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weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

mat the expat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:11 am

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

Sadly, probably long destroyed nowadays

by the late 80s, we had drilled-barrelled Lee Enfields for Drill only

mat the expat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:11 am

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

Sadly, probably long destroyed nowadays

by the late 80s, we had drilled-barrelled Lee Enfields for Drill only

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:28 am

mat the expat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:11 am

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

Sadly, probably long destroyed nowadays

by the late 80s, we had drilled-barrelled Lee Enfields for Drill only

Hopefully kept plenty screwdrivers on hand to open the ammo boxes. That can cause all sorts of problems.

Brazil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:35 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:28 am

mat the expat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:11 am

Sadly, probably long destroyed nowadays

by the late 80s, we had drilled-barrelled Lee Enfields for Drill only

Hopefully kept plenty screwdrivers on hand to open the ammo boxes. That can cause all sorts of problems.

That turned out to be a myth, unfortunately.

The Martini Henry was a great gun, the rounds could put a hole in you big enough to fuck.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:41 am

Brazil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:35 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:28 am

Hopefully kept plenty screwdrivers on hand to open the ammo boxes. That can cause all sorts of problems.

That turned out to be a myth, unfortunately.

The Martini Henry was a great gun, the rounds could put a hole in you big enough to fuck.

I wouldn't say it was a myth. It's not the entire cause, far more to it than that, but there was elements of truth to it, accompanied by poor distribution of ammo on the whole.

Brazil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:50 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:41 am

Brazil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:35 am

That turned out to be a myth, unfortunately.

The Martini Henry was a great gun, the rounds could put a hole in you big enough to fuck.

I wouldn't say it was a myth. It's not the entire cause, far more to it than that, but there was elements of truth to it, accompanied by poor distribution of ammo on the whole.

I thought it was that Smith Dorrien got it wrong in his account and then Morris repeated it in The Washing of the Spears. The main causes were the line being too exposed so that when Durnford (who did run out of ammunition, on account of having gone out too far to reconnoitre) was overrun and the NNC folded, which exposed the right flank so that G Company was overwhelmed. After that they tried pulling back to the camp, but by that point the Zulu right horn had got round the back and they were wiped out piecemeal.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:06 pm They are firing missiles from Transnistria into Ukraine?
That's stock they won't be able to replenish in a hurry.

happytramp wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:13 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:06 pm They are firing missiles from Transnistria into Ukraine?
That's stock they won't be able to replenish in a hurry.

Think they came from the black sea.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:20 pm

happytramp wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:13 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:06 pm They are firing missiles from Transnistria into Ukraine?
That's stock they won't be able to replenish in a hurry.

Think they came from the black sea.

Yes from near the SW Crimea coast towards L'viv

Brazil wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:43 pm Presumably they're coming from the Kilos?

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

pjm1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:26 pm

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

Were you at TGA perchance?!

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:03 am Very moving story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64523029

weegie01 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:34 pm

pjm1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:26 pm

weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 pm Talking of obsolete.

When I was in the OTC at school in the early 1970s we had an armoury with 150 Lee Enfields and a lot of .303 ammunition. We also has two Brens and ammo for them. Every private school in the area had similar, the theory being that we and local veterans could put up some resistance.

What was bizarre then, and is even more in retrospect, is that we also had racks of Martini Henry breech loading rifles, plus ammo. Exactly what anyone was going to do with them is a mystery, but every single weapon was meticulously maintained.

Were you at TGA perchance?!

No, about 50 miles noth north east in God's country.

pjm1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:43 am Ah fair enough. The Academy is one of the few schools now that still has a rifle range (next to the sports hall). Probably the reason the army division of CCF is so popular…

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 am

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:03 am Very moving story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64523029

Yulia needs to be told to get the fück out of Dodge for the sake of her child.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 am

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:03 am Very moving story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64523029

Yulia needs to be told to get the fück out of Dodge for the sake of her child.

Hellraiser wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:32 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 am

TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:03 am Very moving story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64523029

Yulia needs to be told to get the fück out of Dodge for the sake of her child.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:31 am