2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

[fishfoodie]

Jamie Osborne finally puts a foot wrong in giving away a penalty, he looks the business for a just-turned 21 year old.

It was always expected of him, from how good he was at schools level; but being behind Henshaw was always a bit of an issue

[ASMO]

Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.

[Tichtheid]

Some of the the attacking from Leinster was terrific, trying to pick who gets the pass is like trying to follow the ball under three cups from a sea - front magician

[SaintK]

Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.

It’ll need a very good team to be them in this competition though

[Sards]

Cmaan Sharks

[Oxbow]

Not looking forward to the Saints game

[Paddington Bear]

Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly

Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.

Yeah cannot break tackles like he used to which leaves him very exposed given his lack of ball skills. Would be ballsy but Borthwick shouldn’t pick him

[SaintK]

....and next lambs to the slaughter. Saints at Thomond Park

[Oxbow]

We already look shit, that's some feat after a couple of minutes.

[fishfoodie]

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

[Oxbow]

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

That's because it's not a red.

[SaintK]

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

Almost as desperate as the TMO to give the red

[Paddington Bear]

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

That's because it's not a red.

This

[Sards]

You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge

[OomStruisbaai]

URC teams look in a different league.

[sockwithaticket]

You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge

Give me shite British winter conditions over that any day.

[Tichtheid]

That's bad from O'Donoghue

[Oxbow]

Any Irish screaming for a red card for that one?

[ASMO]

That deserves a long ban, that was absolutely deliberate, dirty cunt.

[sockwithaticket]

That's bad from O'Donoghue

It's about as straightforward as can be. Shouldn't be any mitigation - always high, leading with the shoulder and so not making a legal tackle in the first place.

[fishfoodie]

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

[Sards]

2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line

[sockwithaticket]

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

[fishfoodie]

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14

[OomStruisbaai]

2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line

Sharks playing against France blind school.

[Paddington Bear]

Neither game worth watching really


*does not turn off tv*

[Sards]

Thomas scrumming the captain out of the game leads to a 3rd Sharks try

[sockwithaticket]

That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14

I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.

[fishfoodie]

Neither game worth watching really


*does not turn off tv*

I know what you mean. It's the next pair of games I think will force me to do some work

[Sards]

Thomas having a blinder

[Chilli]

2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line

Sharks playing against France blind school.

$harks backline is clueless on attack.

[fishfoodie]

That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14

I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.

I think we just saw there, in that last bit of play, what JOD was trying to. Munster like to have the 2nd guy come in very upright to stop the offload, & rip the ball; the problem is if they get the timing wrong, you can get the kind of contact that happened.

[OomStruisbaai]

Cmaan Sharks

It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

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Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+

[Oxbow]

Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?

[SaintK]

Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?

Quite!!!!

[Sards]

Cmaan Sharks

It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

]

Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+

A bonus point win is all we need. Should qualify then for last 16
Remember Sharks sent a B team to the URC

[OomStruisbaai]

It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

]

Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+

A bonus point win is all we need. Should qualify then for last 16
Remember Sharks sent a B team to the URC

Sharks have already qualified. 7 points is enough.

I want them to bliksem them hard. Sending C teams deserve it.

[ASMO]

Every time i see a replay of the JOD assault (i use the word advisedly) the worse it looks. He knew exactly what he was doing, that was clearly a deliberate shot to the head. He has his eyes locked on Ribbans head and drove that shoulder into his head with force, he could have easily pulled out of that, there was plenty of time to pull out, but he chose not to.

[Sards]

I don't know how you arrived at C team. May as well say all teams sending a second squad are sending B teams. Squad rotation between tournaments.

[Chilli]

Every time i see a replay of the JOD assault (i use the word advisedly) the worse it looks. He knew exactly what he was doing, that was clearly a deliberate shot to the head. He has his eyes locked on Ribbans head and drove that shoulder into his head with force, he could have easily pulled out of that, there was plenty of time to pull out, but he chose not to.

Is there a video of the incident?