I commend NPR for not having a Harry and Meghan thread!!

[Punter15]

What would Harry's motive be for falsely accusing a member, or members of his family as racist?

To support his wife.

Because she told him to

[Openside]

Also came here to share this from another discussion on this topic ...

that is genius

[Chilli]

Fair enough, but still the opposite end of the spectrum than Megan.

Interesting that I always hear people describe Kate as classy. Even I do it, totally subconsciously.

Assfly I don’t even think that is true, Meghan had a pretty privileged upbringing too. Trips to Europe, privately educated, father had a well paid technical job in a film studio. I am not aware of how that translates to class in US but I imagine broadly similar??

My understanding is that the impetus behind Kate was mostly her mother who was actually originally of working class stock - from a mining family in county Durham. Her mother was incredibly ambitious and pulled herself out of the working class by marrying up, then started her own business in the late 80s which is where the family made its fortune. Her mother knew the ins and outs of the British class system and knew what it took to move up the ranks so to speak. When Kate was in a relationship with William (they met at St Andrews in the early 00s) it was like an extraordinarily long vetting process but Kate's parents fully supported her and helped her jump through all the hoops along the way. By the time they married William and "the Firm" could be entirely satisfied that he had someone who was going to be a good partner for him AND a good fit for Royal life.

Meghan endured no such trial and was essentially fast tracked into the royal family. She is a very attractive woman, wealthy and famous in her own right and I'm sure has many good qualities but she was not schooled in the ways of the British class system, the Royal family and such. Whilst she is I am sure a good match for Harry she just wasn't cut out for being in the Royal family itself.

Then she should have worked on it before getting into the Royal Family.

Instead she attention whores herself and blames everyone else.

[Glaston]

I did think WTF about her hair

[Torquemada 1420]

Is that the Queen and her mother? I'd be interested to know the context of that photo.

Indeed, for all we know someone has just asked who wants an ice cream?...

There are plenty of people who were pressurised into giving a Nazi salute (most of them well before it became obvious what a Nutbar Hitler was)

Fark off. Uncle was a hard on Nazi. Queen mummy was a full blown racist. Queenie was too young to know what she was being asked to do but the adults in the circle have no such excuse.

Maybe want to consider why Churchill sent (Blunt I think) to Berlin immediately at the war's end to find and destroy all evidence of the royal's links with the nazis whilst concurrently the royals were building pyres doing the same to evidence in Britain.

[Sandstorm]

It was a different time, Torq

[Rinkals]

This is the only subject where I am in agreement with Donald Trump: Harry needs all the luck he can get as I can't help but feel that it won't end well.

[FalseBayFC]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates. Oh and also I'm just as grateful that we are current RWC champions. These two things really help me get through the day.

[Paddington Bear]

Is that the Queen and her mother? I'd be interested to know the context of that photo.

Indeed, for all we know someone has just asked who wants an ice cream?...

There are plenty of people who were pressurised into giving a Nazi salute (most of them well before it became obvious what a Nutbar Hitler was)

Fark off. Uncle was a hard on Nazi. Queen mummy was a full blown racist. Queenie was too young to know what she was being asked to do but the adults in the circle have no such excuse.

Maybe want to consider why Churchill sent (Blunt I think) to Berlin immediately at the war's end to find and destroy all evidence of the royal's links with the nazis whilst concurrently the royals were building pyres doing the same to evidence in Britain.

Most establishment figures flirted with fascism in the 20s and early 30s, particularly given Mussolini's seeming early successes in Italy. It looks horrendous of course because of what we know now of course. I'd differentiate that from, say, Edward who never woke up from the delusion and had to be exiled to the Caribbean during the War.

[assfly]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates.

She's still the head of the Commonwealth, of which South Africa is rightfully part of.

Besides, when it comes to leadership, South Africa is hardly the standard bearer of good governance.

[FalseBayFC]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates.

She's still the head of the Commonwealth, of which South Africa is rightfully part of.

Besides, when it comes to leadership, South Africa is hardly the standard bearer of good governance.

The head of the Commonwealth secretary general is the head of the Commonwealth Secretariat. That evil crone no longer serves any function or position. I would rather be governed by Ace Magashule as dictator for life than have the Queen as our head of state.

[assfly]

The head of the Commonwealth secretary general is the head of the Commonwealth Secretariat. That evil crone no longer serves any function or position. I would rather be governed by Ace Magashule as dictator for life than have the Queen as our head of state.

The Queen is the head of the Commonwealth. The Secretary General of the Commonwealth is Patrica Scotland. The Commonwealth Secretariat is a body of the Commonwealth that runs the relationship between members. They are three different things.

Evil or not, she still serves an important function. Just out of curiosity, why do you describe her as evil?

[GogLais]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates. Oh and also I'm just as grateful that we are current RWC champions. These two things really help me get through the day.

These victims are grown-ups who are free to cast off the shackles of colonialism if they wish.

[Openside]

It was a different time, Torq

Quite, just about every Brit born before 1930 was a racist its what they were brought up with as normal ( that doesn't make it right)

[Openside]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates. Oh and also I'm just as grateful that we are current RWC champions. These two things really help me get through the day.

Is this muttonmongs South African iteration?

[FalseBayFC]

The head of the Commonwealth secretary general is the head of the Commonwealth Secretariat. That evil crone no longer serves any function or position. I would rather be governed by Ace Magashule as dictator for life than have the Queen as our head of state.

The Queen is the head of the Commonwealth. The Secretary General of the Commonwealth is Patrica Scotland. The Commonwealth Secretariat is a body of the Commonwealth that runs the relationship between members. They are three different things.

Evil or not, she still serves an important function. Just out of curiosity, why do you describe her as evil?

Her family accumulated wealth exactly the same way Jacob Zuma did. Theft and corruption. Her palaces were built by and paid for by poor people and conquest. In return those people got the square root of fuck all.

[assfly]

Her family accumulated wealth exactly the same way Jacob Zuma did. Theft and corruption. Her palaces were built by and paid for by poor people and conquest. In return those people got the square root of fuck all.

I see. For what it's worth, if it wasn't the British it would have been someone else. Doesn't make it right, but it's how I've come to deal with it.

[Torquemada 1420]

It was a different time, Torq

Quite, just about every Brit born before 1930 was a racist its what they were brought up with as normal ( that doesn't make it right)

There is a clear distinction to be had between racist attitudes (which is always subject to relativism) and those with clear Nazi ideologies ranging from rooting for their fellow Kraut in-laws to actively making plans to work alongside them in the event they should win to outright attempting to assist them to win.

[Insane_Homer]

[Sandstorm]

It was a different time, Torq

Quite, just about every Brit born before 1930 was a racist its what they were brought up with as normal ( that doesn't make it right)

There is a clear distinction to be had between racist attitudes (which is always subject to relativism) and those with clear Nazi ideologies ranging from rooting for their fellow Kraut in-laws to actively making plans to work alongside them in the event they should win to outright attempting to assist them to win.

Are we talking about the French now?

[tc27]

How much do you know about the customs of Tuvalu?

[Insane_Homer]

How much do you know about the customs of Tuvalu?

Customs
Import regulations:
Free import:
irrespective of age: 200 cigarettes or 225 grams of tobacco or cigars;

passengers of 18 years of age and older: 1 bottle of spirits and 1 bottle of wine, each not exceeding 1 liter.

Pets:
Cats and dogs must be accompanied by a veterinarian good health certificate and rabies inoculation certificate issued at the point of origin. Moreover, an import license is required (obtainable from the officer in charge of Agriculture-Vaitupu, Tuvalu), except for pets arriving from the Australian states of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania or from Fiji, New Zealand or the United Kingdom.

[Plato’sCave]

How much do you know about the customs of Tuvalu?

cultural norms eh

[Chrysoprase]

The real victims here are the Aussies and Kiwis and Canadians who are tarnished by association with this horrific family. I wake up every day feeling grateful that this hideous bitch is no longer our head of state, her with her foul brood of inbred ingrates. Oh and also I'm just as grateful that we are current RWC champions. These two things really help me get through the day.

Is this muttonmongs South African iteration?

He's a proven troll. This is the same poster that was blaming everyone else in the world for the SA government's inability to place a buy order for vaccines.

[Torquemada 1420]

[Lobby]

[assfly]

[Insane_Homer]

[Openside]

Apparently the new DG of the BBC has dumped the Mash report

[notfatcat]

Apparently the new DG of the BBC has dumped the Mash report

Well at least there is one person at the BBC who has a sense of humour.

[Blake]

Without being completely tasteless, the skin colour of Archie was never in doubt. Megan looks white ffs, and Harry is white. I'd like to think that the royal family know about mixing colours.

Reminds me of this...

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[Lobby]

Although I realise that Meghan's main aim in this interview was to relaunch herself in the US, I'm guessing they were hoping for a slightly better response than this in the UK



At the same time, the Queen’s net approval rating has gone up slightly since the interview

Positive: 80% (-)
Negative: 14% (-1)

[tc27]

Although I realise that Meghan's main aim in this interview was to relaunch herself in the US, I'm guessing they were hoping for a slightly better response than this in the UK



At the same time, the Queen’s net approval rating has gone up slightly since the interview

Positive: 80% (-)
Negative: 14% (-1)

The whole thing was aimed at US audiences with whom they need to remain high profile enough to earn a living off.

[Hugo]

Although I realise that Meghan's main aim in this interview was to relaunch herself in the US, I'm guessing they were hoping for a slightly better response than this in the UK



At the same time, the Queen’s net approval rating has gone up slightly since the interview

Positive: 80% (-)
Negative: 14% (-1)

The whole thing was aimed at US audiences with whom they need to remain high profile enough to earn a living off.

Yeah, they forsook UK popularity for the bigger US market.

I know they are always going to be able to carve out a living on their image/profile but I wonder how they are going to remain relevant? I just don't see what it is that they bring to the table that is different than what is already out there. Without Harry's royal bloodline they would be minor celebrities in LA circles, not A list superstars.

[JM2K6]

Although I realise that Meghan's main aim in this interview was to relaunch herself in the US, I'm guessing they were hoping for a slightly better response than this in the UK



At the same time, the Queen’s net approval rating has gone up slightly since the interview

Positive: 80% (-)
Negative: 14% (-1)

You can't divorce public opinion of the interview from the UK media coverage of the interview and issues raised. It's been an avalanche of anti-M&H / pro-Royalty pieces. Particularly as most people in the UK woke up to the coverage and opinion pieces, rather than watching it live.

[Mahoney]

Is she not going to return to acting?

What he does I have no idea. He seems to have cut himself off from everything that mattered to him in life prior to marriage.

[JM2K6]

The Netflix stuff is megabucks so money isn't going to be a problem. They'll probably end up doing a lot of charity / foundation work, by the sounds of things.

[Paddington Bear]

Although I realise that Meghan's main aim in this interview was to relaunch herself in the US, I'm guessing they were hoping for a slightly better response than this in the UK



At the same time, the Queen’s net approval rating has gone up slightly since the interview

Positive: 80% (-)
Negative: 14% (-1)

I honestly don't think they care. They've burned their bridges in the UK and know they won't get a fair hearing in the tabloids so what's the point? The money is in the US so appeal to your market (as the interview clearly did).

[GogLais]

The Netflix stuff is megabucks so money isn't going to be a problem. They'll probably end up doing a lot of charity / foundation work, by the sounds of things.

I dare say they'll coin it for a while but all they've got to sell is being ex-Royals. No doubt there'll be a book but they can only tell their story so many times before interest wanes.

[JM2K6]

The Netflix stuff is megabucks so money isn't going to be a problem. They'll probably end up doing a lot of charity / foundation work, by the sounds of things.

I dare say they'll coin it for a while but all they've got to sell is being ex-Royals. No doubt there'll be a book but they can only tell their story so many times before interest wanes.

Not really sure what that has to do with my reply tbh - the money's sorted, the work'll still be valid for years if that's the route they do go down.