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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:49 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:47 pm Nice game to watch for a neutral.

How about this for an idea, any kick that is caught uncontested then it is a scrum or even a free kick back to where it was kicked?
It really is.

Maybe if you exclude kicks from inside the 22. A clearance kick isn't necessarily meant to be contestible and you'd be robbing teams of a legitimate pressure release .
Mark from anywhere was a law until, I think, the 60s? (A hold over by AFL?) Must have slowed the game down a lot, hence the change.
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I've just read that Mike Brown is leaving Harlequins to join Newcastle.

:???:
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:26 pm I've just read that Mike Brown is leaving Harlequins to join Newcastle.

:???:
Good on him. Deserves to finish his career playing for a team that will be in the mix challenging for silverware.
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Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:35 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:26 pm I've just read that Mike Brown is leaving Harlequins to join Newcastle.

:???:
Good on him. Deserves to finish his career playing for a team that will be in the mix challenging for silverware.


Nicely done :clap:
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Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:05 pm Corner definitely the option in the end, although he didn't miss by much.

Never mind

Edit - and now they go and show that the Brown try shouldn't have stood. Frustrating.
Yeah, heard about that. Mind you, we ended up losing thanks to a properly obscene decision to just let Irish pile in from the side after Morris pulled off a brilliant catch on a kick chase, so I'm pretty bitter about the last score myself (and Lang getting twatted in the head). Definitely can't claim we deserved to win or that it was some mockery of refereeing or anything, though.

Quins were pretty bad as a team, some good individual displays but some soft shite and again a heap of brainless penalties. Frustrating.
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Don't deserve to win game if you concede a pen at every scrum really.

Onwards and upwards
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Over the weekend, Rugby Pass were confirming that Alex Sanderson to Sale as DoR was a done deal
No other rugby news outlet confirming!
Anyone?
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Champions Cup and Challenge Cup postponed! Reckon they should knock it on the head this year and concentrate on trying to finish the respective league comps
European rugby organisers have confirmed that the Heineken Champions Cup and Challenge Cups have been temporarily suspended.
It comes after the French government decreed its clubs should not play in the competitions this month.
As a result, European Professional Club Rugby (EPCR) says it had "no choice" but to postpone all matches scheduled for the weekends of 16 and 23 January.
However, EPCR aims to resume the tournaments "as soon as practicable".
Tournament chiefs hope two rounds of Heineken Champions Cup and Challenge Cup pool games on the weekends of 15-17 and 22-24 can go ahead at a later date as authorities deal with the impact of a new strain of Covid-19.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55617958
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Not a surprise at all. Hoping they bring forward a few GP games to fill the void and potentially keep a little wiggle room later in the season.
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Two week circuit break announced, with GP games not being brought forward for player welfare etc.

Can understand it I guess, but a bit crap for LI as we'll have played 1 game in 5 weeks. Think I just selfishly want something to watch as having rugby on has made this lockdown a little more bearable.
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The European Cups have been pointless this year anyway
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They're saying the fixtures are delayed though, not cancelled, so surely you're just lengthening the season if you don't play other games now?
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SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:20 am Over the weekend, Rugby Pass were confirming that Alex Sanderson to Sale as DoR was a done deal
No other rugby news outlet confirming!
Anyone?


Saracens still dominating the Premiership even without being in it!

Quins, Leicester and Sale all with ex-Saracens Head coaches. How many loan players out there - 10 maybe?

Good year to miss though to be fair!
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Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:41 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:20 am Over the weekend, Rugby Pass were confirming that Alex Sanderson to Sale as DoR was a done deal
No other rugby news outlet confirming!
Anyone?


Saracens still dominating the Premiership even without being in it!

Quins, Leicester and Sale all with ex-Saracens Head coaches. How many loan players out there - 10 maybe?

Good year to miss though to be fair!
Er...
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Kawazaki wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:41 pm
SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:20 am Over the weekend, Rugby Pass were confirming that Alex Sanderson to Sale as DoR was a done deal
No other rugby news outlet confirming!
Anyone?


Saracens still dominating the Premiership even without being in it!

Quins, Leicester and Sale all with ex-Saracens Head coaches. How many loan players out there - 10 maybe?

Good year to miss though to be fair!
Yes and look how well they're doing :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Another Saracens scrum half jumps. Always thought he was more then useful!
Bristol Bears have signed English scrum half Tom Whiteley from Saracens ahead of the 2021/22 campaign.
The 25-year-old has put pen to paper on a two-year deal with the club.
Whiteley has made 49 appearances for former Premiership champions Saracens, scoring 91 points.
During his time at the club he captained Saracens Storm, the club's second team, to the 2018/19 Premiership Rugby Shield title as well as well the Premiership Rugby Cup final in the same season and has played for the highly successful outfit in the Premiership and Heineken Champions Cup.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:06 am Another Saracens scrum half jumps. Always thought he was more then useful!
Bristol Bears have signed English scrum half Tom Whiteley from Saracens ahead of the 2021/22 campaign.
The 25-year-old has put pen to paper on a two-year deal with the club.
Whiteley has made 49 appearances for former Premiership champions Saracens, scoring 91 points.
During his time at the club he captained Saracens Storm, the club's second team, to the 2018/19 Premiership Rugby Shield title as well as well the Premiership Rugby Cup final in the same season and has played for the highly successful outfit in the Premiership and Heineken Champions Cup.
Someone must be leaving Bristol then. Randall and Uren have been duelling for first choice (the former seems to be edging that battle this season) with Cook firmly third.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:13 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:06 am Another Saracens scrum half jumps. Always thought he was more then useful!
Bristol Bears have signed English scrum half Tom Whiteley from Saracens ahead of the 2021/22 campaign.
The 25-year-old has put pen to paper on a two-year deal with the club.
Whiteley has made 49 appearances for former Premiership champions Saracens, scoring 91 points.
During his time at the club he captained Saracens Storm, the club's second team, to the 2018/19 Premiership Rugby Shield title as well as well the Premiership Rugby Cup final in the same season and has played for the highly successful outfit in the Premiership and Heineken Champions Cup.
Someone must be leaving Bristol then. Randall and Uren have been duelling for first choice (the former seems to be edging that battle this season) with Cook firmly third.
Has Cook played this season? I'd certainly have Whiteley way ahead of him
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SaintK wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:50 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:13 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:06 am Another Saracens scrum half jumps. Always thought he was more then useful!
Someone must be leaving Bristol then. Randall and Uren have been duelling for first choice (the former seems to be edging that battle this season) with Cook firmly third.
Has Cook played this season? I'd certainly have Whiteley way ahead of him
Not that I've seen.

I'd suspect Uren might be the one to move. At 25 I doubt Whitely would be looking to come in too far down the depth chart and Uren might not be happy at apparently slipping behind Randall.

I wouldn't pay Cook to play rugby.
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Two weeks for Sinkler. Misses the first 6N match
Kyle Sinckler will miss England’s opening Six Nations match against Scotland after receiving a two-week ban for failing to respect the authority of the match official.
Sinckler appeared before an online independent disciplinary panel after being cited for the incident which took place in Bristol’s Gallagher Premiership victory over Exeter on Saturday.

Sinckler contested the charge but it was upheld and he is free to play again on 9 February, making him available for the Six Nations round-two fixture against Italy at Twickenham.

“The panel found that as his actions disrespected the authority of the referee it was in breach of a core value of rugby - respect of match officials – and warranted a red card. The panel determined that in all the circumstances it was a low entry point with no relevant mitigation. The sanction is a two-week ban.”
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Called it at the time - right call and good balls on the committee
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:26 pm Called it at the time - right call and good balls on the committee
Yep, good call. Tackle could have been a leg breaker mind you
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Exciting Quins transfer news! James Lang and Glen Young off to Edinburgh Rugby at the end of the season. Makes sense as Lang is a Scotland squad player so 100% availability for Tests as opposed to the restrictions of the Premiership makes sense. I suspect Young harbours Scottish cap ambitions.

Nonsense rumour - Anthony Watson to move from Bath's injury room to ours.
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SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:20 am Over the weekend, Rugby Pass were confirming that Alex Sanderson to Sale as DoR was a done deal
No other rugby news outlet confirming!
Anyone?
Sanderson to Sale as DoR confirmed. First match in charge v Tigers 30th January which will be tasty!
Could be the best signing Sale have made in a long time
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Assume I’m in a minority watching Sarries Ealing.
Stream is decent quality and Ealing have started very well in what I assume is them auditioning for a 14 team Prem
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Sarries up by a point at half time, holding out on the line before the break. Entertaining game
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:10 pm Assume I’m in a minority watching Sarries Ealing.
Stream is decent quality and Ealing have started very well in what I assume is them auditioning for a 14 team Prem
You got a stream link, I've been looking for one
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:10 pm Assume I’m in a minority watching Sarries Ealing.
Stream is decent quality and Ealing have started very well in what I assume is them auditioning for a 14 team Prem
u paid 9 quids for it?
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stemoc wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:50 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:10 pm Assume I’m in a minority watching Sarries Ealing.
Stream is decent quality and Ealing have started very well in what I assume is them auditioning for a 14 team Prem
u paid 9 quids for it?
Just found it. Yep £8.99 or free for season ticket holders
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I see that the RFU have agreed to a 28 man squad for the 6 Nations (France have named a 37 man squad).

Don’t know how that will affect selection, at a guess I think Eddie will divide the squad like the following:

4 props
3 hookers
4 locks
5 backrow
2 SH
2 FH
3 centres
5 back three
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SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:55 pm
stemoc wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:50 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:10 pm Assume I’m in a minority watching Sarries Ealing.
Stream is decent quality and Ealing have started very well in what I assume is them auditioning for a 14 team Prem
u paid 9 quids for it?
Just found it. Yep £8.99 or free for season ticket holders
Sarries home games are free. £8.99 isn’t bad value IMHO
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:58 pm
SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:55 pm
stemoc wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:50 pm

u paid 9 quids for it?
Just found it. Yep £8.99 or free for season ticket holders
Sarries home games are free. £8.99 isn’t bad value IMHO
Don't disagree, shame I didn't find it earlier!
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Hells Bells wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:56 pm I see that the RFU have agreed to a 28 man squad for the 6 Nations (France have named a 37 man squad).

Don’t know how that will affect selection, at a guess I think Eddie will divide the squad like the following:

4 props
3 hookers
4 locks
5 backrow
2 SH
2 FH
3 centres
5 back three
Tough to say, given we have centres that can play on the wing etc. I do agree with your forwards though, maybe one extra backrow at the expense of someone else.
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Close finish coming up, anyone’s game
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Something weird with the timekeeping, ought to be another play.
Nevertheless Ealing good value for their win
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:46 pm Something weird with the timekeeping, ought to be another play.
Nevertheless Ealing good value for their win
Score
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SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:47 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:46 pm Something weird with the timekeeping, ought to be another play.
Nevertheless Ealing good value for their win
Score
27-26. Sarries scored with the last play
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:47 pm
SaintK wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:47 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:46 pm Something weird with the timekeeping, ought to be another play.
Nevertheless Ealing good value for their win
Score
27-26. Sarries scored with the last play
Thanks
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The Rugby Paper reporting that relegation is scrubbed for this season. Apparently 5 clubs presented legal advice to PRL that they didn't fancy challenging
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Can't see any alternative really. Would have got very messy legally if a club like Gloucester (who've received no 'covid points') was narrowly relegated
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