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Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:29 pm
by Rinkals
You guys are talking as if we are facing Zimbabwe.

It doesn't look all that easy out there.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:00 pm
by Insane_Homer
101/2 Elgar goes. STUMPS

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:12 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Still Nelson left. Mountain to climb tomorrow. Sad we lost Elgar in the last over.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:03 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Rinkals wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:04 am
Rinkals wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:23 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:26 pm

Douglas Jardine recommends it!
You ARE allowed two fielders backward of square leg.

I am certainly not suggesting bodyline bowling, more bowling at the buttocks as a way of bringing in that mode of dismissal.

Just after I typed that, there were a couple of deliveries which found the edge down leg and went to fine leg for four. A leg slip might have been in business.
Cricinfo wrote:Pujara looking to get inside the line and defend it down, the bounce makes him lose control a bit and he feathers it down, where leg slip dives to his right and plucks out a great catch.
And you guys keep telling me I know fokkol about cricket. :grin: :grin:
I only saw this now. Rinkie you are our expert. :clap: :clap:

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:09 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Win or lose tomorrow, the Proteas are superb in this series.

Both teams are far below the Ashes teams still.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm
by Jb1981
Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
by Thommo
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:17 am
by Enzedder
Nah, Saffers are fine. Aussies are fine now that Ponting is history; Poms are fine. I don't think we bitch and moan all the time.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are just too fucking polite for words

India and Pakistan are the pits though - everyone is out to get them in their minds.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:30 am
by Jb1981
Thommo wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.
They are barking up the wrong tree about Super Sport surely. The article talks about Hawkeye being independent and relaying their info to the broadcaster.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:44 am
by Thommo
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:30 am
Thommo wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.
They are barking up the wrong tree about Super Sport surely. The article talks about Hawkeye being independent and relaying their info to the broadcaster.
Oh, 100%. It's India being India. They hated DRS when it was first brought in because they thought it would lead to cheating.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:21 am
by Calculon
Thommo wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.
South Africans have a history of using DRS to cheat? I can see why you post mainly on PR.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:34 am
by Enzedder
England win the toss and field. Pitch looks like a typical NZ one

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:37 am
by Jb1981
It’s doing a bit. England need to take advantage of this.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:00 am
by Jb1981
Warner goes for a long (22 ball) duck.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:07 am
by Rinkals
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:03 pm
Rinkals wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:04 am
Rinkals wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:23 pm

You ARE allowed two fielders backward of square leg.

I am certainly not suggesting bodyline bowling, more bowling at the buttocks as a way of bringing in that mode of dismissal.

Just after I typed that, there were a couple of deliveries which found the edge down leg and went to fine leg for four. A leg slip might have been in business.
Cricinfo wrote:Pujara looking to get inside the line and defend it down, the bounce makes him lose control a bit and he feathers it down, where leg slip dives to his right and plucks out a great catch.
And you guys keep telling me I know fokkol about cricket. :grin: :grin:
I only saw this now. Rinkie you are our expert. :clap: :clap:
Well, I notice that Elgar succumbed to that mode of dismissal, as well.

Despite Sunil claiming it was an 'unlucky' way to go, an awful lot of wickets have gone to it this series.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:17 am
by Jb1981
Smith for a duck too. Australia, maybe feeling the pressure of the dead rubber, fall to 3 down.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:36 am
by Happyhooker
Enjoyed getting up at stupid o'clock for this.

Pity we dropped labuschagne

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:04 am
by Rinkals
Thommo wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.
A history for what?

Are you complaining about the sandpaper incident?

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:05 am
by handyman
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
It's disgraceful. And it wasn't 1 or 2 comments, it was repeated comments and actions after the review.

It's India and Kohli tho, so probably just a slap on the wrist.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:27 am
by Jb1981
handyman wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:05 am
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
It's disgraceful. And it wasn't 1 or 2 comments, it was repeated comments and actions after the review.

It's India and Kohli tho, so probably just a slap on the wrist.
Is there a side with a bigger victim mentality in cricket?

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:37 am
by Jb1981
:lol: I missed this live but that is some dismissal.


Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:47 am
by OomStruisbaai
Calculon wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:21 am
Thommo wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:50 pm
Jb1981 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 pm Could a few of the Indian camp be in trouble after the game? I have just read about their accusations following the Elgar review - you can be unhappy but accusing the broadcaster of cheating is crossing a line.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-v ... ar-1296835
I was just reading that. Sounds like petulant India is back. Mind you, Saffas have a history of doing this sort of thing.
South Africans have a history of using DRS to cheat? I can see why you post mainly on PR.
Was hoping to get some Aussies over here. When it comes to cricket they are most arrogant cheats and pricks.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:19 am
by Torquemada 1420
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:17 am Smith for a duck too. Australia, maybe feeling the pressure of the dead rubber, fall to 3 down.
I wondered after having failed to press to 4-0 and keep alive the possibility of the whitewash, if there might be a loss of focus i.e. the opposite of pressure.

That said, normal service appears to have resumed after the wake up call.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:26 am
by Jb1981
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:19 am
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:17 am Smith for a duck too. Australia, maybe feeling the pressure of the dead rubber, fall to 3 down.
I wondered after having failed to press to 4-0 and keep alive the possibility of the whitewash, if there might be a loss of focus i.e. the opposite of pressure.

That said, normal service appears to have resumed after the wake up call.
Yeah, it was tongue in cheek about “pressure”. Travis Head certainly seems to revel in this type of situation though and taking the attack to the opposition.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:28 am
by Torquemada 1420
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:19 am
Jb1981 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:17 am Smith for a duck too. Australia, maybe feeling the pressure of the dead rubber, fall to 3 down.
I wondered after having failed to press to 4-0 and keep alive the possibility of the whitewash, if there might be a loss of focus i.e. the opposite of pressure.

That said, normal service appears to have resumed after the wake up call.
Yeah, it was tongue in cheek about “pressure”. Travis Head certainly seems to revel in this type of situation though and taking the attack to the opposition.
I was whooshed :oops:

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:36 am
by FalseBayFC
Fifty up for Keegan Petersen. He's doing very well in such a high pressure situation.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:45 am
by handyman
India bowling really well, SA lucky to not lose a wicket this morning.

Come on lads, fight through the first hour. Let's get a win for the good guys.

Target under 100.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:02 am
by OomStruisbaai
King Kohli not happy with Marais

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:14 am
by JM2K6
<comes in off the extra-long run-up to have a go at Mark Wood for being hugely overrated>

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:19 am
by handyman
Pujara drops Petersen. Massive moment in the game.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:22 am
by handyman
78 needed.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:27 am
by Thor Sedan
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:14 am <comes in off the extra-long run-up to have a go at Mark Wood for being hugely overrated>
I'm not sure there is a cricket ground in the world that could take the length of run up you are going to come in from.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:28 am
by FalseBayFC
67 needed now. Its good that they're attacking because aside from Pant and Petersen all the other batters have struggled. Can't afford to get bogged down.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 am
by Big D
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:14 am <comes in off the extra-long run-up to have a go at Mark Wood for being hugely overrated>
I don't think he is rated any higher than a quick, often inconsistent bowler to be fair. But the reality is they are down 2 quick fast bowlers in Archer and Stone so there are few alternatives for that role.

Overton probably deserved a run ahead of Woakes who is bang average away from home, and that is being kind. He has been statistically worse than Leach.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:39 am
by JM2K6
Big D wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:14 am <comes in off the extra-long run-up to have a go at Mark Wood for being hugely overrated>
I don't think he is rated any higher than a quick, often inconsistent bowler to be fair. But the reality is they are down 2 quick fast bowlers in Archer and Stone so there are few alternatives for that role.

Overton probably deserved a run ahead of Woakes who is bang average away from home, and that is being kind.
The (print and broadcast) media fucking love Mark Wood and they gush about him as if he's Dale Steyn or even Brett Lee. He's not. He's fast but shite. He offers nothing except pace. His current series figures are fucking dismal in a series where a genuine quick should be making hay. He's taken 8 wickets at over 45, with only the injured Stokes having a worse economy rate. And yet even a week ago there were puff pieces about him. Because he's a nice guy and a touch odd.

As I write this, he's being flogged by Green and I have to go have a meeting instead of watching more of this dismal shit.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:48 am
by OomStruisbaai
Paarliet deserve his ton.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:51 am
by handyman
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:48 am Paarliet deserve his ton.
Fok weet oom.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:52 am
by OomStruisbaai
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:48 am Paarliet deserve his ton.
My wicket :oops:

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:52 am
by Big D
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:39 am
Big D wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:14 am <comes in off the extra-long run-up to have a go at Mark Wood for being hugely overrated>
I don't think he is rated any higher than a quick, often inconsistent bowler to be fair. But the reality is they are down 2 quick fast bowlers in Archer and Stone so there are few alternatives for that role.

Overton probably deserved a run ahead of Woakes who is bang average away from home, and that is being kind.
The (print and broadcast) media fucking love Mark Wood and they gush about him as if he's Dale Steyn or even Brett Lee. He's not. He's fast but shite. He offers nothing except pace. His current series figures are fucking dismal in a series where a genuine quick should be making hay. He's taken 8 wickets at over 45, with only the injured Stokes having a worse economy rate. And yet even a week ago there were puff pieces about him. Because he's a nice guy and a touch odd.

As I write this, he's being flogged by Green and I have to go have a meeting instead of watching more of this dismal shit.
The media bumming up a mate is nothing new. If you are talking about being overrated by the media then I agree but I don't put too much weight on media opinions because they are often based on personal relationships. Sections of the media love players. Especially ones who do part time media work, or get them to help write their books etc. But you could lump almost all this England team in with him on that front especially Bairstow and Buttler. Up until now Woakes has a better economy rate by 0.1 runs per over across the series but he gets an easy ride too.

Wood is far too inconsistent and Root doesn't use his fast guys properly. Bowling short on this pitch is asking for trouble.

The media are far too cosy with this England team. Particularly the guys who have been around for a while.

Re: Ashes / Proteas vs India

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:08 am
by Big D
England trying to get their bowlers a rest here I think. Doesn't look that heavy at all.