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Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:40 pm
by Torquemada 1420
ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:12 pm
If Scotland are forced to play the rescheduled game with players missing they should just stick out the U20 squad and give a big fuck off to the 6N committee
You just know the 6N committee will fine Sco. It'll be Tyhpoon "Haggis"-gate all over again.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:41 pm
by robmatic
laurent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm
Rescheduled in July apparently
Sorry
That wouldn't make a lot of sense for the tournament though. Could be the deciding match for the championship, three months after everyone else has played.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:52 pm
by laurent
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:55 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm
Rescheduled in July apparently
Sorry
Where did you get that date from?
Twitter (Some journos in the bunch of rugby people I am following) however apparently is the word so far.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:43 pm
by Yr Alban
The tournament organisers have really fecked this. How come we went into a tournament during a pandemic without clear rules as to what happened in the event of, well, this?
What ought to happen is postponement to a date when both sides will be able to field a full team. This is obviously a problem with a date outside the windows, but the 6N should pay compensation to the clubs to release their players. After all, if the game is a farce, it’s their brand (the most valuable in the game?) that will be devalued as a result. However, I’ve read that it can’t be next weekend because the French team will still be isolating. A match in July really isn’t an option, as the Lions tour guarantees (even with Gatland in charge) that we will be missing at least 3-4 of our best players. And playing the game in the autumn is unlikely to work given that France at least will likely be in the mix for the title.
Dunno what the solution is, but Scotland had better not be shafted because France had an outbreak.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:06 pm
by Begbie
Both teams should nominate their best gamer and settle it with a game of Jonah Lomu Rugby.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:30 pm
by Chrysoprase
They should go back to rugby's core values and settle it with a drinking competition
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:04 pm
by tcc_dc
Chrysoprase wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:30 pm
They should go back to rugby's core values and settle it with a drinking competition
Not fair if the Scots have to buy
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:46 pm
by Slick
Have to say I’m finding it hard to care
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:01 pm
by Yr Alban
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:46 pm
Have to say I’m finding it hard to care
This is true. If we hadn’t blown it against Wales and were 2 for 2, I’d be really pissed off. But we did.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:06 pm
by Jock42
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:46 pm
Have to say I’m finding it hard to care
I am. They were still in it despite that and making progress. Was hoping they'd get another monkey of their backs.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:26 pm
by Hal Jordan
The French just have to add their Gallic flair to fucking up a Grand Slam chance, don't they? Making a bosh of it on the field like the rest of us is not good enough for them, eh?
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:41 pm
by Sandstorm
2 points each. Move on.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:57 am
by Slick
Jock42 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:06 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:46 pm
Have to say I’m finding it hard to care
I am. They were still in it despite that and making progress. Was hoping they'd get another monkey of their backs.
Fair enough mate. Just doesn't feel like a real 6N to me, just sick of the whole fucking situation. This was meant to be a bit of relief but it's now fucked as well, just want to move on and keep looking to things improving.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:15 pm
by PlanetGlyndwr
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:41 pm
2 points each. Move on.
Why should the Scottish suffer the consequences of an inept handling of the virus by the French?
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 pm
by Paddington Bear
Surely the precedent is what happened with foot & mouth? Play it in the autumn.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:35 pm
by laurent
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 pm
Surely the precedent is what happened with foot & mouth? Play it in the autumn.
Are you saying it's from cattle ;)
Should be doable but at any rate the clubs need to be on board (English and French).
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm
by Jock42
laurent wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:35 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 pm
Surely the precedent is what happened with foot & mouth? Play it in the autumn.
Are you saying it's from cattle ;)
Should be doable but at any rate the clubs need to be on board (English and French).
Scotland should have a spare weekend in Autumn so shouldn't be an issue.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:23 pm
by Biffer
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:35 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:23 pm
Surely the precedent is what happened with foot & mouth? Play it in the autumn.
Are you saying it's from cattle ;)
Should be doable but at any rate the clubs need to be on board (English and French).
Scotland should have a spare weekend in Autumn so shouldn't be an issue.
Sorry but that's BS. We want that spare weekend to be at BT Murrayfield because after the last year we need the fucking money.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:32 pm
by Jock42
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:23 pm
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:35 pm
Are you saying it's from cattle ;)
Should be doable but at any rate the clubs need to be on board (English and French).
Scotland should have a spare weekend in Autumn so shouldn't be an issue.
Sorry but that's BS. We want that spare weekend to be at BT Murrayfield because after the last year we need the fucking money.
It's not BS Scotland don't usually play that weekend and AFAIK have no plans to play that weekend.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:30 pm
by Biffer
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:32 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:23 pm
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 pm
Scotland should have a spare weekend in Autumn so shouldn't be an issue.
Sorry but that's BS. We want that spare weekend to be at BT Murrayfield because after the last year we need the fucking money.
It's not BS Scotland don't usually play that weekend and AFAIK have no plans to play that weekend.
Clubs only have to release players for three weekends.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:38 pm
by Jock42
Should have said that in the first place.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:55 pm
by Biffer
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:38 pm
Should have said that in the first place.
We've only announced two games so far, Australia and South Africa. Reasonable to assume that you were talking about the third weekend.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:17 pm
by Caley_Red
Begbie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:06 pm
Both teams should nominate their best gamer and settle it with a game of Jonah Lomu Rugby.
"He's digging like a demented mole"
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
by Caley_Red
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:43 pm
The tournament organisers have really fecked this. How come we went into a tournament during a pandemic without clear rules as to what happened in the event of, well, this?
What ought to happen is postponement to a date when both sides will be able to field a full team. This is obviously a problem with a date outside the windows, but the 6N should pay compensation to the clubs to release their players. After all, if the game is a farce, it’s their brand (the most valuable in the game?) that will be devalued as a result. However, I’ve read that it can’t be next weekend because the French team will still be isolating. A match in July really isn’t an option, as the Lions tour guarantees (even with Gatland in charge) that we will be missing at least 3-4 of our best players. And playing the game in the autumn is unlikely to work given that France at least will likely be in the mix for the title.
Dunno what the solution is, but Scotland had better not be shafted because France had an outbreak.
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did, a potential 6N champ is far more important!
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
by Tichtheid
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did,
a potential 6N champ is far more important!
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm
by Caley_Red
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did,
a potential 6N champ is far more important!
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
True but I think you'd struggle to find a Scotland fan agreeing
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:51 pm
by Tichtheid
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did,
a potential 6N champ is far more important!
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
True but I think you'd struggle to find a Scotland fan agreeing
Put any fan in the position of being picked for the Lions and I think they'd change their mind.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:13 pm
by Jock42
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did,
a potential 6N champ is far more important!
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
True but I think you'd struggle to find a Scotland fan agreeing
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:45 am
by Caley_Red
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:13 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
True but I think you'd struggle to find a Scotland fan agreeing
Et tu, Jock?
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:19 am
by Jock42
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:45 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:13 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 pm
True but I think you'd struggle to find a Scotland fan agreeing
Et tu, Jock?
Haha. Nah that would be a whore of a choice.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:43 am
by Monkey Magic
Also what do the players get paid for a lions tour vs a one off international?
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:54 am
by Caley_Red
Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:19 am
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:45 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:13 pm
Et tu, Jock?
Haha. Nah that would be a whore of a choice.
I did think so
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:16 am
by Torquemada 1420
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:24 pm
Caley_Red wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:21 pm
If it went to July and we were still in the hunt for championship then no one should be going on lions. I personally don't support the lions but even if I did,
a potential 6N champ is far more important!
I'm not sure the players would feel that way, the Lions is still the pinnacle for them.
A Lions series played in the UK would be a sham of a Lions series.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:58 am
by laurent
Looks like Laporte is rattled he pretty much went bonkers on radio yesterday on one of his mates show.
The sports minister is now very pissed of. And threatening to suspend the 6 nations.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:07 am
by Torquemada 1420
laurent wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:58 am
Looks like Laporte is rattled he pretty much went bonkers on radio yesterday on one of his mates show.
The sports minister is now very pissed of. And threatening to suspend the 6 nations.
Technically she's threatened to remove the French side's exemption to permit them to play in the 6N. 6N would go on: without France.
I like this girl: she's not letting Mackay or the FFR cronies off the hook lightly.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:30 pm
by Marylandolorian
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:26 pm
The French just
have to add their Gallic flair to fucking up a Grand Slam chance, don't they? Making a bosh of it on the field like the rest of us is not good enough for them, eh?
When you thing it’s the same people who are in charge for the next RWC
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:20 pm
by Margin__Walker
Article in the Times suggesting that the game is set to go ahead on 26th March. PRL apparently willing to release Scottish players
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:52 pm
by I like neeps
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:20 pm
Article in the Times suggesting that the game is set to go ahead on 26th March. PRL apparently willing to release Scottish players
Quite surprised PRL are willing to do them but good on them! I guess at this stage the RFU have a financial interest in the game being played and France beating us.
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:54 pm
by laurent
I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:52 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:20 pm
Article in the Times suggesting that the game is set to go ahead on 26th March. PRL apparently willing to release Scottish players
Quite surprised PRL are willing to do them but good on them! I guess at this stage the RFU have a financial interest in the game being played and France beating us.
Same date touted in French media. (LNR agreement so that's some Scottish Players available there).
Re: Looking like France C to play the Sweaties
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:56 pm
by JM2K6
I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:52 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:20 pm
Article in the Times suggesting that the game is set to go ahead on 26th March. PRL apparently willing to release Scottish players
Quite surprised PRL are willing to do them but good on them! I guess at this stage the RFU have a financial interest in the game being played and France beating us.
RFU might, PRL don't. Think they're just trying to avoid bad publicity tbh, and it's less of an issue during a season with no relegation and all kinds of other disruption.