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Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:23 pm Worcester return to the championship next year. Congrats to their fans
I hope someone has done an in depth due diligence on their business plan
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What happened to the chancers who bought it and ran it down?

I'm guessing bugger all.
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Saints have signed Italian loosehead Danilo Fischetti
I guess they probably need an additional experienced loosehead.
Shame they've released young Tarek Haffar. Thought he was a very promising prospect.
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SaintK wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 3:10 pm Saints have signed Italian loosehead Danilo Fischetti
I guess they probably need an additional experienced loosehead.
Shame they've released young Tarek Haffar. Thought he was a very promising prospect.
You say released, but rumour is Tigers have thrown a shitload of money at him.
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Oxbow wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 3:17 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 3:10 pm Saints have signed Italian loosehead Danilo Fischetti
I guess they probably need an additional experienced loosehead.
Shame they've released young Tarek Haffar. Thought he was a very promising prospect.
You say released, but rumour is Tigers have thrown a shitload of money at him.
Aaaah! Hadn't heard that. Happy for him to stay in the Prem even with the "enemy" as I think he is a potential England prospect
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Watched a bit of England U18 v Scotland in the U18 tournament in France. Some decent prospects on show.
England won 71-5, could have ebeen worse as they were 47-0 up at half time
Italy beat Georgia 37-24
France beat Spain 36-12
Wales beat Ireland 32-24
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SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 am Watched a bit of England U18 v Scotland in the U18 tournament in France. Some decent prospects on show.
England won 71-5, could have ebeen worse as they were 47-0 up at half time
Italy beat Georgia 37-24
France beat Spain 36-12
Wales beat Ireland 32-24


Care to predict how many of those England u18s will play for Scotland one day?
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Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:36 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 am Watched a bit of England U18 v Scotland in the U18 tournament in France. Some decent prospects on show.
England won 71-5, could have ebeen worse as they were 47-0 up at half time
Italy beat Georgia 37-24
France beat Spain 36-12
Wales beat Ireland 32-24


Care to predict how many of those England u18s will play for Scotland one day?
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere
England U18: 15. James Pater 14. Junior Denny 13. Victor Worsnip 12. Will Knight CAPTAIN 11. Charlie Tamani 10. Oscar Talbot 9. Isaac Mears 1. Alan Poku 2. Kealan Freeman-Price 3. Harry Wright 4. Freddie Ogden-Metherell 5. Henry Laidlow 6. Elliot Williams 7. Jack Lewis 8. George Marsh

Replacements: 16. Jerold Gorleku 17. Oliver Spencer 18. Sam Bland 19. Archie Appleby 20. Tate Williams 21. Matthew Branch-Holland 22. James Townsend 23. Hugh Shields 24. Declan Treacey 25. Henry Lumley 26. Zac Finch
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Charlie Tamani is a Saints lad, he's supposed to have something special about him.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:56 am
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:36 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 am Watched a bit of England U18 v Scotland in the U18 tournament in France. Some decent prospects on show.
England won 71-5, could have ebeen worse as they were 47-0 up at half time
Italy beat Georgia 37-24
France beat Spain 36-12
Wales beat Ireland 32-24


Care to predict how many of those England u18s will play for Scotland one day?
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere
England U18: 15. James Pater 14. Junior Denny 13. Victor Worsnip 12. Will Knight CAPTAIN 11. Charlie Tamani 10. Oscar Talbot 9. Isaac Mears 1. Alan Poku 2. Kealan Freeman-Price 3. Harry Wright 4. Freddie Ogden-Metherell 5. Henry Laidlow 6. Elliot Williams 7. Jack Lewis 8. George Marsh

Replacements: 16. Jerold Gorleku 17. Oliver Spencer 18. Sam Bland 19. Archie Appleby 20. Tate Williams 21. Matthew Branch-Holland 22. James Townsend 23. Hugh Shields 24. Declan Treacey 25. Henry Lumley 26. Zac Finch

It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
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Oxbow wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:22 pm Charlie Tamani is a Saints lad, he's supposed to have something special about him.
He scored a couple of tries.
There are 6 Saints lads in the wider squad. As there should be having won the Academy Championship so convincingly
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:56 am
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:36 am



Care to predict how many of those England u18s will play for Scotland one day?
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere
England U18: 15. James Pater 14. Junior Denny 13. Victor Worsnip 12. Will Knight CAPTAIN 11. Charlie Tamani 10. Oscar Talbot 9. Isaac Mears 1. Alan Poku 2. Kealan Freeman-Price 3. Harry Wright 4. Freddie Ogden-Metherell 5. Henry Laidlow 6. Elliot Williams 7. Jack Lewis 8. George Marsh

Replacements: 16. Jerold Gorleku 17. Oliver Spencer 18. Sam Bland 19. Archie Appleby 20. Tate Williams 21. Matthew Branch-Holland 22. James Townsend 23. Hugh Shields 24. Declan Treacey 25. Henry Lumley 26. Zac Finch

It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
...especially when the last senior England team had four Scots on board.
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charltom wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:56 am
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere

It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
...especially when the last senior England team had four Scots on board.
Which four ? I don’t know too much about current players heritage for England, just Scotland being saffa B team
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Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:53 pm
charltom wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:43 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm


It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
...especially when the last senior England team had four Scots on board.
Which four ? I don’t know too much about current players heritage for England, just Scotland being saffa B team
I know they claim Rodd, Dingwall and F.Smith. Vaguely recall something about Roebuck being Scottish qualified.
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Henry Pollock would be the fourth
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:22 pm
Yeeb wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:53 pm
charltom wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:43 pm

...especially when the last senior England team had four Scots on board.
Which four ? I don’t know too much about current players heritage for England, just Scotland being saffa B team
I know they claim Rodd, Dingwall and F.Smith. Vaguely recall something about Roebuck being Scottish qualified.


Bad teeth and diabetes qualifies you as Scottish as well.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:56 am
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:36 am



Care to predict how many of those England u18s will play for Scotland one day?
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere
England U18: 15. James Pater 14. Junior Denny 13. Victor Worsnip 12. Will Knight CAPTAIN 11. Charlie Tamani 10. Oscar Talbot 9. Isaac Mears 1. Alan Poku 2. Kealan Freeman-Price 3. Harry Wright 4. Freddie Ogden-Metherell 5. Henry Laidlow 6. Elliot Williams 7. Jack Lewis 8. George Marsh

Replacements: 16. Jerold Gorleku 17. Oliver Spencer 18. Sam Bland 19. Archie Appleby 20. Tate Williams 21. Matthew Branch-Holland 22. James Townsend 23. Hugh Shields 24. Declan Treacey 25. Henry Lumley 26. Zac Finch

It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
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Slick wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:23 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:56 am
Not too many Scottish sounding names but I bet there some with Scottish granparents in there somewhere

It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
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geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:23 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm


It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
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geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:23 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:27 pm


It's a bit sad that this guy seems to spend every waking minute obsessing over the Scottish diaspora.
To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:23 pm

To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
True enough, I remember a Hope-Dunbar from my youth
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Some of the worst snobs I've ever met were Scots.
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Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:08 pm Some of the worst snobs I've ever met were Scots.

Well, they've certainly left a lasting impression on you since you appear to be replaying the encounters constantly in your mind.

It's not healthy way to go about your day to day.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:52 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:08 pm Some of the worst snobs I've ever met were Scots.

Well, they've certainly left a lasting impression on you since you appear to be replaying the encounters constantly in your mind.

It's not healthy way to go about your day to day.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:23 pm

To be fair, surname like "Pater" is just wasted in England, so we'll have him. Also Henry Laidlow and Hugh Shields. Not interested in an Oscar Appleby or Lumley and a Branch-Holland or Ogden-Metherell will not fit in.
Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
I went to Edinburgh Uni and there was a few of those types around. They tended to possess English levels of cuntishness as well, if you can believe it.
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robmatic wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm

Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
I went to Edinburgh Uni and there was a few of those types around. They tended to possess English levels of cuntishness as well, if you can believe it.
Floppy hair and cricket jumpers?
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:09 pm
robmatic wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm

Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
I went to Edinburgh Uni and there was a few of those types around. They tended to possess English levels of cuntishness as well, if you can believe it.
Floppy hair and cricket jumpers?
There was some of that behaviour, yes.
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robmatic wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm
geordie_6 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:33 pm

Only thing double barrelled in Scotland are the gamekeepers shotguns.
Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
I went to Edinburgh Uni and there was a few of those types around. They tended to possess English levels of cuntishness as well, if you can believe it.
Steady on old chap, at least they were our cunts
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:09 pm
robmatic wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:14 pm

Oh come on we’ve surely all met a Sloaney Caledonian Club type with a double barrelled name who has a father that employs said gamekeeper, and an ancestor who was tragically struck down with tummy ache the morning of Culloden
I went to Edinburgh Uni and there was a few of those types around. They tended to possess English levels of cuntishness as well, if you can believe it.
Floppy hair and cricket jumpers?
Oh come now I get asked regularly by Mrs PB and her friends to borrow my exceptionally stylish and comfortable cricket jumpers*, please leave them out of this


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SaintK wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:52 am Watched a bit of England U18 v Scotland in the U18 tournament in France. Some decent prospects on show.
England won 71-5, could have ebeen worse as they were 47-0 up at half time
Italy beat Georgia 37-24
France beat Spain 36-12
Wales beat Ireland 32-24
Spain more competetive than Scotland 12-12 at halftime, England pulled away to win 43-19
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The basis for Steve Diamond's latest sideline ban

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sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:05 pm The basis for Steve Diamond's latest sideline ban

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What's the problem with that ?

I mean; "I hope you chaps can sleep tonight ?", is hardly an actionable question, is it ? :mrgreen:
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:06 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:05 pm The basis for Steve Diamond's latest sideline ban

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What's the problem with that ?

I mean; "I hope you chaps can sleep tonight ?", is hardly an actionable question, is it ? :mrgreen:
Diamond is one of those characters who could make “Good morning” sound like a threat
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duke wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:07 am
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:06 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:05 pm The basis for Steve Diamond's latest sideline ban

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What's the problem with that ?

I mean; "I hope you chaps can sleep tonight ?", is hardly an actionable question, is it ? :mrgreen:
Diamond is one of those characters who could make “Good morning” sound like a threat
Still mad shite that he bothered to seek out Squidge rugby's mobile number, rings him up and goes full mental over a throwaway joke online.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... n-rfu-cvc/

Can't copy the article on my phone, but proposing some significant changes.
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Well something needs to happen. I'm not sure the current admin have it within them to come up with anything worthwhile or workable, but the game is not in rude health. It cannot sustain a second tier as vibrant as the ProD2, which is what's needed if we're going to persist with the idea of promotion and relegation. The Premiership desperately needs to get back up to 12 teams asap.
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lemonhead wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:15 am
duke wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:07 am
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:06 pm

What's the problem with that ?

I mean; "I hope you chaps can sleep tonight ?", is hardly an actionable question, is it ? :mrgreen:
Diamond is one of those characters who could make “Good morning” sound like a threat
Still mad shite that he bothered to seek out Squidge rugby's mobile number, rings him up and goes full mental over a throwaway joke online.
To be fair to Dimes, we've all felt like that about Squidge from time to time.
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geordie_6 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:00 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... n-rfu-cvc/

Can't copy the article on my phone, but proposing some significant changes.
Behind paywall
Some interesting ideas in there. Going to struggle to get complete buy-in and agreement from all the different vested interests
https://archive.ph/50IpE
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