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Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
by Big D
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:40 pm
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Gardner is not a good ref and has made mistakes but his early penalties v Argentina in the maul were right.
The ones in the lead up to the mauls were wrong - hands on the deck at the ruck and then no contact in the air at the lineout - when you get a maul going it's very difficult to not get penalties in your favour and the mauls were as a result of dodgy decisions
Don't recall the one before the line out but the one for contact in the air is a penalty. He jumped/was lifted across the line and does make contact body to body. Every ref would give that.
Not that I want to defend Gardner.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
by Insane_Homer
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:49 pm
I'd really like to see the scrum again from the other side
Replay suggests AB knee to the ground first, over extended.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
by Tichtheid
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:40 pm
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Gardner is not a good ref and has made mistakes but his early penalties v Argentina in the maul were right.
The ones in the lead up to the mauls were wrong - hands on the deck at the ruck and then no contact in the air at the lineout - when you get a maul going it's very difficult to not get penalties in your favour and the mauls were as a result of dodgy decisions
Don't recall the one before the line out but the one for contact in the air is a penalty. He jumped/was lifted across the line and does make contact body to body. Every ref would give that.
Not that I want to defend Gardner.
Nope.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:53 pm
by boere wors
As i said couple of hours ago, walk in the park for the ABs.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:53 pm
by Gumboot
Bit of an arm wrestle so far. Both sides having to make heaps of tackles.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:54 pm
by Tichtheid
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:49 pm
I'd really like to see the scrum again from the other side
Replay suggests AB knee to the ground first, over extended.
The view from this side looked like the ABs loosehead lock and flanker lost their footing, I couldn't see the props
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:56 pm
by SaintK
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:53 pm
Bit of an arm wrestle so far. Both sides having to make heaps of tackles.
But only one team looking like scoring tries
Argies 7 entries 6 points!!!
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:59 pm
by Jethro
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:49 pm
Boring Test. Crowd appear to be watching Tic toc.
6-20 HT
That would be the crowd booing every decision going the way of the ABs, yeah totally not involved.
Things could get explosive in the second half
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:59 pm
by Ymx
PCPhil wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:44 pm
Neutrals frothing I see
Nah. Just want a match.
I know.
I don’t. I want a complete mismatch. Argies to get carded off the pitch.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:00 pm
by Tichtheid
There is an inevitability about the second half, the ABs in this mood are ruthless for a good 15-20 minute period, it's going to take a monumental effort from Argentina to stop them, even just to maintain the deficit.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:02 pm
by Bloutoria
Poor Gardner is taking a beating on X.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:02 pm
by Sandstorm
Jethro wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:59 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:49 pm
Boring Test. Crowd appear to be watching Tic toc.
6-20 HT
That would be the crowd booing every decision going the way of the ABs, yeah totally not involved.
Things could get explosive in the second half
Mate, you just got out of bed. Shush.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
by Flockwitt
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:54 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:49 pm
I'd really like to see the scrum again from the other side
Replay suggests AB knee to the ground first, over extended.
The view from this side looked like the ABs loosehead lock and flanker lost their footing, I couldn't see the props
The Pumas couldn't handle the pressure, hinged and all the ABs ended on the deck. Easy penalty to give.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
by Gumboot
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm
by SaintK
Ymx wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:59 pm
PCPhil wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:44 pm
Neutrals frothing I see
Nah. Just want a match.
I know.
I don’t. I want a complete mismatch. Argies to get carded off the pitch.
Classy as usual
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm
by PCPhil
Problem is, we had 4 really great matches last week and amongst them 2 finals. Lopsided draw showing this week.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm
by Tichtheid
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:54 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Replay suggests AB knee to the ground first, over extended.
The view from this side looked like the ABs loosehead lock and flanker lost their footing, I couldn't see the props
The Pumas couldn't handle the pressure, hinged and all the ABs ended on the deck. Easy penalty to give.
Did you see a view from the Arg tighthead side?
I didn't see one.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:04 pm
by Slick
Argies definitely being hard done by with the reffing, but NZ just so clinical in the 22 - have they failed to come away with points yet?
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pm
by Jethro
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Would agree, ABs still appear to be in cruise control at the moment, which could bite them in the arse.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pm
by Oxbow
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Yours.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by Sandstorm
Nice try Snecky
Argies quit already
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by Kiwias
Another huge scrum and Nugget surprises the Pumas by running from the base. TRYYYYY
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by PCPhil
Jethro wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Would agree, ABs still appear to be in cruise control at the moment, which could bite them in the arse.
That didn't age well.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by Tichtheid
Jethro wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Would agree, ABs still appear to be in cruise control at the moment, which could bite them in the arse.
They haven't needed to step it up yet
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by Tichtheid
Well, there you go
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
by Ymx
Sneaky snecky
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:07 pm
by Kiwias
Crowd no longer seem interested in the match judging by the noise level
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:13 pm
by Sandstorm
Kiwis eventually crash over.
Game over after 50 mins. Shame.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:14 pm
by Ymx
That’s it. Keep the foot on the throat.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:14 pm
by Jethro
PCPhil wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:06 pm
Jethro wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:03 pm
This game is far from over. A couple of quick Pumas tries and it's all on again.
Would agree, ABs still appear to be in cruise control at the moment, which could bite them in the arse.
That didn't age well.
Admittedly two tries straight after the post, but doing better than the Aussie commentators who have decided the last try was the death blow, would have thought the try prior to the half was that.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:14 pm
by C69
Kiwias wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:07 pm
Crowd no longer seem interested in the match judging by the noise level
Always goin got be massive mismatch
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:15 pm
by Big D
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:40 pm
The ones in the lead up to the mauls were wrong - hands on the deck at the ruck and then no contact in the air at the lineout - when you get a maul going it's very difficult to not get penalties in your favour and the mauls were as a result of dodgy decisions
Don't recall the one before the line out but the one for contact in the air is a penalty. He jumped/was lifted across the line and does make contact body to body. Every ref would give that.
Not that I want to defend Gardner.
Nope.
You said there was no contact. He was clearly was thrown across and into the jumper. Every ref gives that.
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Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:16 pm
by Ymx
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:15 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:51 pm
Don't recall the one before the line out but the one for contact in the air is a penalty. He jumped/was lifted across the line and does make contact body to body. Every ref would give that.
Not that I want to defend Gardner.
Nope.
You said there was no contact. He was clearly was thrown across and into the jumper. Every ref gives that.
Fact checked
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:16 pm
by Big D
Time to protect a few players if your Foster.
Air of inevitably over this weekend.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:17 pm
by Big D
Ymx wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:16 pm
Fact checked
Only rewound as I thought I might be wrong as TH is right more than I am tbf.
Not sure what the lifters are doing.
Gardner better not get the final. He just isn't good.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:17 pm
by PCPhil
ABs got em on toast in every scrum.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:18 pm
by Tichtheid
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:15 pm
You said there was no contact. He was clearly was thrown across and into the jumper. Every ref gives that.
No, the bit I disagreed with is "every ref gives that".
There has been contact at just about every contested lineout in this game and all through the World Cup. It's usually given for hand on hand on the catchers, of which there was none in that case.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:19 pm
by Ymx
Big D wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:17 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:16 pm
Fact checked
Only rewound as I thought I might be wrong as TH is right more than I am tbf.
Not sure what the lifters are doing to be fair.
Gardner better not get the final. He just isn't good.
Much rather him than Barnes from our perspective.
Assuming we finish the job tonight
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:19 pm
by Bloutoria
ABs having fun now.
Re: RWC SF1: Argentina v New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:20 pm
by BnM
This is both disappointing and not disappointing because it was totally expected.
