the field for 20 minutes. After this time the team can replace this player with one of their nominated substitutes. The player who is given the red card will not be able to return to the pitch.

Just like the awarding of a yellow card, the 20 minutes will be measured in ‘game time’ meaning that the clock will not run during stoppages in play. The Red Card Replacement law will also apply to players who receive two yellow cards (which results in an automatic red).

Players who have been substituted for tactical reasons may be used to replace a player who has received a red card. The usual replacement laws continue to apply in that a replaced player may return for an injured front rower, injury due to foul play, HIA or blood.

CAPTAIN’S CHALLENGE

The Captain’s Challenge is aimed at enhancing the accuracy of decisions already under the remit of the match officials. Each team is allowed one captain’s challenge in the match.These can be used for try-scoring and foul play incidents, or to challenge any refereeing decision in the last five minutes of a match.

The challenge will be referred to the TMO who will review the footage with the match referee making the final decision. If a challenge is successful, then the team keeps their challenge but if it is unsuccessful then the team loses the challenge.

Challenges can only be made up to 20 seconds after the referee has blown his whistle for a stoppage in play and only incidents from the last passage of play can be challenged.

Prior to the 75-minute mark, the Captain’s Challenge can only be used to check for an infringement in the lead up to a try or to review foul play.

The Captain’s Challenge will be applied more broadly from the 75-minute mark in any match at which point the captain, provided they have not already lost their Challenge, can use it to check any whistled decision regardless of whether a try has been scored. Injury time is included in the post 75-minute period.

1. TMO’s will be able to go back to the last stoppage in play, regardless of how many phases have been played
1. Foul play challenges can be made after any stoppage in play if the captain believes foul play has been missed by the match officials
2. Captains must reference ‘specific’ incidents or infringements
3. Footage must be ‘clear and obvious’ for a challenge to be upheld
4. Captains cannot refer a scrum or lineout penalty, where the referee’s decision will be final

For the avoidance of doubt, there is no extra challenge available after 75 minutes. Teams receive one challenge per match and will only retain it if they are successful in a previous challenge.

WHAT CANNOT BE CHALLENGED

1. A restart in play has happened including a quick tap or quick throw in has been taken, so the team has chosen to play quickly
2. Non-decisions – where a referee does not blow their whistle for a decision and play continues (unless there is foul play)
3. Set-piece decisions cannot be challenged because they are technical decisions that could provide multiple outcomes based on the interpretations of players and referees

Goal-line drop-out

For held-up over the line, knock-ons that occur in goal or when the ball is grounded by a defending player in the in-goal area after a kick through, the defending team will take a drop-out from anywhere on the goal line.

The drop-out must be taken on or behind the defending team’s goal line and it must occur without delay. The ball must cut across the goal line and travel 5 metres. If this does not occur a sanction will apply, and the non-kicking team may request the kick to be retaken or receive a 5m scrum in line with where the kick was taken.

For the avoidance of doubt, a missed penalty kick at goal or a missed drop-goal attempt will still result in a 22m drop-out for the defending team.
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Rumours going around that the entire Rainbow Cup will be cancelled today.
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Yep.
t is understood that a failure to gain permission from the UK and Ireland governments for the visit of the South Africans is the stumbling block that at this point cannot be hurdled.
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So derbies once again? Covid is such a fokken doos.
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handyman wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:26 am So derbies once again? Covid is such a fokken doos.
It is better than no rugby at all.
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assfly wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:58 am Rumours going around that the entire Rainbow Cup will be cancelled today.
Some sources are saying it will go ahead without the SA sides.

It's all a mess tbh.

The only games I'd be interested in if this is a case is if all the Pro 14 sides put out U20s or U23 teams

edit, if the SA sides are playing derbies I'd be interested in watching their age group games too.
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Chilli wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:58 am
handyman wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:26 am So derbies once again? Covid is such a fokken doos.
It is better than no rugby at all.
True, but all of us are aching for international competition.
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The only way they could make a local competition more apetising is allowing fans back into the stadiums. Or better still, play the matches at local schools and clubs instead.
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Surprise, surprise.

First this abortion of a tournament will go. Then it will be the Lions tour. Swiftly followed by another Bok withdrawal from the Rugby Championship.

Hopefully the Springoffs will play again before the 2023 RWC.

Going on SA record that is no sure bet either. Could be time to roll up the tents completely.

Abortion of a country.
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Green light echo wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:33 pm Surprise, surprise.

First this abortion of a tournament will go. Then it will be the Lions tour. Swiftly followed by another Bok withdrawal from the Rugby Championship.

Hopefully the Springoffs will play again before the 2023 RWC.

Going on SA record that is no sure bet either. Could be time to roll up the tents completely.

Abortion of a country.
We don't really want the old PR carry on here, do we mods?
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Who doesn’t have this bitter green nut on ignore? What it must he to live with such hate.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:19 am Yep.
t is understood that a failure to gain permission from the UK and Ireland governments for the visit of the South Africans is the stumbling block that at this point cannot be hurdled.
Seems daft when they are still planning on doing the Lions tour.
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sorCrer wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:43 pm
Green light echo wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:33 pm Surprise, surprise.

First this abortion of a tournament will go. Then it will be the Lions tour. Swiftly followed by another Bok withdrawal from the Rugby Championship.

Hopefully the Springoffs will play again before the 2023 RWC.

Going on SA record that is no sure bet either. Could be time to roll up the tents completely.

Abortion of a country.
We don't really want the old PR carry on here, do we mods?

Brave hey. Can dish it out.

The truth hurts.
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sorCrer wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:43 pm
Green light echo wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:33 pm Surprise, surprise.

First this abortion of a tournament will go. Then it will be the Lions tour. Swiftly followed by another Bok withdrawal from the Rugby Championship.

Hopefully the Springoffs will play again before the 2023 RWC.

Going on SA record that is no sure bet either. Could be time to roll up the tents completely.

Abortion of a country.
We don't really want the old PR carry on here, do we mods?
Hear, hear, adds absolutely nothing.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Fangle wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:44 pm Who doesn’t have this bitter green nut on ignore? What it must he to live with such hate.
Oh must be my mistake.

I hadn't realised the South African Government Covid response has been world leading. Also wasn't aware that since the 2019 RWC, rugby in SA has been managed expertly and efficiently.

Must be my ignorance.

Please carry on.
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We vokked up....

Saw it coming a mile away....

When SARU gave our ex partners the middle finger bragging about how much money they would be making North , you just knew it was going to end in tears....yippee vokken doo da....more local Derbies
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