The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Slick]

FFS

[Tichtheid]

Head shot, taking players way beyond the ruck, tackles off the ball

[Deveron Boy]

Good win! Not like Scotland to actually hang on

[Big D]

Good defensive stand at the end.

[Biffer]

Yaaaaaasssssssssss

Terrific win that, particularly with no regular test starters. Hastings was normal Hastings, apart from that the backs were excellent, front row wood up really well which is encouraging, thought Masibaka looked good too. Lot of positives to take from that not least our first ever win v the Māori in NZ

[Tichtheid]

TF for that

[Gumboot]

Well played Scotland, deserved winners!

[Tichtheid]

Masibaka looks like a player, that’s the first time I’ve seen him

[Gumboot]

Good defensive stand at the end.

Yep, very good D.

[Guy Smiley]

Well played Scotland, deserved winners!

Yup. Sparkling play. Entertained all the way

[Slick]

Masibaka looks like a player, that’s the first time I’ve seen him

Had a shocking first 15/20 minutes (including the yellow) then really grew into it

[Biffer]

So let’s give it an hour and see why Tom English thought it was dreadful.

[dkm57]

Phew worth getting up for. Number of cheap shots and tackles off the ball by the Maori was typical Kiwi. Great defence by our lads though.

[Slick]

Christie looked great then understandably faded a bit, Turner was very good and Bayliss.

Yet more evidence that Hutchinson has pissed on Townsends shows at some point, class as always

[Tichtheid]

Christie looked great then understandably faded a bit, Turner was very good and Bayliss.

Yet more evidence that Hutchinson has pissed on Townsends shows at some point, class as always

To be honest I thought Turner was 50/50 good and poor - his first throws were shocking and running into players instead of space or soft shoulders is so old now, plus he got isolated

[Biffer]

I was expecting the pack to struggle in the scrum today. Impressed that they more than held their own.

[Biffer]

Ali Price signed for Montpellier yesterday, I missed that.

[GrahamWa]

Thought Hutchinson was anonymous until I noticed his gash cross field kick.

[Big D]

Christie looked great then understandably faded a bit, Turner was very good and Bayliss.

Yet more evidence that Hutchinson has pissed on Townsends shows at some point, class as always

To be honest I thought Turner was 50/50 good and poor - his first throws were shocking and running into players instead of space or soft shoulders is so old now, plus he got isolated

Yeah, not sure he deserves to be in the 23 ahead of PH next week. Ph had a beauty of a throw to the tail early in the second half over two pods of opposition lifters.

[Kiwias]

Well played Scotland, deserved winners!

They played an entertaining style of rugby.

[Blackmac]

Quite a few cheap shots and off the ball hits from the Māori

Recorded it and just watched it. Decent win, great game, but I'm astonished that no is talking about the appalling stamp on Smith's face. It's 07mins and 10 seconds into the game.

[Slick]

Thought Hutchinson was anonymous until I noticed his gash cross field kick.

It was early, and I seem to have got Turner wrong, but I thought Hutch had some lovely touches throughout the game

[Yr Alban]

I wasn’t able to watch the game, but that’s an encouraging result. Especially when you consider how raw our forwards were in particular, and that the Maori recently spanked Japan (who of course just beat Wales). Well done, lads.

[dpedin]

Quite a few cheap shots and off the ball hits from the Māori

Recorded it and just watched it. Decent win, great game, but I'm astonished that no is talking about the appalling stamp on Smith's face. It's 07mins and 10 seconds into the game.

Didnt see that first time round just saw Smith rubbing his napper after the breakdown. It looked a deliberate stamp to the head to me and pretty dangerous. Must result in a citing and some punishment?

Overall a good result and excellent performance. Lots of new faces and new combinations yet they looked pretty organized and played well. Lots of good performances and given this was a 2nd/3rd string pretty impressive against the Maori in their own backyard.

[topofthemoon]

[Big D]

Great defensive work by Hansen and Cummings.

[Jock42]

Lacking power going forward i thought. A lovely kicking game was the difference

[Blackmac]

Cummings was superb today. Possibly his best international performance. Definitely pushed himself up the 2nd row order as Ryan was poor and Bierne was appalling.

Anyone questioning what Huwipoloto offer over the Irish centres or a mix, seriously has no clue.
At the moment is see 4 Scottish backs and hopefully white will get a chance to prove his worth in the 23.
Schoeman has been really solid but is definitely 3rd in line.

[Yr Alban]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

[Tichtheid]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

Aye, but it's only fuckwits that are bothered about it

[Yr Alban]

Cummings was superb today. Possibly his best international performance. Definitely pushed himself up the 2nd row order as Ryan was poor and Bierne was appalling.

Anyone questioning what Huwipoloto offer over the Irish centres or a mix, seriously has no clue.
At the moment is see 4 Scottish backs and hopefully white will get a chance to prove his worth in the 23.
Schoeman has been really solid but is definitely 3rd in line.

Such a shame for Zander. Apart from the fact I think he was the only Scot to tour last time and not get a Test cap, the THP position is wide open right now, and we might have seen a starting XV with 5 Scotland players in it. Not sure if that would have been an all-time record for a Test match?

[Tichtheid]

Cummings was superb today. Possibly his best international performance. Definitely pushed himself up the 2nd row order as Ryan was poor and Bierne was appalling.

Anyone questioning what Huwipoloto offer over the Irish centres or a mix, seriously has no clue.
At the moment is see 4 Scottish backs and hopefully white will get a chance to prove his worth in the 23.
Schoeman has been really solid but is definitely 3rd in line.

Such a shame for Zander. Apart from the fact I think he was the only Scot to tour last time and not get a Test cap, the THP position is wide open right now, and we might have seen a starting XV with 5 Scotland players in it. Not sure if that would have been an all-time record for a Test match?

It took me a couple of minutes to find it, but 1989 - first test had Hastings, Chalmers, Sole, White and Calder (capt)

[Slick]

Cummings was superb today. Possibly his best international performance. Definitely pushed himself up the 2nd row order as Ryan was poor and Bierne was appalling.

Anyone questioning what Huwipoloto offer over the Irish centres or a mix, seriously has no clue.
At the moment is see 4 Scottish backs and hopefully white will get a chance to prove his worth in the 23.
Schoeman has been really solid but is definitely 3rd in line.

Such a shame for Zander. Apart from the fact I think he was the only Scot to tour last time and not get a Test cap, the THP position is wide open right now, and we might have seen a starting XV with 5 Scotland players in it. Not sure if that would have been an all-time record for a Test match?

It took me a couple of minutes to find it, but 1989 - first test had Hastings, Chalmers, Sole, White and Calder (capt)

That reminds me, still have to listen to the Calder podcast

[Big D]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

Roebuck is English educated and English trained. He was in England from at eldest the age of 5.

He's only comparable in that he was born outside England but in all other comparators it's completely different.

He is a closer equivalent to John Barclay. I don't recall Barclay being called foreign born often if at all.

[Tichtheid]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

Roebuck is English educated and English trained. He was in England from at eldest the age of 5.

He's only comparable in that he was born outside England but in all other comparators it's completely different.

He is a closer equivalent to John Barclay. I don't recall Barclay being called foreign born often if at all.

Whilst I haven’t seen him named as such, I’ve seen numbers of foreign born players in world cup squads which only add up if you count Barclay.

My favourite on this topic was some eedjit on the Guardian comments section talking about Alex Corbisiero being born in the United States blah blah blah. Then Corbs’ dad showed up in the comments section and told the guy just how English Corbs was

[Yr Alban]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

Roebuck is English educated and English trained. He was in England from at eldest the age of 5.

He's only comparable in that he was born outside England but in all other comparators it's completely different.

He is a closer equivalent to John Barclay. I don't recall Barclay being called foreign born often if at all.

Oh, I’m aware of all this. But when we get shite thrown at us, it’s generally for the number of ‘foreign’ born players (happens every RWC) and nobody cares about heritage. Barclay was never described as such as an individual but was certainly included collectively.

[Big D]

I see that Scottish-born Tom Roebuck has scored twice for England against Argentina.

(This is meant as TIC. He’s qualified for England and absolutely entitled to represent them if he wants. It just frustrates me that we get shit for fielding the likes of Duhan and Steyn, whereas nobody will ever describe Roebuck as ‘foreign born’.)

Roebuck is English educated and English trained. He was in England from at eldest the age of 5.

He's only comparable in that he was born outside England but in all other comparators it's completely different.

He is a closer equivalent to John Barclay. I don't recall Barclay being called foreign born often if at all.

Oh, I’m aware of all this. But when we get shite thrown at us, it’s generally for the number of ‘foreign’ born players (happens every RWC) and nobody cares about heritage. Barclay was never described as such as an individual but was certainly included collectively.

Yes but it's generally the Saffer, Kiwi, English etc born, raised and "rugby educated" that draw these articles and then the likes of Barclay is included for completeness. Commentators would talk about Tuilagi being Samoan born and his Samoan heritage. It's not like they completely ignore the other foreign born players when commentating.

It is practically impossible for us to have an exclusively homegrown team but if we had there'd have been very little noise about a Barclay or a Ryan Grant (although he was educated in KL) other than a side note in commentary.

[Tichtheid]

Australia beat Fiji 21-18 at home in Newcastle.

I think we can expect a tough game next week against the Fijians.