2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup
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Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly
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Yeah cannot break tackles like he used to which leaves him very exposed given his lack of ball skills. Would be ballsy but Borthwick shouldn’t pick himsockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:38 pmCan't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly
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Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
That's because it's not a red.
Almost as desperate as the TMO to give the red
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URC teams look in a different league.
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FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?
There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
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Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?
There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
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All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pmAh cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?
There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
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Neither game worth watching really
*does not turn off tv*
*does not turn off tv*
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That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.
That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.
I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pmAll I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pmAh cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?
There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.
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Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm Neither game worth watching really
*does not turn off tv*
I know what you mean. It's the next pair of games I think will force me to do some work
$harks backline is clueless on attack.
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I think we just saw there, in that last bit of play, what JOD was trying to. Munster like to have the 2nd guy come in very upright to stop the offload, & rip the ball; the problem is if they get the timing wrong, you can get the kind of contact that happened.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:56 pm That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.
I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pmAll I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.
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Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pmIt should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.
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A bonus point win is all we need. Should qualify then for last 16OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:03 pmHope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pmIt should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.
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Remember Sharks sent a B team to the URC