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Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:12 am
by handyman
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:22 am
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:48 am
Blake wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:43 am

Agreed.

Willie can be infuriating to watch and has a crazy error count sometimes...but then he sets up the pass to Kolbe that results in the Jantjies score that results in a draw against the All Blacks away.
Or joins the line and set up a pin-point flat pass for a try like no other SA player.

I've always had a preference for a safe, bankable, last-line-of-defense fullback...but the last one we had was Percy.
If I had to choose between an error-prone Willie vs an error-prone Zane Kirchner nor Andries Coetzee, it's a no-brainer.
I have to admit, I'm really worried about our back-ups at 15 because none of Willemse, Bosch or Galant really fill me with much confidence.
I think Willemse can turn into a good fullback. He is a solid lad, can kick out of hand, not shy to run it to the line and a very good defender. It also might take away his approach of trying to create magic with every touch.
Watch Odendaals run for Jantjies try...watch the last defender...watch how he throws himself onto the floor like a petulant child and has a mini tantrum whilst Odendaal ghosts past him without a hand touching him.....
No offence, but I only talk rugby with people that watch and understand rugby.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:14 am
by handyman
Blake wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:26 am
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:11 am I agree with you re Willemse, BUT, he is only 22, he is still learning his craft, so I'm prepared give him another few years. Remember, Willie first played SupeRugby aged 23 and for the Boks his first test was aged 24.

Willemse has time on his side, let's hope all the people hyping him are right and that he will come through in the end. Writing players off aged 22 is daft.
Agree that he is still a kid and will mature as a player. I'm looking forward to that.
Just saying he's not there yet, and I'm not going to pretend that he is.

At the moment he is not impressing at flyhalf at all and our backline is useless.
In the passed we blamed the 9 or 12 for that, but 9 has been sorted now, so the blame has to go to 10.
If he is too young to be an effective general at this level, we need to start with somebody else and sub Willemse in in the last quarter to develop his game.
Agree with all of that, I would like to see him go up North for a couple of seasons to get some structure in his game.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:21 am
by Sards
Watch at 4:40............brat....stomping his feet into the ground like a spoilt child....and dont tell me he is a good defender because he is not . A very poor attempt at a tackle


Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:27 am
by sorCrer
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:21 am Watch at 4:40............brat....stomping his feet into the ground like a spoilt child....and dont tell me he is a good defender because he is not . A very poor attempt at a tackle
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:37 am
by boere wors
just stumbled across this article... well, well well
https://rugbyonslaught.com/was-handre-p ... world-cup/

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:55 am
by Sards
sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:27 am
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:21 am Watch at 4:40............brat....stomping his feet into the ground like a spoilt child....and dont tell me he is a good defender because he is not . A very poor attempt at a tackle
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
oh vokken dear.......your'e are a boring old fart......

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 am
by average joe
boere wors wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:37 am just stumbled across this article... well, well well
https://rugbyonslaught.com/was-handre-p ... world-cup/
Rugby onslaught has had it in for the Boks since we won the world cup. According to them we bought the ref's, we cheated, our players are kak sleg and we should just give the cup back. They're a bit of a joke shop really.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:30 pm
by boere wors
average joe wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 am
boere wors wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:37 am just stumbled across this article... well, well well
https://rugbyonslaught.com/was-handre-p ... world-cup/
Rugby onslaught has had it in for the Boks since we won the world cup. According to them we bought the ref's, we cheated, our players are kak sleg and we should just give the cup back. They're a bit of a joke shop really.
Ok that's why, I was already wondering what a joke that is. Didn't know that site. Looking at the other articles, it makes sense now

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:47 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:55 am
sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:27 am
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:21 am Watch at 4:40............brat....stomping his feet into the ground like a spoilt child....and dont tell me he is a good defender because he is not . A very poor attempt at a tackle
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
oh vokken dear.......your'e are a boring old fart......
You are so obsessed with Gazza, its getting boring.

You must watch Chasing the sun to understand the works within the Springbok team.

Jantjies played an important role preparing in the lead up to the next test playing like the opposition 10 in practises.

After watching that its obvious that he will walk into the Bok team if Pollard gets injured. I also see that Johan Goosen is going to the Bulls. Once he start playing, he'll walk into the Bok team.

Rassie playing with a 6/2 split on the bench make versatile players like Pollard/Steyn/Goose/Gazza important.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:22 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:47 pm
Sards wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:55 am
sorCrer wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:27 am

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
oh vokken dear.......your'e are a boring old fart......
You are so obsessed with Gazza, its getting boring.

You must watch Chasing the sun to understand the works within the Springbok team.

Jantjies played an important role preparing in the lead up to the next test playing like the opposition 10 in practises.

After watching that its obvious that he will walk into the Bok team if Pollard gets injured. I also see that Johan Goosen is going to the Bulls. Once he start playing, he'll walk into the Bok team.

Rassie playing with a 6/2 split on the bench make versatile players like Pollard/Steyn/Goose/Gazza important.
Gazza is a vokop....he shouldn't be anywhere near the boks

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 pm
by handyman
Goosen is 28 now, hope he has grown out of his grille and giere.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:41 pm
by assfly
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 pm Goosen is 28 now, hope he has grown out of his grille and giere.
That guy should have/could have had 100 caps by now. Such a shame.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:43 pm
by handyman
assfly wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:41 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 pm Goosen is 28 now, hope he has grown out of his grille and giere.
That guy should have/could have had 100 caps by now. Such a shame.
Quite right. I think possibly Rassie's best skill is his ability to pick the players with the best attitude, heart and kop. Goosen might be playing SupeRugby and Currie Cup for a while...

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:39 pm
by Blake
average joe wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 am
boere wors wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:37 am just stumbled across this article... well, well well
https://rugbyonslaught.com/was-handre-p ... world-cup/
Rugby onslaught has had it in for the Boks since we won the world cup. According to them we bought the ref's, we cheated, our players are kak sleg and we should just give the cup back. They're a bit of a joke shop really.
Pretty much this. Shit site and bad hit job on Handre. Some of those were bad passes TO him, yet he gets blamed? Or other defenders running into him?

Could make a similar video on any player when you follow them around for a couple of matches and make a compilation of their fuck ups.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:20 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:41 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 pm Goosen is 28 now, hope he has grown out of his grille and giere.
That guy should have/could have had 100 caps by now. Such a shame.
Ja. Look he was made of glass early on in his career but The Widowmaker Meyer killed his Bok career by playing him while injured.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
by Sards
“Salmaan and JD are a great combination and I see them as potentially becoming a Bakkies and Victor combination that will terrorise teams in the years to come." - Do you agree with DHL Stormers forwards coach Rito Hlungwani?

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
by Chilli
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
“Salmaan and JD are a great combination and I see them as potentially becoming a Bakkies and Victor combination that will terrorise teams in the years to come." - Do you agree with DHL Stormers forwards coach Rito Hlungwani?
No.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:50 am
by OomStruisbaai
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
“Salmaan and JD are a great combination and I see them as potentially becoming a Bakkies and Victor combination that will terrorise teams in the years to come." - Do you agree with DHL Stormers forwards coach Rito Hlungwani?
No.
Yes. Salmat was outstanding against the Lions. Both are Springboks in the making

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am
by Gumboot
Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am
by assfly
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?
The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:47 am
by Gumboot
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?
The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.
Quite.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:05 am
by Sards
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:47 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?
The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.
Quite.
Dude , the true rugby supporters feel your anguish...the fair weather supporters are quite happy with the situation.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:30 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:50 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
Sards wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am
No.
Yes. Salmat was outstanding against the Lions. Both are Springboks in the making
Agreed they were both very good, but hardly Bakkies and Victor.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:43 am
by Sards
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:50 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am

No.
Yes. Salmat was outstanding against the Lions. Both are Springboks in the making
Agreed they were both very good, but hardly Bakkies and Victor.
Hardly any better than Marvin .....Definitely not in the class of RG......Hyron is also up there.

Bit ridiculous to presume our future boks will only come from Province

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:56 am
by boere wors
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:20 am
assfly wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:41 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 pm Goosen is 28 now, hope he has grown out of his grille and giere.
That guy should have/could have had 100 caps by now. Such a shame.
Ja. Look he was made of glass early on in his career but The Widowmaker Meyer killed his Bok career by playing him while injured.
What a joke that was, i remember that game. Didn't he do his acl then and was out for good?

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:27 am
by OomStruisbaai
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:50 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:43 am

No.
Yes. Salmat was outstanding against the Lions. Both are Springboks in the making
Agreed they were both very good, but hardly Bakkies and Victor.
I cant argue that. Locks and fatties are like red wine , older the better. Both are still spring chickens and raw but have the talent to go places.

Their combination are right.

JD is lucky to still play rugby.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm
by FalseBayFC
JJ van der Mescht better than Moerat. JD Schikerling just not physical enough and doesn't have the engine of say a Mostert.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 am
by assfly
Can anyone here recommend any decent SA rugby podcasts?

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:27 am
by Blake
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 am Can anyone here recommend any decent SA rugby podcasts?
The Daily Maverick has a Maverick Sport podcast. It’s not rugby specific, but they do have coaches and former players on from time to time.

This interview with Jacques Nienaber in July was quite interesting. https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/m ... 0485175322

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:29 am
by assfly
Blake wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:27 am The Daily Maverick has a Maverick Sport podcast. It’s not rugby specific, but they do have coaches and former players on from time to time.

This interview with Jacques Nienaber in July was quite interesting. https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/m ... 0485175322
Cheers, will give it a listen to this week.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:53 am
by handyman
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm JJ van der Mescht better than Moerat. JD Schikerling just not physical enough and doesn't have the engine of say a Mostert.
Shickerling can play 4 or 5, you need to drink and post less when under the influence sards...

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 am
by Sards
handyman wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:53 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm JJ van der Mescht better than Moerat. JD Schikerling just not physical enough and doesn't have the engine of say a Mostert.
wibble wibble wibble...
JD looked like a PSDT beginning of the match....running into players ad nauseum...

When he started passing the ball tries were scored.....makes you think ne'......

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:03 am
by handyman
Sards wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 am
handyman wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:53 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm JJ van der Mescht better than Moerat. JD Schikerling just not physical enough and doesn't have the engine of say a Mostert.
wibble wibble wibble...
JD looked like a PSDT beginning of the match....running into players ad nauseum...

When he started passing the ball tries were scored.....makes you think ne'......
PSDT who is up for player of the decade award? Not a bad role model.

You need to understand that in rugby, you can't run from the word go. You need to build an innings. Watch Chasing the Sun on Sundays. I find it weird that you post on here without educating yourself, you risk exposing yourself as ignorant.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm
by Sandstorm
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm JJ van der Mescht
JJvdM is about 1 pie short of matching Malherbe for Gut of the Year.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 am
by Green light echo
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?
The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.
One thing that SA won't be doing is playing Test rugby. This year or next. No lions tour for you boets. Enjoy the isolation once again.

And sort your country out. It's a fucking clownshop.
SARU just follows this general trend.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:09 am
by Chilli
Green light echo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:54 am Time to rename this thread "Springbokke going nowhere"?
The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.
One thing that SA won't be doing is playing Test rugby. This year or next. No lions tour for you boets. Enjoy the isolation once again.

And sort your country out. It's a fucking clownshop.
SARU just follows this general trend.
You still haven't answered my question

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:15 am
by Green light echo
Chilli wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:09 am
Green light echo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 am
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am

The Rugby Championship and World Cup Champions do what the fuck they want.
One thing that SA won't be doing is playing Test rugby. This year or next. No lions tour for you boets. Enjoy the isolation once again.

And sort your country out. It's a fucking clownshop.
SARU just follows this general trend.
You still haven't answered my question
:lol: :lol:

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:20 am
by Chilli
Green light echo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:15 am
Chilli wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:09 am
Green light echo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 am

One thing that SA won't be doing is playing Test rugby. This year or next. No lions tour for you boets. Enjoy the isolation once again.

And sort your country out. It's a fucking clownshop.
SARU just follows this general trend.
You still haven't answered my question
:lol: :lol:
There is nothing funny about your cowardice.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:16 am
by OomStruisbaai
Calling me Oomthicko, confusing me with Nipper.

Re: Springbokke going forward

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:21 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:16 am Calling me Oomthicko, confusing me with Nipper.
I was wondering why he was calling himself Big Nipper....now I know

:lolno: