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Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:36 pm**

Jamie Osborne finally puts a foot wrong in giving away a penalty, he looks the business for a just-turned 21 year old.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:38 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly

Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:49 pm**

Leinster are so good at everything, even being the cute hooers

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:52 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:36 pm Jamie Osborne finally puts a foot wrong in giving away a penalty, he looks the business for a just-turned 21 year old.

It was always expected of him, from how good he was at schools level; but being behind Henshaw was always a bit of an issue

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:56 pm**

Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:00 pm**

Some of the the attacking from Leinster was terrific, trying to pick who gets the pass is like trying to follow the ball under three cups from a sea - front magician

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:08 pm**

ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:56 pm Men v Boys, Leinster hardly had to break sweat.

It’ll need a very good team to be them in this competition though

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pm**

Cmaan Sharks

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:13 pm**

Not looking forward to the Saints game

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:14 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:38 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:33 pm Tuilagi ineffectual again, seems increasingly past it sadly
Can't recall when he last had a notable impact on a game.

Yeah cannot break tackles like he used to which leaves him very exposed given his lack of ball skills. Would be ballsy but Borthwick shouldn’t pick him

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:14 pm**

....and next lambs to the slaughter. Saints at Thomond Park

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:22 pm**

We already look shit, that's some feat after a couple of minutes.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm**

Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

That's because it's not a red.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:35 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there

Almost as desperate as the TMO to give the red

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:35 pm**

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 pm Ref is desperate not to give Saints a RC there
That's because it's not a red.

This

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:36 pm**

You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:38 pm**

URC teams look in a different league.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:44 pm**

Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:36 pm You think cold north. 30 degrees heat in a humid Durban is also a challenge

Give me shite British winter conditions over that any day.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:44 pm**

That's bad from O'Donoghue

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:45 pm**

Any Irish screaming for a red card for that one?

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm**

That deserves a long ban, that was absolutely deliberate, dirty cunt.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:44 pm That's bad from O'Donoghue

It's about as straightforward as can be. Shouldn't be any mitigation - always high, leading with the shoulder and so not making a legal tackle in the first place.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm**

FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:47 pm**

2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.

All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:51 pm**

Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:47 pm 2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line

Sharks playing against France blind school.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm**

Neither game worth watching really

*does not turn off tv*

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm**

Thomas scrumming the captain out of the game leads to a 3rd Sharks try

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:56 pm**

That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:46 pm FFS, if the previous one was a YC, why wasn't that one ?

There was a change in height, because he was being tackled.
Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14

I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:57 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:55 pm Neither game worth watching really

*does not turn off tv*

I know what you mean. It's the next pair of games I think will force me to do some work

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:58 pm**

Thomas having a blinder

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:59 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:51 pm
Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:47 pm 2nd try Sharks. Jayden causing havoc close to the line
Sharks playing against France blind school.

$harks backline is clueless on attack.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:00 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:56 pm That's the piss poor defence we've come to expect from Saints.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Ah cop on, there was no appreciable change by the time JOD made contact. Besides which, he made absolutely no attempt to get down to a regular tackle height, he was pretty much bolt upright and hitting up with his shoulder.
All I want is consistency, & remove the bullshit arbitrary mitigation, that has a ref depending on a TMO, or a replay that the TV may, or may not have.

Contact with the head == Red card, by which measure both sides would now be justifiably down to 14
I can get on board with that, I sort of preferred the early days of this new drive on head contact where everything was a red because it encouraged more caution from players and at the very least everyone knew what to expect.

That said, now that we do have mitigation frameworks, I can very much see why one was red and the other wasn't. On another day both might have been given, but where Haywood's had some room for debate, I just don't that O'Donoghue's does.

I think we just saw there, in that last bit of play, what JOD was trying to. Munster like to have the 2nd guy come in very upright to stop the offload, & rip the ball; the problem is if they get the timing wrong, you can get the kind of contact that happened.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm**

Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks

It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

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Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:03 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm
Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks
It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

]

Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:04 pm**

Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:10 pm**

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:04 pm Can we have Curtis Langdon now please?

Quite!!!!

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:10 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:03 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:01 pm
Sards wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 pmCmaan Sharks
It should be an easy win, Bordeaux sent a mix group, half are rookies or coming back from injuries.

Thursday’s practice

]
Hope the Sharks rip them apart. 60+

A bonus point win is all we need. Should qualify then for last 16
Remember Sharks sent a B team to the URC

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