2023 U20 world cup l'officielle

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:41 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:11 pm Baby Boks getting outmuscled by Italy, beaten at their own game. Relentless mauling by the Italians. It's beautiful.
Surely. Italy deserves the win.
Wrong captain. Number 6 was a passenger
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Sards wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:42 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:41 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:11 pm Baby Boks getting outmuscled by Italy, beaten at their own game. Relentless mauling by the Italians. It's beautiful.
Surely. Italy deserves the win.
Wrong captain. Number 6 was a passenger
To many $hark$ laaities.

This Bokkie team is kak, saw that against Georgia. The backs got us out of jail. Julius has been great. Still u19. Hope the $hark$ don't fuck his rugby up.
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Cleaves showing there why you chase every kick even if it looks covered.
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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:52 pm Meanwhile, Georgia are 20-0 up against Argentina. Gq


roup C is mental but there's a good chance that the winner of Italy - Georgia will go into the SF.
Looking at the log I think the Bokkies have the best chance. The play last and will know exactly what's needed. But then the likes of France and Ireland will put 40 on them
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:14 pm
Sards wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:42 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:41 pm

Surely. Italy deserves the win.
Wrong captain. Number 6 was a passenger
To many $hark$ laaities.

This Bokkie team is kak, saw that against Georgia. The backs got us out of jail. Julius has been great. Still u19. Hope the $hark$ don't fuck his rugby up.
Saw now. Bulls, struggle in the mud.
BULLS DOMINATE MATCH 23

11 will do duty against Italy

11 Blue Bulls players, 9 in the starting XV and 2 on the bench will do duty for the Junior Springboks in their 2nd pool match at the 2023 World Rugby u.20 Championships.

The Junior Boks play Italy on Thursday at Paarl Gymnasium.
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Been pretty easy for England in the second half. Set piece dominance plus Fiji forcing things and getting further behind on the scoreboard.

Nye Thomas looks like he'll continue the grand tradition of England U20s pulling on the Welsh shirt in the future, provided the WRU don't completely implode Welsh Rugby.
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Kiwias wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:04 pm
Grandpa wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm Why do NZ look like an under 14s team playing adults? What has happened to their genetics in the last 5 years?
They heard you and suddenly we see a burst of direct and hard running by the piggies.

Only for Tuilagi to repay them with a massive run
I wonder if they would perform better in dry conditions? Hard to know if the weather prevented a bigger hiding or not?
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Grandpa wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:23 pm
Kiwias wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:04 pm
Grandpa wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:35 pm Why do NZ look like an under 14s team playing adults? What has happened to their genetics in the last 5 years?
They heard you and suddenly we see a burst of direct and hard running by the piggies.

Only for Tuilagi to repay them with a massive run
I wonder if they would perform better in dry conditions? Hard to know if the weather prevented a bigger hiding or not?
Would have been a bit more loose but the french backs are not slow or bad either.

One thing people are missing about that team is how much top level rugby they play. Top 14 Pro D2 and Nationale are all fully pro leagues with limitations on how many non locally trained players can play.

That is 3 pro divisions to feed and now most of the starting 15 in all these teams has to be french trained.

The wheel is in motion for strong French U20 on a regular basis
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laurent wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:52 pm
Grandpa wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:23 pm
Kiwias wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:04 pm

They heard you and suddenly we see a burst of direct and hard running by the piggies.

Only for Tuilagi to repay them with a massive run
I wonder if they would perform better in dry conditions? Hard to know if the weather prevented a bigger hiding or not?
Would have been a bit more loose but the french backs are not slow or bad either.

One thing people are missing about that team is how much top level rugby they play. Top 14 Pro D2 and Nationale are all fully pro leagues with limitations on how many non locally trained players can play.

That is 3 pro divisions to feed and now most of the starting 15 in all these teams has to be french trained.

The wheel is in motion for strong French U20 on a regular basis
NZ Rugby has to start taking U20 seriously or they'll be left behind at senior level as well... France were very impressive...
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So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
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snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am
snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
Nice idea but Andy Timo is probably quicker than any of the NZ backs and the Fre fwds' handling better than anything by the NZ, SA or Aus backlines.

As Laurent has pointed out, nearly all the Fre lads are already playing pro rugby. A result of the JIFF rules culling the number of foreign players in club rugby. If it had been dry, Fra would have put 50 on that NZ team.
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am
snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
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:thumbup:

The ex and I watched it in Auckland when it first came out...almost 30 years ago.
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Such an awful subject matter.. but what a brilliant film that was... and very apt YMX, very apt... :lol:
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England, France, Italy, Argentina played yearly in our U18 International Series against our SA schoolboy team just after Craven Week around August /Sept at Paarl Gimnasium

https://supersport.com/rugby/general/ne ... eries-live
South Africa will feature two teams in the six-match series, with all matches taking place at Paarl Gymnasium from 19 – 27 August.
So they are used to the conditions and fields, ext

We played last year in the NH summer series and won it easily. We played actual u20s while the NH teams used the tournament to prepare their for the 6 nations and current crop of u20s.

The NH have and excellent tried and tested 6 nations tournament. Their player combinations and experience is well above the SH teams.

So they are just much better prepared compare to the SH teams.
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am
snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
Mud. It's why Stormers never got going against Munster in the final and lost.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:38 am
Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am
snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
Mud. It's why Stormers never got going against Munster in the final and lost.
Paul Roos vs Sacs at Makotter two weeks ago

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No wonder we vokken lost.

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:06 am England, France, Italy, Argentina played yearly in our U18 International Series against our SA schoolboy team just after Craven Week around August /Sept at Paarl Gimnasium

https://supersport.com/rugby/general/ne ... eries-live
South Africa will feature two teams in the six-match series, with all matches taking place at Paarl Gymnasium from 19 – 27 August.
So they are used to the conditions and fields, ext

We played last year in the NH summer series and won it easily. We played actual u20s while the NH teams used the tournament to prepare their for the 6 nations and current crop of u20s.

The NH have and excellent tried and tested 6 nations tournament. Their player combinations and experience is well above the SH teams.

So they are just much better prepared compare to the SH teams.
Clear enough. Thanks
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assfly wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:44 am No wonder we vokken lost.

I normally hate the going to war, and fuck them up speeches (especially since I play at about the lowest level there is, and pretty much everyone needs to go to work on Monday, back to a family after etc), but that speech was pretty inspirational. Not bollocks about killing the oppo etc, but fighting together as a family, to earn and demand respect. Fantastic speech.
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Raggs wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:08 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:44 am No wonder we vokken lost.

I normally hate the going to war, and fuck them up speeches (especially since I play at about the lowest level there is, and pretty much everyone needs to go to work on Monday, back to a family after etc), but that speech was pretty inspirational. Not bollocks about killing the oppo etc, but fighting together as a family, to earn and demand respect. Fantastic speech.
Our lot missed the Corne Krige speech from Paarl Boishaai.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:58 am
Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am
snaporaz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:28 am So:

Ireland - Australia 30 - 10
France - New Zealand 35 - 14
Italy -South Africa 34 - 26
Georgia - Argentina 20 - 0

What's going on in the SH ?
Too much speed work, not enough weights?
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Assume that's from Lee Tamahora's brilliant Once Were Warriors?
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:16 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:58 am
Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:45 am

Too much speed work, not enough weights?
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Assume that's from Lee Tamahora's brilliant Once Were Warriors?
Yep.
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Another young Stormers mid fielder coming through. Klei trapper.

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Gumboot wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:46 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:16 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:58 am

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Assume that's from Lee Tamahora's brilliant Once Were Warriors?
Yep.
Must watch that again.
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Great summer weather since yesterday and no rain expect until next weekend.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:39 am Another young Stormers mid fielder coming through. Klei trapper.

A possible future FB or wing, but not a centre
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He played CC for WP in the midfield. Schooled at Stellenberg like Angelo Davids.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:39 am Another young Stormers mid fielder coming through. Klei trapper.

I'd love to see more teams playing smaller, more agile guys at inside centre who often end up on the wing. I remember one year USA U20 had someone in that shirt who must have been a football running back. 5'9" ish, probably 200lbs or thereabouts, incredibly agile and caused a lot of problems. Maybe a bit too 'raw' to progress, but he got me thinking about the damage/options such a player can create, especially when faced with rushing defenders at risk of being stepped.

Masterji, that's definitely the attitude at present, but it's not like there haven't been 'small' 12s ... Matt Giteau, Sam Tuitupou, Kyle Eastmond.
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Niegs wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:18 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:39 am Another young Stormers mid fielder coming through. Klei trapper.

I'd love to see more teams playing smaller, more agile guys at inside centre who often end up on the wing. I remember one year USA U20 had someone in that shirt who must have been a football running back. 5'9" ish, probably 200lbs or thereabouts, incredibly agile and caused a lot of problems. Maybe a bit too 'raw' to progress, but he got me thinking about the damage/options such a player can create, especially when faced with rushing defenders at risk of being stepped.

Masterji, that's definitely the attitude at present, but it's not like there haven't been 'small' 12s ... Matt Giteau, Sam Tuitupou, Kyle Eastmond.
The Springbok coaches use your straight running, dumb 12s over many years.

Myself like the flare type of 12, who can also do 10 duties like Willemse/ Sasha MG. This kid will fit right in.
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Greig Oliver died in a paragliding accident in SA today. His son was named on the bench for the Fiji game tomorrow.
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RIP to the family. My sister's kid is an instructor in paragliding. I saw them often at Sir Lowry and Franshoek passes. He had an accident in Hermanus and struggled for years to recover.

Great day of u20 rugby lining up on a nice summer day. We have our provincial Craven Week also starting at 8, so a day full of youth rugby.
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This is not going well :cry:
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sturginho wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:30 am This is not going well :cry:
Still all to play for and they'll have a one-man advantage for the first 8 minutes of the half. That Georgia team are no mugs. You'd think Italy will need a BP win to get into the SF, though.
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Lovely running rugby by the Georgians, although their 14 is a bit of a numptie.

25-17 to Georgia with 17 minutes to play and Italy under the cosh.
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well bollocks
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Georgia doing us a big favor .
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look like they just won the WC! :clap:
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I missed the start; did the England lads to a little Haka at the start, after coming out in that strip ?
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