RWCR3 New Zealand vs Italy - Fri 29th - 20.00 BST

[Torquemada 1420]

FM. Just in from work.

So did NZ suddenly become the spiritual guardians again or are Italy back to being the turd on the sole of the 6N?

Some of A, a little bit of B

Heady cocktail.

[Slick]

Really didn’t want to go JMK here:

1) because we have been In similar situations

2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it

But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.

[sturginho]

Really didn’t want to go JMK here:

1) because we have been In similar situations

2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it

But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.

Dont worry about me mate I'm used to it by now (sadly)

I mean nemer is walking around completely gassed and he didn't even start the match, fat sack of shit that he is

[Tichtheid]

NZ will kick on now with DMac on the park

[Torquemada 1420]

Really didn’t want to go JMK here:

1) because we have been In similar situations

2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it

But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.

Mehh. None of us is responsible for his team's debacles or, in this case (from the mins I've seen), abject surrender.

[JM2K6]

Really didn’t want to go JMK here:

1) because we have been In similar situations

2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it

But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.

Anyone who takes criticism of the team's performance personally on a night like this is being very silly. I'm a Quins and England fan, I have plenty of expertise in gleefully mocking horrible performances by teams I'd really rather see play well.

Sturginho just bit on the "embarrassing the 6N" line, that's all.

[Paddington Bear]

This Italian team lack the excuse of being wank as well, they can and have player much much better than this

[PCPhil]

Are Italy actually running backwards in the scrums?

[Torquemada 1420]

Hah. I was at that game at Gerland the last time ABs were in Lyon.

The score?

France 3, ABs.......................... 47

[sturginho]

Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better

[Slick]

Really didn’t want to go JMK here:

1) because we have been In similar situations

2) Sturginho is a top bloke who doesn’t deserve it

But this is fucking pathetic from Italy, absolutely gutless shite from a 6N team.

Anyone who takes criticism of the team's performance personally on a night like this is being very silly. I'm a Quins and England fan, I have plenty of expertise in gleefully mocking horrible performances by teams I'd really rather see play well.

Sturginho just bit on the "embarrassing the 6N" line, that's all.

Sorry, not really having a go. Just know that whatever is said, you do take it a bit personally

[Torquemada 1420]

Jesus.

Throw in the towel FFS.

Oh wait. They already did.

[sturginho]

Ah Luca

[JM2K6]

Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better

This is one of those meltdown performances that suggests selection is irrelevant - something very fundamental went very very wrong somewhere. Preparation, scandal, a huge bust up... This sort of thing usually has a cause

[sockwithaticket]

This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...

[sturginho]

Nemer you fat piece of shit!

[C69]

Jebus

[PCPhil]

Seriously, Namibia would put up a better performance than this bunch of spackers.

[JM2K6]

All that aside, there isn't a team on the planet that would rack up this score in this situation. The All Blacks are built differently - even the current somewhat questionable team

[Torquemada 1420]

This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...

At least Namibia tried to tackle. There should be a stewards' enquiry.

[sturginho]

This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...

This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)

[Paddington Bear]

Ton seems more likely than not

[Tichtheid]

I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference

[JM2K6]

"Are you surprised by the margin of the difference between the two teams" great stuff there Ugo

[Slick]

Clearly it was worth leaving parisse out, his replacements have done so much better

This is one of those meltdown performances that suggests selection is irrelevant - something very fundamental went very very wrong somewhere. Preparation, scandal, a huge bust up... This sort of thing usually has a cause

They looked well up for it before kick off, just unbelievable.

Re your other point, yes, no team keeps going line NZ

[Torquemada 1420]

This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...

This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)

You only scored 3

[Big D]

A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.

[Slick]

I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference

I don’t know, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a capitulation like this from a tier 1 team

[Torquemada 1420]

A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.

To Aus?

[Big D]

A 6N or 4N team losing a ton should see heads roll but I guess Crowley is leaving anyway.

To Aus?

Not sure they've said. Just didn't renew his deal.

[sockwithaticket]

I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference

Don't agree with that. 50 or 60 can happen. We've seen tier 1 nations do that to each other on occasion, though usually with more points scored by the loser.

70 or 80 is beyond just being embarassed and drags you down into minnow tier 2 status. 90+ is unacceptable. It's a potential career breaker if only for what it can do to a player's psyche.

[sturginho]

This is a worse margin than the Namibia game...

This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)

You only scored 3

So we can consider this a success?

[Torquemada 1420]

I think every team has experienced a shellacking at the hands of the ABs at some point, after 50 it doesn't really make much difference

I don’t know, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a capitulation like this from a tier 1 team

France shipping 59 at home to the Aussies in 2010 was up there. And I was at that one too

[JM2K6]

Eddie Jones and Steve Borthwick seeing the score and thinking the All Blacks must have kicked it a thousand times

[Torquemada 1420]

This could be worse than 1999! (I forget the score, 101-7 I think)

You only scored 3

So we can consider this a success?

[Torquemada 1420]

Come back on?

[Blackmac]

Actually celebrating that.

[JM2K6]

Shame, really wanted to see the hundred, Carley missed an obvious seatbelt tackle on DMac.

[Torquemada 1420]

Actually celebrating that.

You couldn't make it up.

[Tichtheid]

Italy have played their part in a 17 try thriller