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Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:27 am
by Carter's Choice
Gumboot wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:26 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:16 am Southland have had lots of attacking opportunities but have lacked accuracy at crucial moments. Could easily be leading this match but instead trail North Harbour 0-7.
Yeah, they just keep fluffing their chances, a bit like Waikato in the first half against Tasman.

This game is not great viewing so far.
The match started very well but disintegrated as the 1st half went on.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:43 am
by Taranaki Snapper
Stevenson needs to go off...

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:49 am
by Taranaki Snapper
Stags butcher a try...

Image

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:59 am
by Taranaki Snapper
Cabbage with the cannonball counter-ruck!

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:24 am
by Carter's Choice
Lol, Southland win 11-10.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:26 am
by Gumboot
It wasn't pretty, but the Stags get the job done again. :thumbup:

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:59 am
by Turbster
Great work by Southland... and that's what it was all about, and while it's unkind to pick out some ahead of others, Lambourn was excellent (so I hope the Highlanders grab him), but I thought the 7, Matt James was outstanding, with turnovers, tackles, clean-outs galore.
The other thing to like was that unlike past Southland teams (in the last 10 years), the backs appeared more eager, or maybe just more confident about running the ball with Nicole, Moorby, Eade, even TeTamaki making telling runs late in the game. Good on ya Stags, putting the pride back in Southland rugby.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:05 am
by Jb1981
Great stuff by Southland. I knew the last few years had been lean but checking past tables after three games this season they are one win away from matching their tally from their prior 40 Mitre 10 cup fixtures.

Apologies to Tasman but the Stags have bumped them out second team status for me for the season.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:08 am
by stemoc
hawkes-canta game on..

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:10 am
by stemoc
visnia is bigger than mataele lol

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:14 am
by stemoc
visinia is a penalty magnet

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:19 am
by Kiwias
Just switched this on in time to see Mataele and Drummond totally fuck up a 2-1 5m from the Bay line

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:21 am
by stemoc
Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:19 am Just switched this on in time to see Mataele and Drummond totally fuck up a 2-1 5m from the Bay line
drummond didn't trsut himself to score..

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:21 am
by stemoc
now visinia bombs and easy one

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:24 am
by stemoc
visinia probably scored one lol

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:25 am
by stemoc
nope bombs another one lol

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:29 am
by stemoc
3-0 to bay 20misn in

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:30 am
by stemoc
lol mataeel fell like a brick

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 am
by Enzedder
Nice move to put Visinia in - too big

8 - 0 to The Bay

Kick is over for 10

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:35 am
by stemoc
now visinia scores

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:45 am
by stemoc
jOE WEBER IS THE STANDARD LOL..

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:46 am
by stemoc
SHIT LIENSMAN, TAHT WASA GOOD ONE BY MANASA

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:48 am
by Jb1981
I’m needing to follow online so don’t know about game quality but based on score alone Canterbury have an issue with starting games this season. They were down 20-3 at halftime last week, are trailing 10-0 nearing halftime now and were behind North Harbour at halftime in week one.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:49 am
by Jb1981
stemoc wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:46 am SHIT LIENSMAN, TAHT WASA GOOD ONE BY MANASA
WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT WASA GOOD?

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:00 am
by stemoc
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:49 am
stemoc wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:46 am SHIT LIENSMAN, TAHT WASA GOOD ONE BY MANASA
WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT WASA GOOD?
caps lock again lol, manasa caught the ball and threw it back in, but the linesman was like, nah its out..replay showed he was wrong

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:02 am
by stemoc
canty hooker scores!!

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:07 am
by stemoc
is mckay even playing haven;t head his name all game

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:22 am
by Gumboot
stemoc wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:07 am is mckay even playing haven;t head his name all game
:thumbup:

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:22 am
by Kiwias
stemoc wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:07 am is mckay even playing haven;t head his name all game
Yep.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:31 am
by Jambanja
Some crazy ball handling skills the by HB, great try

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:43 am
by Mr Bungle
Turbster wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:59 am Great work by Southland... and that's what it was all about, and while it's unkind to pick out some ahead of others, Lambourn was excellent (so I hope the Highlanders grab him), but I thought the 7, Matt James was outstanding, with turnovers, tackles, clean-outs galore.
The other thing to like was that unlike past Southland teams (in the last 10 years), the backs appeared more eager, or maybe just more confident about running the ball with Nicole, Moorby, Eade, even TeTamaki making telling runs late in the game. Good on ya Stags, putting the pride back in Southland rugby.
There's your "10 years" timeframe again. We won the shield less than 10 years ago. We've been shithouse for 3-4 seasons.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:49 am
by Enzedder
Wow - just wow

2 in 2 matches

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:51 am
by Jambanja
Oh wow, what a win HB, great result for them and their supporters, I play golf with Brad Webber’s dad, he’s going to be over the moon 👍

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:53 am
by Gumboot
Well done, Magpies.

Good to see Sam Darry go the full 80 and get better as the game went on. Encouraging signs.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:59 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Just finished watching a recording of Hawke's Bay vs Canterbury.

Hawke's Bay were full credit for their 20-19 win but with Canterbury coming back to lead 19-10 with 20 to play I noticed a couple of critical errors from the visitors:

1. Taking off champion halfback Mitchell Drummond way too early, which is a mistake Canterbury seem committed to repeating.
2. Declining a very gettable penalty kick with no more than 15 minutes remaining, which would have put them up 22-10. There's definitely an allergy about easy three points when it comes to Kiwi sides, no matter how much it can help them.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:26 am
by Turbster
Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:43 am
Turbster wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:59 am Great work by Southland... and that's what it was all about, and while it's unkind to pick out some ahead of others, Lambourn was excellent (so I hope the Highlanders grab him), but I thought the 7, Matt James was outstanding, with turnovers, tackles, clean-outs galore.
The other thing to like was that unlike past Southland teams (in the last 10 years), the backs appeared more eager, or maybe just more confident about running the ball with Nicole, Moorby, Eade, even TeTamaki making telling runs late in the game. Good on ya Stags, putting the pride back in Southland rugby.
There's your "10 years" timeframe again. We won the shield less than 10 years ago. We've been shithouse for 3-4 seasons.
Only the most one-eyed would say it's not been a miserable last ten years, and even winning the shield twice (I think) during that time didn't paper over the cracks. Southland, and I hate to say it, has been used alternately as a doormat, and a nursery by the bigger unions actually ever since the game went pro, but I'll not whinge about it. As I tried to get across in what I wrote, and obviously missed my target, the best thing was seeing the backs 'with the confidence to run' late in the game... and that is something that only comes with belief.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:32 am
by mrbrownstone
That was close to the worst half of rugby I've seen from a Canterbury side, and even then we still should have held on to win. It's hard to be too disappointed after dominating this competition so much in recent years. Realistically this is an average Canterbury side, who might scrape into the semis, but won't threaten the title.

I've said enough about Brett 'miss from in front' Cameron over the years, but suffice to say we'll never be close to a title with him at the helm. Josh McKay should have been playing 10 for the last few years.

It doesn't exactly paint Reuben Thorne (Reuben Thorne, Reuben Thooooorne) in a great light as a coach either, and makes Scott Robertson look all the better. Last week he was handed something close to a Crusaders team (certainly from 1-11) and they produced a similarly error riddled display. As mentioned, there have been some strange selection calls so far - Josh McKay is better at fullback than on the wing, Tom Christie is our best openside, and Reed Prinsep isn't one of our three best loose forwards, and shouldn't be captain. Taking Drummond off early was an error too.

On the bright side, Sam Darry was impressive in his debut and has a huge future, Fletcher Newell looks like another in a long line of quality Canterbury tight forwards, and Manasa Mataele would be an asset to any Super side - he's good enough to start if not for the Crusaders' logjam.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:34 am
by Ted.
Just watched the 2nd half, had to abandon the game at half time or be lynched. What a nail biter. Well done Hawkes Bay, I thought it was done and dusted when Canterbury took the lead.

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:40 am
by Turbster
Turbster wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:26 am
Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:43 am
Turbster wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:59 am Great work by Southland... and that's what it was all about, and while it's unkind to pick out some ahead of others, Lambourn was excellent (so I hope the Highlanders grab him), but I thought the 7, Matt James was outstanding, with turnovers, tackles, clean-outs galore.
The other thing to like was that unlike past Southland teams (in the last 10 years), the backs appeared more eager, or maybe just more confident about running the ball with Nicole, Moorby, Eade, even TeTamaki making telling runs late in the game. Good on ya Stags, putting the pride back in Southland rugby.
There's your "10 years" timeframe again. We won the shield less than 10 years ago. We've been shithouse for 3-4 seasons.
Only the most one-eyed would say it's not been a miserable last ten years, and even winning the shield twice (I think) during that time didn't paper over the cracks. Southland, and I hate to say it, has been used alternately as a doormat, and a nursery by the bigger unions actually ever since the game went pro, but I'll not whinge about it. As I tried to get across in what I wrote, and obviously missed my target, the best thing was seeing the backs 'with the confidence to run' late in the game... and that is something that only comes with belief.
And anyway... why are we bitching at each other? We're both on the same side aren't we?

Re: 2020 Mitre 10 Cup Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:41 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:32 am That was close to the worst half of rugby I've seen from a Canterbury side, and even then we still should have held on to win. It's hard to be too disappointed after dominating this competition so much in recent years. Realistically this is an average Canterbury side, who might scrape into the semis, but won't threaten the title.

I've said enough about Brett 'miss from in front' Cameron over the years, but suffice to say we'll never be close to a title with him at the helm. Josh McKay should have been playing 10 for the last few years.

It doesn't exactly paint Reuben Thorne (Reuben Thorne, Reuben Thooooorne) in a great light as a coach either, and makes Scott Robertson look all the better. Last week he was handed something close to a Crusaders team (certainly from 1-11) and they produced a similarly error riddled display. As mentioned, there have been some strange selection calls so far - Josh McKay is better at fullback than on the wing, Tom Christie is our best openside, and Reed Prinsep isn't one of our three best loose forwards, and shouldn't be captain. Taking Drummond off early was an error too.

On the bright side, Sam Darry was impressive in his debut and has a huge future, Fletcher Newell looks like another in a long line of quality Canterbury tight forwards, and Manasa Mataele would be an asset to any Super side - he's good enough to start if not for the Crusaders' logjam.
Funny isn't it, both Thorne and Blackadder - who Canterbury fans urged us to consider as more than average players - have turned out to be fuck all as coaches too.