President Trump and US politics catchall

[fishfoodie]

A lot of successful business people are quite intellectually dim.

They just need to be street smart to get the actual clever people to do the work for them.

The morality of a sewer rat helps too.

[Flockwitt]

A lot of successful business people are quite intellectually dim.

They just need to be street smart to get the actual clever people to do the work for them.

The morality of a sewer rat helps too.

All of that plus being a good salesman. A salesman's skills are quite different from pure intellect and often more financially rewarding, especially when coupled with a base cunning instinct and absence of morals of course.

[Niegs]

A lot of successful business people are quite intellectually dim.

They just need to be street smart to get the actual clever people to do the work for them.

The morality of a sewer rat helps too.

All of that plus being a good salesman. A salesman's skills are quite different from pure intellect and often more financially rewarding, especially when coupled with a base cunning instinct and absence of morals of course.

The notion of a dim business/salesman reminded me of Herb Tarlek from WKRP in Cincinnati.

[dpedin]

I have met lots of guys who are intellectually challenged but can make money from their chosen career by knowing an awful lot about very little. Trump is no more than a second hand car dealer or a dodgy builder who ignores the law in order to make cash, loads of cash. Trumps biggest asset was the cash he inherited from his father, he has subsequently had 6 or 7 businesses that have gone bankrupt, he lost money owning casinos and he would today be wealthier if he had just invested the money he inherited in safe investment accounts etc. His whole 'success', for that read business failure, has been built on the back of extremely dodgy links with the mafia and organised crime and by employing folk who were happy to bend/break the rules ie tax, in order to make money. Many of his businesses have been little more than fronts for money laundering. There Is little doubt he has been supported politically by some very dark money probably Russian and/or Middle East in origin. He is in effect the ultimate Snake Oil Salesman, he has played the role almost perfectly but more as a puppet than the mastermind.

|Academically there are strong rumours that Trump bribed a bright kid to sit his entrance exams for University and it is well known that in the 60s and 70s rich parents could influence entry into University and indeed in exam results. Trump has constantly threatened his Alma Mater with being sued should they release any info about his time there including what grades he got. There is little in the public domain about his time at university. Of course Trumps own university collapsed in a mire of debt and court cases, quelle surprise!

Having said all this I still believe a good measure of assessing someones intellectual ability is their use of language and in particular their use of vocabulary and things like sentence construction and ability to explain difficult concepts or ideas using simple language, etc. From all the evidence I have seen and heard then my conclusion is still that Trump has a very limited intellectual capacity and this became a huge risk when he faced by complex multi factorial economic, social or political problems. To put it another way the man is a moron and shouldn't be anywhere near high office, or indeed any office!

[David in Gwent]

When the Democrats start a hot war with Russia for the sole reason of keeping hold of their power, I hope you people start to come to your senses.

At this stage, you're all part of the establishment.

[Gumboot]

Mitch McConnell has frozen at another press conference. Second time in a month. He's unfit for office, I reckon.

[fishfoodie]

Rudys utterly fucked now !

Summary judgement issued in the defamation case brought by the two Georgia Election workers, in large part because he wouldn't comply with the discovery part of the pre-trial, so the Judge just got fed up, & has made a summary judgement that the defamation is proven, & now there'll be a small civil trail, where the only thing the jury has to decide upon is damages; & given the awful impact of the defamation of his lies upon these poor women, will be massive !

He's trying to sell his apartment for $6.5 million, & if that covers the damages in this case, I will be astonished, & appalled

[Niegs]

Is it any surprise another slick grifter is next in polling after Trump?

[sefton]

When the Democrats start a hot war with Russia for the sole reason of keeping hold of their power, I hope you people start to come to your senses.

At this stage, you're all part of the establishment.

Fruitloop.

[Kiwias]

There idiots should remember that there is always a tape.

[Sinkers]

Very shouty!!!

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Rudys utterly fucked now !

Summary judgement issued in the defamation case brought by the two Georgia Election workers, in large part because he wouldn't comply with the discovery part of the pre-trial, so the Judge just got fed up, & has made a summary judgement that the defamation is proven, & now there'll be a small civil trail, where the only thing the jury has to decide upon is damages; & given the awful impact of the defamation of his lies upon these poor women, will be massive !

He's trying to sell his apartment for $6.5 million, & if that covers the damages in this case, I will be astonished, & appalled

Tbh if both claimants got $3.25 million I wouldn't be appalled. I wouldn't be surprised if it went much higher, but there are some lunatic awards made in the US justice system, most people it seems can't get close to justice, and then some rare instances return vast claims for damages.

One assumes Giuliani failed to comply with discovery as he made the assessment his exposure here is less than complying and then having that evidence used against him in other cases by other prosecutors. Which is sort of an interesting ethical challenge for a legal system looking case by case, even if one fails to give a shit it happens in this instance to be screwing over Rudy

[TB63]

Mitch McConnell has frozen at another press conference. Second time in a month. He's unfit for office, I reckon.

REBOOT!!..

[Biffer]

I have met lots of guys who are intellectually challenged but can make money from their chosen career by knowing an awful lot about very little. Trump is no more than a second hand car dealer or a dodgy builder who ignores the law in order to make cash, loads of cash. Trumps biggest asset was the cash he inherited from his father, he has subsequently had 6 or 7 businesses that have gone bankrupt, he lost money owning casinos and he would today be wealthier if he had just invested the money he inherited in safe investment accounts etc. His whole 'success', for that read business failure, has been built on the back of extremely dodgy links with the mafia and organised crime and by employing folk who were happy to bend/break the rules ie tax, in order to make money. Many of his businesses have been little more than fronts for money laundering. There Is little doubt he has been supported politically by some very dark money probably Russian and/or Middle East in origin. He is in effect the ultimate Snake Oil Salesman, he has played the role almost perfectly but more as a puppet than the mastermind.

|Academically there are strong rumours that Trump bribed a bright kid to sit his entrance exams for University and it is well known that in the 60s and 70s rich parents could influence entry into University and indeed in exam results. Trump has constantly threatened his Alma Mater with being sued should they release any info about his time there including what grades he got. There is little in the public domain about his time at university. Of course Trumps own university collapsed in a mire of debt and court cases, quelle surprise!

Having said all this I still believe a good measure of assessing someones intellectual ability is their use of language and in particular their use of vocabulary and things like sentence construction and ability to explain difficult concepts or ideas using simple language, etc. From all the evidence I have seen and heard then my conclusion is still that Trump has a very limited intellectual capacity and this became a huge risk when he faced by complex multi factorial economic, social or political problems. To put it another way the man is a moron and shouldn't be anywhere near high office, or indeed any office!

Trump would have been richer if he just put his inheritance in the S&P500

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... 95369f1c48

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Trump would have been richer if he just put his inheritance in the S&P500

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... 95369f1c48

Accepting the risk of repetition it rather sounds like it wasn't even just his inheritance, but he'd rather stolen a sizeable amount from younger family members he was supposedly acting on behalf of.

[dpedin]

When the Democrats start a hot war with Russia for the sole reason of keeping hold of their power, I hope you people start to come to your senses.

At this stage, you're all part of the establishment.

Fruitloop.

That's a compliment!

[dpedin]

Mitch McConnell has frozen at another press conference. Second time in a month. He's unfit for office, I reckon.

REBOOT!!..

He is not a well man, sounds and looks like another TIA and the next episode could be a full on stroke. He, or rather his handlers, need to retire him immediately for his own good. I suspect however they are currently exploring the use of AI and robotics to rebuild him!

[JM2K6]

All of that plus being a good salesman. A salesman's skills are quite different from pure intellect and often more financially rewarding, especially when coupled with a base cunning instinct and absence of morals of course.

Yeah, cunning is the word.

Having said all this I still believe a good measure of assessing someones intellectual ability is their use of language and in particular their use of vocabulary and things like sentence construction and ability to explain difficult concepts or ideas using simple language, etc. From all the evidence I have seen and heard then my conclusion is still that Trump has a very limited intellectual capacity and this became a huge risk when he faced by complex multi factorial economic, social or political problems. To put it another way the man is a moron and shouldn't be anywhere near high office, or indeed any office!

I don't agree with this. Language and vocabulary are frequently indicators of education rather than intelligence. You can have people with great vocabulary who sound smart but aren't. You can have people with limited vocabulary who sound dim as a result but aren't. It's about how people think and understand, far more than how they sound and communicate. I know plenty of poor communicators who are incredibly clever.

[Biffer]

Mitch McConnell has frozen at another press conference. Second time in a month. He's unfit for office, I reckon.

REBOOT!!..

He is not a well man, sounds and looks like another TIA and the next episode could be a full on stroke. He, or rather his handlers, need to retire him immediately for his own good. I suspect however they are currently exploring the use of AI and robotics to rebuild him!

Yeah, and if he's had two during public press conferences, how many others has he had?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

When the Democrats start a hot war with Russia for the sole reason of keeping hold of their power, I hope you people start to come to your senses.

At this stage, you're all part of the establishment.

Fruitloop.

That's a compliment!

Would Fruitloops be one of those ultra processed breakfast cereals that come with added cancer?

[dpedin]

All of that plus being a good salesman. A salesman's skills are quite different from pure intellect and often more financially rewarding, especially when coupled with a base cunning instinct and absence of morals of course.

Yeah, cunning is the word.

Having said all this I still believe a good measure of assessing someones intellectual ability is their use of language and in particular their use of vocabulary and things like sentence construction and ability to explain difficult concepts or ideas using simple language, etc. From all the evidence I have seen and heard then my conclusion is still that Trump has a very limited intellectual capacity and this became a huge risk when he faced by complex multi factorial economic, social or political problems. To put it another way the man is a moron and shouldn't be anywhere near high office, or indeed any office!

I don't agree with this. Language and vocabulary are frequently indicators of education rather than intelligence. You can have people with great vocabulary who sound smart but aren't. You can have people with limited vocabulary who sound dim as a result but aren't. It's about how people think and understand, far more than how they sound and communicate. I know plenty of poor communicators who are incredibly clever.

I suppose I over generalised above and there are obviously lots of factors that determine range of vocabulary and use of language, not least education, social class, etc. However it is not about communication - that is a slightly different issue and I would concede that Trump is a very good communicator given his target audience. The use of language - vocabulary, sentence construction, verbal reasoning, ability to use language to communicate complex ideas, etc. is widely recognised as a very good measure of wider intelligence ie how people think and understand issues. For example verbal reasoning is widely used in assessment and development context in industry. One caveat is you need to use it when assessing ability within a specific cohort or similar group of people, the benchmark 'score' would be different depending upon the cohort. Given the cohort Trump belonged to - high office and world leaders - he would have been in the bottom percentile!

I would also add that some folk may struggle with the use of language or written language for a range of reasons, I had one boss who I am convinced was dyslexic but he never admitted it. However they may be excellent with numbers and the ability to resolve complex numerical issues. However I saw little evidence that Trump was any better with numbers than he was with language!

[robmatic]

I don't agree with this. Language and vocabulary are frequently indicators of education rather than intelligence. You can have people with great vocabulary who sound smart but aren't. You can have people with limited vocabulary who sound dim as a result but aren't. It's about how people think and understand, far more than how they sound and communicate. I know plenty of poor communicators who are incredibly clever.

Trump is an educated man. He went to private schools and an Ivy League university - he had ample opportunity to develop his language and vocabulary in those environments.

If you watch old interviews with Trump he sounds much more articulate than he does now.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Trump is excellent with numbers, he's grasped a variety of concepts with 'me want more money', 'me want tallest building', 'me want younger wife', 'me want number 1 daughter', so at any rate 'a lot of people say'

[fishfoodie]

Rudys utterly fucked now !

Summary judgement issued in the defamation case brought by the two Georgia Election workers, in large part because he wouldn't comply with the discovery part of the pre-trial, so the Judge just got fed up, & has made a summary judgement that the defamation is proven, & now there'll be a small civil trail, where the only thing the jury has to decide upon is damages; & given the awful impact of the defamation of his lies upon these poor women, will be massive !

He's trying to sell his apartment for $6.5 million, & if that covers the damages in this case, I will be astonished, & appalled

Tbh if both claimants got $3.25 million I wouldn't be appalled. I wouldn't be surprised if it went much higher, but there are some lunatic awards made in the US justice system, most people it seems can't get close to justice, and then some rare instances return vast claims for damages.

One assumes Giuliani failed to comply with discovery as he made the assessment his exposure here is less than complying and then having that evidence used against him in other cases by other prosecutors. Which is sort of an interesting ethical challenge for a legal system looking case by case, even if one fails to give a shit it happens in this instance to be screwing over Rudy

He didn't comply because he saw what happened when Alex Jones, & Faux News complied in their Civil lawsuits !

If this were criminal charges, the subpoena would be more explicit in what the prosecutors could access; it'd be; communications between the defendant & person A, which related to X; while in this case, because it was a defamation case, it was pretty much all his communications during the relevant time period, because the victims needed to demonstrate that he knew the election claims were a crock of shit, & he still repeated them.

As you say though; once the messages are on the court record, they can be used in other cases, which makes you wonder why the Orange traitor isn't paying for Rudy's legal defence, as ultimately he'd also be paying for his own !

[David in Gwent]

Your guy:





A new one, Biden signing off on a Funding proposal for a new Covid vaccine "that works"

[Insane_Homer]

Proud Boys Joe Biggs leader gets 17 years for Jan 6

[Gumboot]

Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell is medically cleared to continue his schedule, the US Capitol physician said Thursday, after he froze for the second time in as many months in public.

The statement comes as McConnell moved behind the scenes to reassure his allies and donors he can do his job – even as questions persist over how long the 81-year-old Kentuckian will stay as Republican leader.

“I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team. After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned,” Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending doctor for the Capitol, said in a statement released through McConnell’s office.

Yeah, nah. I'd definitely be after a second opinion, Mitch.

The old codger looks like he's struggling just to stay vertical these days.

[Hal Jordan]

Proud Boys Joe Biggs leader gets 17 years for Jan 6

Cried as he was sentenced.

[Sinkers]

Tarrio’s sentencing delayed. And they were going for something like 33yrs for him I think.

[dpedin]

Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell is medically cleared to continue his schedule, the US Capitol physician said Thursday, after he froze for the second time in as many months in public.

The statement comes as McConnell moved behind the scenes to reassure his allies and donors he can do his job – even as questions persist over how long the 81-year-old Kentuckian will stay as Republican leader.

“I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team. After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned,” Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending doctor for the Capitol, said in a statement released through McConnell’s office.

Yeah, nah. I'd definitely be after a second opinion, Mitch.

The old codger looks like he's struggling just to stay vertical these days.

If you need to have a 'neurological team' then things ain't going well! At least the reference to neurology gives everyone a clear idea of the cause of his freezing problems. Retire the old fucker!

[Kiwias]

Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell is medically cleared to continue his schedule, the US Capitol physician said Thursday, after he froze for the second time in as many months in public.

The statement comes as McConnell moved behind the scenes to reassure his allies and donors he can do his job – even as questions persist over how long the 81-year-old Kentuckian will stay as Republican leader.

“I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team. After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned,” Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending doctor for the Capitol, said in a statement released through McConnell’s office.

Yeah, nah. I'd definitely be after a second opinion, Mitch.

The old codger looks like he's struggling just to stay vertical these days.

If you need to have a 'neurological team' then things ain't going well! At least the reference to neurology gives everyone a clear idea of the cause of his freezing problems. Retire the old fucker!

Feinstein too!

[Insane_Homer]

I've renamed the shortcut to Excel on my PC to Mitch McConnell.

[fishfoodie]

I've renamed the shortcut to Excel on my PC to Mitch McConnell.

Will the News agencies superimpose a spinning hourglass on coverage of him now ?

[Uncle fester]

Tarrio gets 22 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... dApp_Other

What's striking is that they all seem so surprised at how this has turned out.

[fishfoodie]

Tarrio gets 22 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... dApp_Other

What's striking is that they all seem so surprised at how this has turned out.

It''s way beyond gaslighting on the, "Base", it's full on Hypnotoad !

These same morons have been conditioned by decades of sending their life savings to televangelists, & grifters like McConnell, & the orange Traitor is just the logical endpoint.

[Hal Jordan]

The Proud Boys used to say, fuck around and find out, well...

Can we have our black and yellow Fred Perrys back now?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Tarrio gets 22 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... dApp_Other

What's striking is that they all seem so surprised at how this has turned out.

It''s way beyond gaslighting on the, "Base", it's full on Hypnotoad !

These same morons have been conditioned by decades of sending their life savings to televangelists, & grifters like McConnell, & the orange Traitor is just the logical endpoint.

I think many would be concerned Trump is far from an endpoint

[dpedin]

Tarrio gets 22 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... dApp_Other

What's striking is that they all seem so surprised at how this has turned out.

It''s way beyond gaslighting on the, "Base", it's full on Hypnotoad !

These same morons have been conditioned by decades of sending their life savings to televangelists, & grifters like McConnell, & the orange Traitor is just the logical endpoint.

I think many would be concerned Trump is far from an endpoint

I share your concerns, the US is becoming a pot of bubbling shit where right wing extremism is being seen as the norm now and any attempt to bring a rational and caring approach to Gov is being shat on by the right wing grifters and nutters.

For example Biden has begun to tackle the price gouging by big Pharma companies with insulin capping the price at $35 for those on medicare via his Inflation Reduction Act. He is now moving onto another 10 costly drugs and will allow Medicare to renegotiate prices. The Republicans voted against this citing socialism or something no doubt fuelled by their big Pharma backers.

Gun control is another obvious issue. I used to go golfing with mates to SC every couple of years but stopped after the covid pandemic but also because of Trump. SC is a pretty right wing state and the change in atmosphere and increase in gun incidents over the 20 years we went there was enough to convince us not to go back.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It''s way beyond gaslighting on the, "Base", it's full on Hypnotoad !

These same morons have been conditioned by decades of sending their life savings to televangelists, & grifters like McConnell, & the orange Traitor is just the logical endpoint.

I think many would be concerned Trump is far from an endpoint

I share your concerns, the US is becoming a pot of bubbling shit where right wing extremism is being seen as the norm now and any attempt to bring a rational and caring approach to Gov is being shat on by the right wing grifters and nutters.

For example Biden has begun to tackle the price gouging by big Pharma companies with insulin capping the price at $35 for those on medicare via his Inflation Reduction Act. He is now moving onto another 10 costly drugs and will allow Medicare to renegotiate prices. The Republicans voted against this citing socialism or something no doubt fuelled by their big Pharma backers.

Gun control is another obvious issue. I used to go golfing with mates to SC every couple of years but stopped after the covid pandemic but also because of Trump. SC is a pretty right wing state and the change in atmosphere and increase in gun incidents over the 20 years we went there was enough to convince us not to go back.

I was in NC a few years back on holiday, awesome place and great people providing you talk beaches, food, drink and the like, don't even think unless you know it's safe to venture into politics, religion/science, guns, the environment.

[David in Gwent]

What actions are being taken to control the rise of white supremacy in the LatinX communities?