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Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:40 pm
by Longshanks
Tight finish
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 pm
by JM2K6
Great win - well done Ireland. Had to turn over after 15 overs of the reply. Paul Stirling loves playing England, eh?
Unimpressed with what I saw of Tom Curran with the ball, and we just have too many batsmen throwing wickets away at the moment, but I didn't think Ireland would be able to chase it down, let alone with 7 wickets in hand.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:54 pm
by Botha Boy
Any update on the result from the biggest sporting event in the world tonight ? ...
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:56 pm
by Botha Boy
Bugger, beaten to the punch by taking 3 minutes to write less than 15 words ...
All aboard the Band Wagon !
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:58 pm
by Saint
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 pm
Great win - well done Ireland. Had to turn over after 15 overs of the reply. Paul Stirling loves playing England, eh?
Unimpressed with what I saw of Tom Curran with the ball, and we just have too many batsmen throwing wickets away at the moment, but I didn't think Ireland would be able to chase it down, let alone with 7 wickets in hand.
Funny comment on Cricinfo with around 7 overs to go - English batting depth is great, but the bowling depth isn't there. That may or may not be true, but the bats significantly underperformed today which left the bowlers with a lot to do
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:01 am
by dkm57
That was one hell of a match, well done Ireland. Ridiculous they don't have another match for months.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
by Enzedder
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
by JM2K6
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:16 am
by Saint
England-Pakistan series starts today - and (finally) front foot no balls will be adjudicated by the TV umpire.
Long overdue
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:47 am
by JM2K6
Thanks for the reminder - turn on Sky Go to be faced with Shane Warne saying how much he loves Jos Buttler as a Test batsman - "he can take the game away from you" - and Ian Ward saying his keeping has been fantastic with no problems at all.
What have I ever done to you, Saint
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:42 pm
by JM2K6
Archer and Woakes the pick of the bowlers so far, both with a wicket each off great balls. Shan and Babar Azam are properly in, though, and look very good.
Buttler with his first dropped catch of the series off Bess.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:10 pm
by Saint
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:47 am
Thanks for the reminder - turn on Sky Go to be faced with Shane Warne saying how much he loves Jos Buttler as a Test batsman - "he can take the game away from you" - and Ian Ward saying his keeping has been fantastic with no problems at all.
What have I ever done to you, Saint
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:00 pm
by JM2K6
Cricket is so anachronistic. They went off for rain, came back but the umpires have stopped England bowling their quicks because the light is too bad, so we have Root and Bess bowling.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm
by JM2K6
Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
by Biffer
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm
Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:37 pm
by Enzedder
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Nah, we have won 3 from 3 against the plucky Scots. Last time we nearly cocked it up though - rolled them for bugger all and then stuttered in the race for quick runs and only just got home.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:05 am
by JM2K6
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:37 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Nah, we have won 3 from 3 against the plucky Scots. Last time we nearly cocked it up though - rolled them for bugger all and then stuttered in the race for quick runs and only just got home.
The very last time was cancelled due to COVD. It was one of them jokes.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
by SaintK
Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm
Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
by Biffer
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm
Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:22 am
by Saint
Azam out first over driving to Anderson
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:31 am
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Didn't we beat you last year?
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:38 am
by JM2K6
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
What's really mad is we have a quality keeper in Ben Foakes who's also a better bat than Buttler in the longer forms of the game.
Asad Shafiq gone - Pakistan looking a little vulnerable at 150-4. It's really felt like a proper Test so far in a way that the WI series didn't; high quality bowling meets high quality confident batting.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:39 am
by JM2K6
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:31 am
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:04 am
Worst world champs ever - hand over the title to the worthy and deserving co- champions.
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Didn't we beat you last year?
Probably, I wasn't being entirely serious. Everyone can beat everyone in ODIs and T20s.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 am
by dkm57
Broad unlucky with 2 reviews, second was fair enough but I think it was bat nicking pad on the first one.
Shaping up to be an interesting match
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:56 am
by Biffer
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:38 am
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
What's really mad is we have a quality keeper in Ben Foakes who's also a better bat than Buttler in the longer forms of the game.
Asad Shafiq gone - Pakistan looking a little vulnerable at 150-4. It's really felt like a proper Test so far in a way that the WI series didn't; high quality bowling meets high quality confident batting.
Yeah, but he doesn’t get picked because there’s this idiot fixed idea of ‘we’ve got to pick the extra batsman, we need to get someone really destructive’. Adam Gilchrist destroyed wicket keeping as a specialism.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:13 am
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:39 am
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:31 am
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:11 am
Pff, you couldn't even beat Scotland.
Didn't we beat you last year?
Probably, I wasn't being entirely serious. Everyone can beat everyone in ODIs and T20s.
Let me be.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:10 pm
by tabascoboy
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
Alan Knott's test career average is higher than Buttler's so far plus he scored 5 test match centuries and 30 fifties. Not bad for "not good enough!"
But I guess Alex Stewart is the more modern ideal.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:21 pm
by Biffer
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:10 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:11 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 am
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
Alan Knott's test career average is higher than Buttler's so far plus he scored 5 test match centuries and 30 fifties. Not bad for "not good enough!"
But I guess Alex Stewart is the more modern ideal.
Knott's average isn't that far off Stewart's when Stewart was playing as a wicket keeper, either (32.7 v 34.9).
Foakes average is a fair bit higher than Buttler's in First Class cricket. And he's younger than Buttler. Scored a ton on debut in his only test match. I don't understand what the attraction of Buttler is to the selectors.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:24 pm
by tabascoboy
The England selectors basically hate Ben Foakes. If he asked them to meet him for a pint, they’d be busy and that would be no big deal. It’s the fact that he keeps asking them and they keep coming up with different excuses. It’s not a case of one single glaring omission. It’s a cumulative thing.
Let’s start with the very basic facts: Ben Foakes is a 26-year-old human male who has played five Test matches. When he played these matches, the main thing that happened was that everyone went, “Wow, this guy’s really good at wicketkeeping.” He also made a fifty and a hundred and averaged 41.50 with the bat.
England were so impressed with Foakes’ Test performances that they resolved never to pick him again under any circumstances. Not even to carry the drinks.
https://www.cricket365.com/alex-bowden/ ... en-foakes/
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:28 pm
by JM2K6
Shan Masoon gets a well deserved century. He'll thank Jos for those two lives, I'm sure.
This piece was in my inbox - really brings home just how much work he's had to do to succeed at this level:
https://wickets.substack.com/p/shan-masood-the-rebuild
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:16 pm
by JM2K6
Shadab out in the 40s, going to slog Bess (who's bowling nicely) and ballooning it for Root to take an easy catch. Shan Masood still there. These two really put pressure on England particularly with loads of quick singles.
Into the bowlers, Yasir Shah in now to annoy England for a while.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:26 pm
by JM2K6
Buttler drops another one off the spinner. He's fucking hopeless.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:59 pm
by JM2K6
Buttler botches a run-out with an awful throw to the other end.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:28 pm
by JM2K6
Shan Masood out for a million runs. Well, 156 from 319 balls.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:05 pm
by dkm57
Pakistan bowlers looking good
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:14 pm
by Biffer
England properly under the cosh here. If Stokes goes they're done for 150
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:20 pm
by And 1 guest
Stokes gone. This is top quality from Pakistan.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:22 pm
by JM2K6
Pretty spectacular bowling.
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:24 pm
by dkm57
at this rate they'll be lucky to reach 50
Re: The Official Cricket Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:30 pm
by And 1 guest
I hope we get to see the teenager and the two legspinners