Alun Wyn Jones..........Lions captain 2021

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"The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"

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The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm "The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"

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What would he be now, 10th or 12th best lock in the British Isles?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 pm
The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm "The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"

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Betfair have Jones at 7/4, with Farrell at 3/1 and Maro Itoje at 7/2.

Sky Bet have Jones at 9/4, Itoje at 3/1 and Farrell at 7/2.
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How many times has Itoje captained the English team at Senior level?
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Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:53 pm What would he be now, 10th or 12th best lock in the British Isles?
Not sure it’s as high as that. Great player, but this might be a Lions Tour too far. Since it’s Gats, though, 7/2 won’t be far off.
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The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm "The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"
By whom?
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Shades of 2005 here.
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C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:27 pm How many times has Itoje captained the English team at Senior level?
As many times as Martin Johnson had captained England prior to the 1997 Lions tour
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Chrysoprase wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:46 pm
The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm "The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"
By whom?
Betfair have Jones at 7/4, with Farrell at 3/1 and Maro Itoje at 7/2.

Sky Bet have Jones at 9/4, Itoje at 3/1 and Farrell at 7/2.

And Irish company Boyle Sports have Jones as a clear market leader at 13/8.
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duke wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:16 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:27 pm How many times has Itoje captained the English team at Senior level?
As many times as Martin Johnson had captained England prior to the 1997 Lions tour
How many?
Rather than anecdotes
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C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:12 pm
duke wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:16 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:27 pm How many times has Itoje captained the English team at Senior level?
As many times as Martin Johnson had captained England prior to the 1997 Lions tour
How many?
Rather than anecdotes
0 the point being itisnt a pre-requisite :bimbo:
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Openside wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:43 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:12 pm
duke wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:16 pm

As many times as Martin Johnson had captained England prior to the 1997 Lions tour
How many?
Rather than anecdotes
0 the point being itisnt a pre-requisite :bimbo:
Not a prerequisite but very desirable to have an experienced captain in charge.
For the record I don't think AWJ will even tour.
He will be old broken by then probably.
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The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 pm
Chrysoprase wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:46 pm
The Druid wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm "The Welshman is increasingly being seen as the likely leader for the tour in 2021"
By whom?
Betfair have Jones at 7/4, with Farrell at 3/1 and Maro Itoje at 7/2.

Sky Bet have Jones at 9/4, Itoje at 3/1 and Farrell at 7/2.

And Irish company Boyle Sports have Jones as a clear market leader at 13/8.
So - a few delusional Welshmen and some bookies trying to drum up business 10 months out from the tour actually happening. Not exactly compelling is it?
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To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
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TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
We know from past experience that any attempt at picking a squad this far out is an exercise in futility. Injuries and changes in form will have a big impact over the next 10 months.
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Chrysoprase wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:16 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
We know from past experience that any attempt at picking a squad this far out is an exercise in futility. Injuries and changes in form will have a big impact over the next 10 months.
Of course, merely a contribution on the topic of writing him off for consideration at this stage.
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TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:44 am
Chrysoprase wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:16 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
We know from past experience that any attempt at picking a squad this far out is an exercise in futility. Injuries and changes in form will have a big impact over the next 10 months.
Of course, merely a contribution on the topic of writing him off for consideration at this stage.
Fair enough. He'd make a good tour manager
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The battle in the locks will be awesome.
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handyman wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:58 am The battle in the locks will be awesome.
I hope so. Need to fix RG, Lood and Eben first.
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Chrysoprase wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:16 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
We know from past experience that any attempt at picking a squad this far out is an exercise in futility. Injuries and changes in form will have a big impact over the next 10 months.
Yeah, but it's fun watching the Welsh lose their shit.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:39 am Yeah, but it's fun watching the Welsh lose their shit.
True, although they will get to experience that from the other side when no Scots are selected beyond the usual token.

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C69 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:32 am
Openside wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:43 pm
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:12 pm

How many?
Rather than anecdotes
0 the point being itisnt a pre-requisite :bimbo:
Not a prerequisite but very desirable to have an experienced captain in charge.
For the record I don't think AWJ will even tour.
He will be old broken by then probably.
I agree AWJ is awesome, however his best days are however behind him.
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:39 am
Chrysoprase wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:16 am
TheNatalShark wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am To be fair, after the six months of cobweb dusting his form might pick up. Will be interesting to see how on form players in March will be doing in a couple of months.
We know from past experience that any attempt at picking a squad this far out is an exercise in futility. Injuries and changes in form will have a big impact over the next 10 months.
Yeah, but it's fun watching the Welsh lose their shit.
Recent history has shown its the Irish who have major meltdown's through over-inflating their players' abilities, and the Scots who go into depression. The English keep a stiff upper lip, and the Welsh produce the best stuff. Give or take.
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Openside wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:35 pm
C69 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:32 am
Openside wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:43 pm

0 the point being itisnt a pre-requisite :bimbo:
Not a prerequisite but very desirable to have an experienced captain in charge.
For the record I don't think AWJ will even tour.
He will be old broken by then probably.
I agree AWJ is awesome, however his best days are however behind him.
Too many howevers there.
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I wouldn't argue if he was guaranteed to play. Top player, great leader and he's got the experience but he's 5th or 6th choice second row now though imo.
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LandOTurk wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:38 am
Openside wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:35 pm
C69 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:32 am
Not a prerequisite but very desirable to have an experienced captain in charge.
For the record I don't think AWJ will even tour.
He will be old broken by then probably.
I agree AWJ is awesome, however his best days are however behind him.
Too many howevers there.
However many howevers there was supposed to be there, two is just too many.
One however however would have been just nice.
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LandOTurk wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:38 am
Openside wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:35 pm
C69 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:32 am
Not a prerequisite but very desirable to have an experienced captain in charge.
For the record I don't think AWJ will even tour.
He will be old broken by then probably.
I agree AWJ is awesome, however his best days are however behind him.
Too many howevers there.
However, however you decide to put it you are correct.
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