It's really bad 7s.
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Having played a fair bit of 7’a, as I’m sure a lot of us has, I do find it hard to be critical. Fucking awful sport
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I think you have every right to be critical. I watched all of the quarter finals and GB looked to be by some distance the worst prepared and coached team on display, especially given the quality of the players available to them. They were utterly clueless in both defence and attack and were unable to maintain any sort of structure to their play after more than one pass. The contrast between the GB USA game and the following game between France and Canada (an absolutely epic match) was like night and day.
Sure Ireland and China were thrashed, but they were playing NZ and Australia, the likely finalists, and they did at least look as if they'd played sevens before and knew what they should be doing.
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Olympic 7s has been around for a while now and whilst GB should get better, they've played better 7s in previous Olympics and will play better in the future.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:34 pmWe've had the exact same thing with the XVs, and oddly if given the the chance they'll get better at this too
That doesn't change the fact that they played really bad 7s rugby in the QF.
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Across the board, Wales, Scotland and England need a real think about whether 7s can continue as such an afterthought. We're letting down those who are taking it seriously, I'm not perhaps sold that suddenly means RL9s comes to the fore, nor even an abridged NFL model, but we're in a variety of ways not allowing access to better players that's clearly needed to do better.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:27 amOlympic 7s has been around for a while now and whilst GB should get better, they've played better 7s in previous Olympics and will play better in the future.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:34 pmWe've had the exact same thing with the XVs, and oddly if given the the chance they'll get better at this too
That doesn't change the fact that they played really bad 7s rugby in the QF.
I suspect the defence will be we cannot afford to more given the priority of paying wages in mens XVs, but we are choosing quite that level of priority
I was wrong. The stupidest thing is that two allegedly female boxers, previously banned from competing by the IBA after tests proved they were biological males are competing. Just watched the Algerian one batter the living shit out of a poor Mexican opponent.
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Wiffen with an amazing win in the pool this evening for Ireland. Superb.
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First bout is on Thursday. Lord knows why they decided this was a good idea.Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:29 pm I was wrong. The stupidest thing is that two allegedly female boxers, previously banned from competing by the IBA after tests proved they were biological males are competing. Just watched the Algerian one batter the living shit out of a poor Mexican opponent.
Zambia fielded a couple of males in their womens soccer team as well. At least it's less likely to actually cause a dangerous situation there.
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IOC don't recognise the IBA I believe.Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:29 pm I was wrong. The stupidest thing is that two allegedly female boxers, previously banned from competing by the IBA after tests proved they were biological males are competing. Just watched the Algerian one batter the living shit out of a poor Mexican opponent.
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If it hasn't been mentioned yet, it is fücking sweltering over here.
Yep, that seems to be it.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:01 pmIOC don't recognise the IBA I believe.Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:29 pm I was wrong. The stupidest thing is that two allegedly female boxers, previously banned from competing by the IBA after tests proved they were biological males are competing. Just watched the Algerian one batter the living shit out of a poor Mexican opponent.
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They unrecognised the IBA a few years ago for being useless corrupt fuckwits - which is a fair point.Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:44 pmYep, that seems to be it.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:01 pmIOC don't recognise the IBA I believe.Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:29 pm I was wrong. The stupidest thing is that two allegedly female boxers, previously banned from competing by the IBA after tests proved they were biological males are competing. Just watched the Algerian one batter the living shit out of a poor Mexican opponent.
However it's the IOC so it's useless corrupt fuckwith all the way down.
Surely he must have been one of the favourites? 800m and 1500m world champion, short course world record holder and was dominant in the U23 euros last year too.
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Without intending to start a political discussion, is there a generally accepted rule where individuals from NI represent Ireland and members of teams (rowing and hockey) represent GB or have a choice?
Or is it a case of sport dependant like how the IRFU covers the island?
Or is it a case of sport dependant like how the IRFU covers the island?
As I recall, athletes from NI can choose to compete for Ireland or for GB. Hence there were two NI swimmers who got gold medals yesterday - Wiffen in the 800m and Jack McMillan as part of the GB relay team.Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:28 am Without intending to start a political discussion, is there a generally accepted rule where individuals from NI represent Ireland and members of teams (rowing and hockey) represent GB or have a choice?
Or is it a case of sport dependant like how the IRFU covers the island?
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It depends and the status of the governing bodies is key. For example, if an Ulster player decided their wanted to play with team GB, they would be going into conflict with their employer, the IRFU.Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:28 am Without intending to start a political discussion, is there a generally accepted rule where individuals from NI represent Ireland and members of teams (rowing and hockey) represent GB or have a choice?
Or is it a case of sport dependant like how the IRFU covers the island?
Boxing is also an all island body and very well run so Belfast boxers would be harming their chances by competing with UK.
Hockey also all-island but Ireland are relatively weak and wouldn't have a realistic chance of medalling.
I wouldn't know too much re other sports but ultimately the Good Friday agreement is about the principle of a person's right to choose their own banner and identity. If somebody from NI wishes to exercise their right to compete with team GB, off they go but it will exercise yahoos on both sides.
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It's Ireland. It's in our nature to flop on the big stage.Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:23 amSurely he must have been one of the favourites? 800m and 1500m world champion, short course world record holder and was dominant in the U23 euros last year too.
Cheers. My wife is Northern Irish and she wasn't sure. She is from a fairly heavily protestant town but have a swimmer repping Ireland this year. She has qualified for her semi I think.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:40 amIt depends and the status of the governing bodies is key. For example, if an Ulster player decided their wanted to play with team GB, they would be going into conflict with their employer, the IRFU.Big D wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:28 am Without intending to start a political discussion, is there a generally accepted rule where individuals from NI represent Ireland and members of teams (rowing and hockey) represent GB or have a choice?
Or is it a case of sport dependant like how the IRFU covers the island?
Boxing is also an all island body and very well run so Belfast boxers would be harming their chances by competing with UK.
Hockey also all-island but Ireland are relatively weak and wouldn't have a realistic chance of medalling.
I wouldn't know too much re other sports but ultimately the Good Friday agreement is about the principle of a person's right to choose their own banner and identity. If somebody from NI wishes to exercise their right to compete with team GB, off thetly go but it will exercise yahoos on both sides.
He mightily impressive.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:44 amIt's Ireland. It's in our nature to flop on the big stage.