2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

Where goats go to escape
User avatar
Tichtheid
Posts: 9402
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am

Jamie Osborne finally puts a foot wrong in giving away a penalty, he looks the business for a just-turned 21 year old.
sockwithaticket
Posts: 8665
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly
Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.
User avatar
Tichtheid
Posts: 9402
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am

Leinster are so good at everything, even being the cute hooers
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:36 pm Jamie Osborne finally puts a foot wrong in giving away a penalty, he looks the business for a just-turned 21 year old.
It was always expected of him, from how good he was at schools level; but being behind Henshaw was always a bit of an issue
User avatar
ASMO
Posts: 5423
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:08 pm

Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.
User avatar
Tichtheid
Posts: 9402
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am

Some of the the attacking from Leinster was terrific, trying to pick who gets the pass is like trying to follow the ball under three cups from a sea - front magician
User avatar
SaintK
Posts: 6626
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:49 am
Location: Over there somewhere

ASMO wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:56 pm Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.
It’ll need a very good team to be them in this competition though
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

Cmaan Sharks
Oxbow
Posts: 1230
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:45 pm

Not looking forward to the Saints game :|
User avatar
Paddington Bear
Posts: 5963
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:29 pm
Location: Hertfordshire

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:38 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly
Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.
Yeah cannot break tackles like he used to which leaves him very exposed given his lack of ball skills. Would be ballsy but Borthwick shouldn’t pick him
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
User avatar
SaintK
Posts: 6626
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:49 am
Location: Over there somewhere

....and next lambs to the slaughter. Saints at Thomond Park
Oxbow
Posts: 1230
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:45 pm

We already look shit, that's some feat after a couple of minutes.
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
Oxbow
Posts: 1230
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:45 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
That's because it's not a red.
User avatar
SaintK
Posts: 6626
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:49 am
Location: Over there somewhere

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
Almost as desperate as the TMO to give the red
User avatar
Paddington Bear
Posts: 5963
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:29 pm
Location: Hertfordshire

Oxbow wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
That's because it's not a red.
This
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge
User avatar
OomStruisbaai
Posts: 15464
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:38 pm
Location: Longest beach in SH

URC teams look in a different league.
sockwithaticket
Posts: 8665
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am

Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:36 pm You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge
:thumbdown:

Give me shite British winter conditions over that any day.
User avatar
Tichtheid
Posts: 9402
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am

That's bad from O'Donoghue
Oxbow
Posts: 1230
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:45 pm

Any Irish screaming for a red card for that one?
User avatar
ASMO
Posts: 5423
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:08 pm

That deserves a long ban, that was absolutely deliberate, dirty cunt.
sockwithaticket
Posts: 8665
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:44 pm That's bad from O'Donoghue
It's about as straightforward as can be. Shouldn't be any mitigation - always high, leading with the shoulder and so not making a legal tackle in the first place.
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line
sockwithaticket
Posts: 8665
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
Last edited by fishfoodie on Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
OomStruisbaai
Posts: 15464
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:38 pm
Location: Longest beach in SH

Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:47 pm 2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line
Sharks playing against France blind school.
User avatar
Paddington Bear
Posts: 5963
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:29 pm
Location: Hertfordshire

Neither game worth watching really


*does not turn off tv*
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

Thomas scrumming the captain out of the game leads to a 3rd Sharks try
sockwithaticket
Posts: 8665
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am

That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm Neither game worth watching really


*does not turn off tv*
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know what you mean. It's the next pair of games I think will force me to do some work
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

Thomas having a blinder
User avatar
Chilli
Posts: 5652
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:15 pm
Location: In Die Baai in.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:51 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:47 pm 2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line
Sharks playing against France blind school.
$harks backline is clueless on attack.
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8223
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:56 pm That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.
I think we just saw there, in that last bit of play, what JOD was trying to. Munster like to have the 2nd guy come in very upright to stop the offload, & rip the ball; the problem is if they get the timing wrong, you can get the kind of contact that happened.
User avatar
Marylandolorian
Posts: 1249
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:47 pm
Location: Amerikanuak

Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks
It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

Image]
User avatar
OomStruisbaai
Posts: 15464
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:38 pm
Location: Longest beach in SH

Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks
It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

Image]
Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+
Oxbow
Posts: 1230
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:45 pm

Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?
User avatar
SaintK
Posts: 6626
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:49 am
Location: Over there somewhere

Oxbow wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:04 pm Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?
Quite!!!!
User avatar
Sards
Posts: 9291
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:41 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:03 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks
It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

Image]
Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+
A bonus point win is all we need. Should qualify then for last 16
Remember Sharks sent a B team to the URC
Post Reply